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The first time you start an AM4 it can take up to a minute for the bios to initialize and do its job and test the memory sticks and all that. Usually it takes less time, maybe 10-30 seconds but it can take more.

If you keep turning off psu after a few seconds, it's never gonna finish. So maybe be patient.

 

Next, I'd minimize the configuration .... pull the motherboard out the case, put it on some cardboard box or something that's insulator (plastic for example), just in case there's something wrong with your case and shorts something on the back of your power supply.

Connect just the 24 pin and 8 pin cables from the power supply , install just one stick of ram in the furthest slot from the cpu, if possible install a speaker to the header (or use some headphones, place the jack across the speaker pins) and start the computer by shorting the two power on pins in the front panel connector with a screwdriver for a second

 

The motherboard may have debug leds somewhere ... wait and look at the leds and see if some led remains lit. The board should have the cpu fan spinning and should make a series of beeps in the speakers which tell you no video card is detected. If any, the vga led would light up.

 

The board may be stuck "training" those ddr4 sticks, unplug power supply, pull out battery, wait 5-10s, put battery back in.. your bios settings are reset.

 

Another way of seeing if the bios actually works is by plugging an old PS/2 keyboard ... if you can press num lock and flip the led on / off, that's a sign the bios has initialized enough and there's cpu working to handle keyboard interrupts and the keyboard receives commands from the bios, so your computer is not frozen.

 

 

You can buy an ancient pci-e video card for around 10-15$ and you can have that around to test if your video card is gone.

FOr example:  Windows 10 DUAL DVI MONITOR Video Card. 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E x16 Low Profile DELL | eBay

or this (but you need to buy a separate DMS-69 to 2 x dvi/vga) : Dell ATI Radeon PCI-E Dual Video Low Profile Graphics Card HD2400 102B2670201 | eBay

 

Considering how much you paid for all those parts, 10-15$ investment in a card is not that big of a deal.

 

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Okay old build I thought/think is dead

Intel i7 4790k

Msi z97 SLI KRAIT edition

16gb DDR3 HyperX RAM

EVGA Geforce GTX 980

Seasonic Gold 750w psu

Corsair H100I


New Build that isn’t showing input

Ryzen 5 5600X

Stock Cooler

ASUS B550-m TUF WIFI

PNY 32gb DDR4 3200 RAM

MSI MPG A850GF PSU

Seagate Firecuda 520 1TB

EVGA GEFORCE GTX 980

 

I’ve tried: Starting the old build without the GPU and with new PSU. No display no fan spin. Starting new build with new PSU and old PSU no fan spin. Everything is 100% seated correctly. The new mobo bios flashed without any issues. Using BIOS flashback and USB. No fans are spinning up on either computer. I’ve tried every configuration I can think of.

 

I tried Both old and new PSU work with paper clip trick. RGB on new mobo works with both PSU

 

I’m thinking two things:

Old motherboard is dead and my GPU is dead. My old pc should post with integrated graphics but it’s not. It was BSODing I replaced the thermal compound and it worked fine again until one day - nothing. My GPU fans would spin up when testing it until I tried power cycling too many times maybe and then they stopped so maybe I botched it it? Idk.


Getting really frustrated if you can’t tell. Need some outside eyes.

 

 

only other thing I can think to do is try fans that aren’t connected to the cpu in either computer and try the new PSU on both and see if we get a fan spin without literally any other parts in either MOBO. But I’m not even sure the fans are supposed to spin up in the first place.

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Did you do a bios update on the board (ryzen) when you got it? A b550 will usually need a r5000 updatd

I could use some help with this!

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The first time you start an AM4 it can take up to a minute for the bios to initialize and do its job and test the memory sticks and all that. Usually it takes less time, maybe 10-30 seconds but it can take more.

If you keep turning off psu after a few seconds, it's never gonna finish. So maybe be patient.

 

Next, I'd minimize the configuration .... pull the motherboard out the case, put it on some cardboard box or something that's insulator (plastic for example), just in case there's something wrong with your case and shorts something on the back of your power supply.

Connect just the 24 pin and 8 pin cables from the power supply , install just one stick of ram in the furthest slot from the cpu, if possible install a speaker to the header (or use some headphones, place the jack across the speaker pins) and start the computer by shorting the two power on pins in the front panel connector with a screwdriver for a second

 

The motherboard may have debug leds somewhere ... wait and look at the leds and see if some led remains lit. The board should have the cpu fan spinning and should make a series of beeps in the speakers which tell you no video card is detected. If any, the vga led would light up.

 

The board may be stuck "training" those ddr4 sticks, unplug power supply, pull out battery, wait 5-10s, put battery back in.. your bios settings are reset.

 

Another way of seeing if the bios actually works is by plugging an old PS/2 keyboard ... if you can press num lock and flip the led on / off, that's a sign the bios has initialized enough and there's cpu working to handle keyboard interrupts and the keyboard receives commands from the bios, so your computer is not frozen.

 

 

You can buy an ancient pci-e video card for around 10-15$ and you can have that around to test if your video card is gone.

FOr example:  Windows 10 DUAL DVI MONITOR Video Card. 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E x16 Low Profile DELL | eBay

or this (but you need to buy a separate DMS-69 to 2 x dvi/vga) : Dell ATI Radeon PCI-E Dual Video Low Profile Graphics Card HD2400 102B2670201 | eBay

 

Considering how much you paid for all those parts, 10-15$ investment in a card is not that big of a deal.

 

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19 minutes ago, mariushm said:

The first time you start an AM4 it can take up to a minute for the bios to initialize and do its job and test the memory sticks and all that. Usually it takes less time, maybe 10-30 seconds but it can take more.

If you keep turning off psu after a few seconds, it's never gonna finish. So maybe be patient.

 

Next, I'd minimize the configuration .... pull the motherboard out the case, put it on some cardboard box or something that's insulator (plastic for example), just in case there's something wrong with your case and shorts something on the back of your power supply.

Connect just the 24 pin and 8 pin cables from the power supply , install just one stick of ram in the furthest slot from the cpu, if possible install a speaker to the header (or use some headphones, place the jack across the speaker pins) and start the computer by shorting the two power on pins in the front panel connector with a screwdriver for a second

 

The motherboard may have debug leds somewhere ... wait and look at the leds and see if some led remains lit. The board should have the cpu fan spinning and should make a series of beeps in the speakers which tell you no video card is detected. If any, the vga led would light up.

 

The board may be stuck "training" those ddr4 sticks, unplug power supply, pull out battery, wait 5-10s, put battery back in.. your bios settings are reset.

 

Another way of seeing if the bios actually works is by plugging an old PS/2 keyboard ... if you can press num lock and flip the led on / off, that's a sign the bios has initialized enough and there's cpu working to handle keyboard interrupts and the keyboard receives commands from the bios, so your computer is not frozen.

 

 

You can buy an ancient pci-e video card for around 10-15$ and you can have that around to test if your video card is gone.

FOr example:  Windows 10 DUAL DVI MONITOR Video Card. 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E x16 Low Profile DELL | eBay

or this (but you need to buy a separate DMS-69 to 2 x dvi/vga) : Dell ATI Radeon PCI-E Dual Video Low Profile Graphics Card HD2400 102B2670201 | eBay

 

Considering how much you paid for all those parts, 10-15$ investment in a card is not that big of a deal.

 


Bro.. you’re not going to believe this.. but I forgot to turn the computer on.. cause I built it outside of the case to test everything.. I forgot you have to short the fucking motherboards power connector to flick it on.

 

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