Need some help with deciding on something...

[Ya_Boi_Nick]

Hello, fellow gamers and pc builders, I am a console gamer that got into PC cuz it looks way better than console and also all my friends are on PC, but that's beside the point. So while I was gaming on RDO (red dead redemption online), it came to a point where I had to decide between the looks of the game and performance. Now after a few minutes of trying to find the fine line between both I just decided to pick the overuse decision and when with the looks over performance. Now after playing about 4 to 5 hours playing on high/medium I am getting fed up with getting away lower than 40 FPS. So I search up a few things and I came across this, overclock my GPU (GTX 1060 3GB) or add more ram. At this point, I don't know what to do to get a little more performance. My goal is just to have a simple good looking gameplay with an average FPS of 40 or higher without having to see glitches or lag issues with my graphics or having to tell if that shoe is a rock or an actual shoe. Your help in anyway would be very helpful.  

 

My system is composed of:

• CPU:

AMD Ryzen 5 2600

• RAM:

16.0GB Dual-Channel 1064MHz (15-15-15-36)

• Motherboard:

ASRock B450M Pro4 (AM4)

• Graphics:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (EVGA)

• Storage:

232GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 250GB (SATA (SSD))

1863GB Seagate ST2000DM008-2FR102 (SATA (SSD))

 

All running on Windows 10 64-bit

[Dedayog]

What RAM is that exactly?  It's running at 2133Mhz, but it may be able to higher with XMP.  More than 16GB of RAM won't make RDO run faster, tested that with my system.

 

OCing the 1060 may net you 4-5 fps max, you're looking at bringing some settings down.  Look for an online guide that knows what settings to tweak to get the most bang.  

[Zayage]

It's also important to put up what resolution you normally play at. I assume 1080p but if you are playing at 1440p (or even some rather intensive games at 1080p like RDR2 or CP2077) your GPU won't be able to handle even medium textures, afaik.

 

Like dedayog said try to find out what RAM that is, even if your GPU is capped at the memory limit it should switch over to system memory, which is very likely to be the cause of graphical issues and inconsistent FPS. If you can turn on XMP it may be smoother than without.

[Surestgarlic2]

try razer cortex and MSI afterburner and wise game booster 

[Montana One-Six]

Dedayog has some good points.

 

I don't have RDR2 so I don't know how demanding the game is on your VRAM. But considering it is a fairly new game I would say your biggest problem is that 3GB VRAM buffer.

So overclocking your GPU will probably not give much performance.

[Ya_Boi_Nick]

46 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

What RAM is that exactly?  It's running at 2133Mhz, but it may be able to higher with XMP.  More than 16GB of RAM won't make RDO run faster, tested that with my system.

 

OCing the 1060 may net you 4-5 fps max, you're looking at bringing some settings down.  Look for an online guide that knows what settings to tweak to get the most bang.  

The ram I am using is dual Ripjaws DDR4 sticks at 3200 but it's running at 2133. Should I max that out? Also, bringing some setting does improve FPS but not by much like 2 or 3 and if I bring them down more it makes the game look kinda ugly. But if I got to play on a low setting to stop some buffering I think ima do that.

[Ya_Boi_Nick]

41 minutes ago, Zayage said:

It's also important to put up what resolution you normally play at. I assume 1080p but if you are playing at 1440p (or even some rather intensive games at 1080p like RDR2 or CP2077) your GPU won't be able to handle even medium textures, afaik.

 

Like dedayog said try to find out what RAM that is, even if your GPU is capped at the memory limit it should switch over to system memory, which is very likely to be the cause of graphical issues and inconsistent FPS. If you can turn on XMP it may be smoother than without.

I normally play on 1920x1200 resolution. What is XMP?

[Ya_Boi_Nick]

16 minutes ago, Montana16 said:

Dedayog has some good points.

 

I don't have RDR2 so I don't know how demanding the game is on your VRAM. But considering it is a fairly new game I would say your biggest problem is that 3GB VRAM buffer.

So overclocking your GPU will probably not give much performance.

Alright so u saying I should get a hole new GPU? hahah

[Ya_Boi_Nick]

Ok so overall I should not overclock my GPU cuz that's useless, putting more memory/ram will not change anything and the only solution is to play around in the setting in-game or just simply buy a new GPU with more VRAM?

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, Ya_Boi_Nick said:

The ram I am using is dual Ripjaws DDR4 sticks at 3200 but it's running at 2133. Should I max that out? Also, bringing some setting does improve FPS but not by much like 2 or 3 and if I bring them down more it makes the game look kinda ugly. But if I got to play on a low setting to stop some buffering I think ima do that.

Go into the BIOS of your machine and enable DOCP.  It's AMD's version of Intel's XMP.  They are the names for what the BIOS does to overclock RAM.  2133 is the base speed, but since you bought 3200MHz you can get the BIOD to run it as such.

 

You should be able to find a "profile" for your RAM speed in your BIOS.  Not sure exactly where, BIOS' can be slightly different.  It'll net you a few fps.

 

As for settings... I mention a guide because other people have painstakingly tweaked them all and measured the gains, they know which ones to change for the biggest fps improvements which you may not know.  It's not just a factor of lowering them all.

[Ya_Boi_Nick]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Go into the BIOS of your machine and enable DOCP.  It's AMD's version of Intel's XMP.  They are the names for what the BIOS does to overclock RAM.  2133 is the base speed, but since you bought 3200MHz you can get the BIOD to run it as such.

 

You should be able to find a "profile" for your RAM speed in your BIOS.  Not sure exactly where, BIOS' can be slightly different.  It'll net you a few fps.

 

As for settings... I mention a guide because other people have painstakingly tweaked them all and measured the gains, they know which ones to change for the biggest fps improvements which you may not know.  It's not just a factor of lowering them all.

Thx you and everyone else very much for the help I will do what you said and see the difference.

[Montana One-Six]

14 minutes ago, Ya_Boi_Nick said:

Alright so u saying I should get a hole new GPU? hahah

It would help but at the current GPU market not the smartest solution.

 

I would start with the in-game settings and try to play around with those to see which ones change performance a lot and which don't. Find a good mixture of settings that make it so that you are satisfied with the performance while not skimping too much down on graphics.

 

Also in the in-game video settings there should be a bar that shows how much VRAM your settings need which should give you an indication if your settings are too high or not.

[Zayage]

3 minutes ago, Montana16 said:

It would help but at the current GPU market not the smartest solution.

 

I would start with the in-game settings and try to play around with those to see which ones change performance a lot and which don't. Find a good mixture of settings that make it so that you are satisfied with the performance while not skimping too much down on graphics.

 

Also in the in-game video settings there should be a bar that shows how much VRAM your settings need which should give you an indication if your settings are too high or not.

Pretty much this, but to add to it the most likely settings to turn down will be anything related to textures and SSAO, if RDO has that. They should contribute to that VRAM usage and performance quite heavily. I'd start with medium and work your way down on those two, then up with the rest till you see what looks good enough for you.

 

If you were to get a reasonable upgrade for your current GPU it would be something around 400 dollars right now. Bit insane, but that's actually a bit lower than usual.