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17 minutes ago, TheBossOfAir said:

I am seeing 3900x on sale right now for about $410 USD and I am wondering if it makes more sense to go for a 5800x which is about the same price. I am mainly going to use it for gaming and thinking of going into some light editing. Is it more worth going for more cores with the 3900x or the newer 5800x?

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I'd only go for the 3900X if you actually have a need for those cores (lot of VMs, animation, etc.). For gaming and some light editing, the extra cores aren't gonna help too much, and the extra single thread performance of the 5800x is going to be very useful (especially if you get a 3080).

I am seeing 3900x on sale right now for about $410 USD and I am wondering if it makes more sense to go for a 5800x which is about the same price. I am mainly going to use it for gaming and thinking of going into some light editing. Is it more worth going for more cores with the 3900x or the newer 5800x?

If your wondering what my other components are:
1050ti (trying to get 3070 or 3080)
gen 3 m.2
3000mhz ram

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5800X would be better for what you plan to use it for. The much better single core performance will matter more for gaming and 8c/16t is plenty for both gaming and "light editing". The 3900X would only be better for workloads that could fully utilize all 24 threads.

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17 minutes ago, TheBossOfAir said:

I am seeing 3900x on sale right now for about $410 USD and I am wondering if it makes more sense to go for a 5800x which is about the same price. I am mainly going to use it for gaming and thinking of going into some light editing. Is it more worth going for more cores with the 3900x or the newer 5800x?

If your wondering what my other components are:
1050ti (trying to get 3070 or 3080)
gen 3 m.2
3000mhz ram

I'd only go for the 3900X if you actually have a need for those cores (lot of VMs, animation, etc.). For gaming and some light editing, the extra cores aren't gonna help too much, and the extra single thread performance of the 5800x is going to be very useful (especially if you get a 3080).

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20 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

5800X would be better for what you plan to use it for. The much better single core performance will matter more for gaming and 8c/16t is plenty for both gaming and "light editing". The 3900X would only be better for workloads that could fully utilize all 24 threads.

if 8 cores is enough would it be more cost effective to go with the older 3700x/3800x or the more expensive new 5800x?

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Just now, TheBossOfAir said:

if 8 cores is enough would it be more cost effective to go with the older 3700x/3800x or the more expensive new 5800x?

5800x.

It's much better at single thread, nearly 25% faster, so for gaming it's way better.

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8 hours ago, TheBossOfAir said:

if 8 cores is enough would it be more cost effective to go with the older 3700x/3800x or the more expensive new 5800x?

For buying new, the extra $100 for the 5800X is worth it, if you can afford it. If you already had a 3700X, it wouldn't be worth upgrading over.

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I wouldn't even consider Zen 2 at this point, unless cost was the absolute driving factor.

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2 hours ago, freeagent said:

I wouldn't even consider Zen 2 at this point, unless cost was the absolute driving factor.

Agreed. 5800x every day of the week and thrice on Sundays.

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IMO the Zen3 5800x out of those 2 choices, especially if you mostly game and "light editing maybe". I'd avoid using Ryzen 3000 with a 3080.

 

IMO I'd tell my friend if he was considering a 5800x to just get the 5900x, they are priced way to close together. The 5900x will always resell for more than a 5800x, I'd bet everything I own that the 5900x will resell for the $100 extra over a 5800x for at least the next 3 years, when its upgrade time in 3-6 years it'll have cost either $0 or at most $50 more to have owned the faster chip. Especially within the budget of a 3080 system. If it prevents an upgrade by even a year the 5900x is actually the cheaper option.

 

I'd choose intel 10th gen over Ryzen 3000 with a 3080 if your looking to have a better value than Zen3. Ryzen 3000 isn't any cheaper than Intel 10th gen now and its slower.

 

If you live near microcenter a 10850k is $319, IMO that's the best CPU deal in the world right now if your lucky enough to live near microcenter. The 10850k will be faster over either the 3900x or 5800x, only the 5900x would be faster than a 10850k.

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