Memory Sticks

[RocketNinja15]

Budget (including currency): Not Sure, not much more that I have now, ( let’s pretend gpu is normal price)

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 65% productivity 35% gaming 

Looking at my memory sticks and my cpu, would you suggest going with 2*16? Or even faster ram? Idk much about ram, besides speeds and amount of sticks so I would love to see! 
 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rocketninja15/saved/TcCbhM

 

[IkeaGnome]

For only $2 more faster 2x16 makes sense if you're doing productivity. I'm not sure what your ram usage actually is, but this also leaves room for you to potentially just add another set later for 64 if your apps end up taking up more than you planned. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yg3mP6/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk32gx4m2d3600c18 

[OfficialTechSpace]

Here's more-so what your build should look like:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tnhXcT

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ($549.00) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) 3200Mhz CL16  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB  ($234.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080  ($699.00) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A  ($84.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: MSI A750GF 750W 80+ Gold  ($121.33 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz  ($396.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Ducky One 2 RGB  ($139 @ mechanicalkeyboards) 
Headphones: Cooler Master MH751  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 

 

Total: $2745.24

 

1 hour ago, RocketNinja15 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rocketninja15/saved/TcCbhM

1. There's no need to skimp-out on your AIO on a $2500+ PC, just get a good cooler from Arctic.

2. B550 > X570, you have no need for that chipset. It's older, isn't passively cooled, and is commonly beaten by cheaper B550 counterparts.

3. Buying single 4x8GB kits is always cheaper that buying two 2x8GB kits.

4. Samsung SSD's are overpriced.

5. There's no reason to ever buy a custom card, they're always overpriced and aren't price regulated by NVIDIA

6. Case is not great for the money, a P360A is better suited for your use.

7. Not a good Power Supply for $130, the A750GF is cheaper and has a multi-rail configuration.

8. SteelSeries doesn't really make any decent peripherals, the only good "gaming" headphones are typically the MH751/752's.

9. Seriously... a $150 Corsair keyboard... you must be out of your mind...

[RocketNinja15]

1 minute ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

Here's more-so what your build should look like:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7qQQJf

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X ($549.00) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) 3200Mhz CL16  ($159.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB  ($234.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080  ($699.00) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A  ($84.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: MSI A750GF 750W 80+ Gold  ($121.33 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz  ($396.99 @ Adorama) 
Keyboard: Ducky One 2 Mini RGB  ($99.00) 
Headphones: Cooler Master MH751  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
 

Total: $2670.24

Can you give me reasons behind your changes?  

[OfficialTechSpace]

12 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

Can you give me reasons behind your changes?  

here: 

14 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

1. There's no need to skimp-out on your AIO on a $2500+ PC, just get a good cooler from Arctic.

2. B550 > X570, you have no need for that chipset. It's older, isn't passively cooled, and is commonly beaten by cheaper B550 counterparts.

3. Buying single 4x8GB kits is always cheaper that buying two 2x8GB kits.

4. Samsung SSD's are overpriced.

5. There's no reason to ever buy a custom card, they're always overpriced and aren't price regulated by NVIDIA

6. Case is not great for the money, a P360A is better suited for your use.

7. Not a good Power Supply for $130, the A750GF is cheaper and has a multi-rail configuration.

8. SteelSeries doesn't really make any decent peripherals, the only good "gaming" headphones are typically the MH751/752's.

9. Seriously... a $150 Corsair keyboard... you must be out of your mind...

 

[RocketNinja15]

11 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

here: 

 

For the motherboard, is there a Wi-Fi version?

[OfficialTechSpace]

1 minute ago, RocketNinja15 said:

For the motherboard, is there a Wi-Fi version?

MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI

 

I'll update the list to match also.

[FireAbyss111802]

2 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

For the motherboard, is there a Wi-Fi version?

you can buy a wifi adapter online for $20

 

 

like this: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-usb-wifi-adapter-pc/dp/B08D72GSMS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=wifi+adapter+ac1300&qid=1625342700&sr=8-1

[RocketNinja15]

6 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI

 

I'll update the list to match also.

Awesome! For the ducky keyboard, is there a version with a number pad for productivity? 

[OfficialTechSpace]

3 minutes ago, FireAbyss111802 said:

you can buy a wifi adapter online for $20

like this: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-usb-wifi-adapter-pc/dp/B08D72GSMS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=wifi+adapter+ac1300&qid=1625342700&sr=8-1

There's no reason to use a WiFi adapter in 2021. It's typically more cost effective to get a motherboard with WIFI, and there are many cons to using a dongle rather than going directly through the motherboard.

[OfficialTechSpace]

6 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

Awesome! For the ducky keyboard, is there a version with a number pad for productivity? 

Ducky One 2 RGB

 

I'll update the list to include this as well. 

 

PS: I recommend the Cherry MX Brown switches for the average user. 

[RocketNinja15]

18 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

Ducky One 2 RGB

 

I'll update the list to include this as well. 

 

PS: I recommend the Cherry MX Brown switches for the average user. 

Awesome… don’t worry about updating it but I decided to go without num pad… I actually never use this  what should be the price for https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vfc48d/ducky-one-2-mini-wired-standard-keyboard-dkon1861st-buspdazt1

[OfficialTechSpace]

3 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

Awesome… don’t worry about updating it but I decided to go without num pad… I actually never use this  what should be the price for https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vfc48d/ducky-one-2-mini-wired-standard-keyboard-dkon1861st-buspdazt1

It's typically just $99 w/. free shipping, TKL boards are usually a fair bit cheaper. 

Ducky One 2 Mini v2 RGB

[RocketNinja15]

7 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

It's typically just $99 w/. free shipping, TKL boards are usually a fair bit cheaper. 

Ducky One 2 Mini v2 RGB

Thanks! For the SSD, is it faster?, I know it has more storage…. And with that I won’t need the HDD right… is there any way I would need it? 
 

From what I read…. The Samsung is way faster 

[OfficialTechSpace]

3 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

Thanks! For the SSD, is it faster?

For your use, it'll probably be about on-par with the Samsung. Otherwise it's definitely faster than the HDD, a single 2TB SSD would be a better setup than a 500GB plus an HDD any day of the week.

3 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

And with that I won’t need the HDD right… is there any way I would need it? 

Nope, no need for an HDD in 2021 unless you're trying to build a NAS or need mass storage for cheap (typically far more than 2TB).

[RocketNinja15]

12 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

For your use, it'll probably be about on-par with the Samsung. Otherwise it's definitely faster than the HDD, a single 2TB SSD would be a better setup than a 500GB plus an HDD any day of the week.

Nope, no need for an HDD in 2021 unless you're trying to build a NAS or need mass storage for cheap (typically far more than 2TB).

I mean, when I looked it up, it was 86-100% faster on the Samsung side…. I am also doing gaming, so I kinda want a fast ssd…. The samsung 2tb is 360 so idk 

[OfficialTechSpace]

34 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

I mean, when I looked it up, it was 86-100% faster on the Samsung side…. I am also doing gaming, so I kinda want a fast ssd…. The samsung 2tb is 360 so idk 

Transfer rate is different than speed, and it's got a better transfer rate than the sub  ~150mbps you'd be getting on a Hard Drive for the same price. IOPs is the only relative measurement to access speed, and anything over 100K is mostly unnoticeable in general use.

 

Again, this is compared to the theoretical 90 IOPS of a 7200RPM Hard Drive.

Like I said, for your use performance will be about on-par with the Samsung. There's no reason to pay a premium for performance you won't notice in day-to-day use.

[RocketNinja15]

1 hour ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

Transfer rate is different than speed, and it's got a better transfer rate than the sub  ~150mbps you'd be getting on a Hard Drive for the same price. IOPs is the only relative measurement to access speed, and anything over 100K is mostly unnoticeable in general use.

 

Again, this is compared to the theoretical 90 IOPS of a 7200RPM Hard Drive.

Like I said, for your use performance will be about on-par with the Samsung. There's no reason to pay a premium for performance you won't notice in day-to-day use.

Ok, awesome, last couple of things, first, on the headphones side, what makes them so much better… on the case side, same thing…. Mine has more fans and everything, so why is it better…. And finally, I still get the error about motherboard about updating BIOS… will that be an issue? 

[OfficialTechSpace]

52 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

first, on the headphones side, what makes them so much better…

The Cooler Master MH751/752's are rebranded Takstar Pro82's, which are renowned for their sound quality at their price. The SteelSeries headphones are designed, engineered, and tuned by a gaming peripherals company... see my point? Not exactly masters of the audio realm, nor is any "gaming" company for that matter.

52 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

Mine has more fans and everything, so why is it better…. 

More fans doesn't = more better. The case is also ~$35 cheaper with similar specs, and is one of the most highly recommended here on the forum. If you want a third fan in the front, opt. for the Phanteks P400A Digital.

52 minutes ago, RocketNinja15 said:

And finally, I still get the error about motherboard about updating BIOS… will that be an issue? 

Vendors usually update the BIOS on their motherboards before they are shipped out and sold, but in the rare case that they don't you'll still be able to update it manually using a USB stick and the BIOS flash button located on your motherboards rear I/O.

 

here (top of the board, on the left-hand side):

 

 

[RocketNinja15]

From many people I have heard that the P400a is a great choice. I was wondering what sets it apart from anything else, including other models such as the P500,  etc. In my build right now I have the Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh White w/ Controller ATX Mid Tower Case…. 

Any other ideas on this?

 

Build:https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rocketninja15/saved/TcCbhM

[OfficialTechSpace]

1 hour ago, RocketNinja15 said:

I was wondering what sets it apart from anything else, including other models such as the P500,  etc. In my build right now I have the Cooler Master MasterBox TD500 Mesh

Price, radiator support, fan size mounting options, component clearance, and overall airflow/thermals.

 

Didn't exactly need a new thread to ask that.

 

P500A Digital ($139.99)

Fan Options          -   Front: 3 x 120mm or 3 x 140mm fan
                                  Top: 3 x 120mm or 3 x 140mm fan
                                  Rear: 1 x 120mm or 1 x 140mm fan

 

Radiator Options   -   Front: 360mm, 420mm
                                  Top: 280mm, 360mm
                                  Rear: 120mm, 140mm

P400A Digital ($84.99)

Fan Options          -   Front: 3 x 120mm (2 x 120mm black fan included) or 2 x 140mm fan
                                  Top: 2 x 120mm or 2 x 140mm fan
                                  Rear: 1 x 120mm fan

 

Radiator Options   -   Front - Up to 360mm / Rear - Up to 120mm

 

TD500 Mesh ($120)

Fan Options          -   Front: 3 x 120mm (3 x 120mm ARGB fans Pre-installed) / 2 x 140mm fan
                                  Top: 3 x 120mm / 2 x 140mm fan
                                  Rear: 1 x 120mm fan

 

Radiator Options   -   Front: 120 / 140 / 240 / 280 / 360mm
                                  Top: 120 / 240 / 360mm (44mm max motherboard component height)
                                  Rear: 120mm

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