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Yesterday when I was playing with my friends the game all of a sudden hang and  game crash detected message. (This is not the first time)  I did the routine troubleshooting steps and to no avail. (GPU drivers up to date windows update)

I then went into MSI afterburner and to my supprise my under clock had been reset (Must not have clicked the run on startup thing) I then could play for the rest of the night with no issues. Does the fact that locking the core clocks and mem clocks at the lowest slider just to get stability mean my gpu is on the verge of death? (GTX 770) or is somthing else at play? I went into event viewer and it spit out an error code that with a quick google search revealed was solved in 2018? If you guys have any more tips I would love to hear them as due to the shortage I really can't buy the card I want if this one dies.

Any help or suggestions are appreciated.

 

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Not really enough info to go on to be honest. The card could have overheated, the program could simply be buggy, I wouldn't jump straight to a dying GPU.

Post the error message(s) you saw, let's see what's what.

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9 minutes ago, SignatureSigner said:

Yesterday when I was playing with my friends the game all of a sudden hang and  game crash detected message. (This is not the first time)  I did the routine troubleshooting steps and to no avail. (GPU drivers up to date windows update)

I then went into MSI afterburner and to my supprise my under clock had been reset (Must not have clicked the run on startup thing) I then could play for the rest of the night with no issues. Does the fact that locking the core clocks and mem clocks at the lowest slider just to get stability mean my gpu is on the verge of death? (GTX 770) or is somthing else at play? I went into event viewer and it spit out an error code that with a quick google search revealed was solved in 2018? If you guys have any more tips I would love to hear them as due to the shortage I really can't buy the card I want if this one dies.

Any help or suggestions are appreciated.

 

If your card can't sustain regular operation without under clocking it, I'd say the time to say good bye is near. When a 970 died on me, the screen was going black every time I launched a game. Temperatures and everything else seemed under control.

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What are your temperatures like while in game? The card can be thermal throttling. Since its a pretty old card, the thermal paste has most likely dried up and needs to be replaced. 

16 minutes ago, SignatureSigner said:

I went into event viewer and it spit out an error code that with a quick google search revealed was solved in 2018? If you guys have any more tips I would love to hear them as due to the shortage I really can't buy the card I want if this one dies.

Can you provide that error code here for us? 

17 minutes ago, SignatureSigner said:

(GPU drivers up to date windows update)

That's great and all, but have you tried to reinstall your graphics drivers using DDU and perform a clean install when installing?? (You'll find this under advanced install option and check mark the box for clean install)

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18 minutes ago, SpiderMan said:

What are your temperatures like while in game? The card can be thermal throttling. Since its a pretty old card, the thermal paste has most likely dried up and needs to be replaced. 

Can you provide that error code here for us? 

That's great and all, but have you tried to reinstall your graphics drivers using DDU and perform a clean install when installing?? (You'll find this under advanced install option and check mark the box for clean install)

The cards temps are well in reason. When I underclock it (Core 1180mhz MEM 3000mhz) it sits at around 55-60c. In games that fully hit the card it hits 70-75c and never really goes any higher as the airflow in my case is more than  adequate to keep it cool.

 

I can post the error code around 3 today as I'm not home atm and don't have it on hand. It was an epic games online service code of some sort.

 

I servery doubt its a driver issue more of a card or game issue itself. 

One thing I might try is reinstalling the Epic Games Store and seeing if a clean game launcher install fixes the issue.

I don't seem to have issues in other games and the card is stable in Furmark both non underclocked and with max clocks.

 

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Seems like a software/driver issue. I have had similar problems with perfectly working GPUs.

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1 minute ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

Seems like a software/driver issue. I have had similar problems with perfectly working GPUs.

Part of me is tempted to do the windows 'fresh start' thing and just reinstall some games and see if the issue persists.

(or a whole new windows install all together.)

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7 minutes ago, SignatureSigner said:

The cards temps are well in reason. When I underclock it (Core 1180mhz MEM 3000mhz) it sits at around 55-60c. In games that fully hit the card it hits 70-75c and never really goes any higher as the airflow in my case is more than  adequate to keep it cool.

 

I can post the error code around 3 today as I'm not home atm and don't have it on hand. It was an epic games online service code of some sort.

 

I servery doubt its a driver issue more of a card or game issue itself. 

One thing I might try is reinstalling the Epic Games Store and seeing if a clean game launcher install fixes the issue.

I don't seem to have issues in other games and the card is stable in Furmark both non underclocked and with max clocks.

 

Alright, those temps are pretty reasonable. 

 

If it was an Epic games errors, this pretty much limited now to the games provided from them, so then I would definitely agree on the issue is not with the card but rather that software. 

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44 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Not really enough info to go on to be honest. The card could have overheated, the program could simply be buggy, I wouldn't jump straight to a dying GPU.

Post the error message(s) you saw, let's see what's what.

I will post the error code later today as I'm currently not at home.

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3 minutes ago, Dean0919 said:

I'll tell you something: Once, I just went into Epic Stores's settings and enabled that service there and after that game was crashing. I disabled that service and it went back to normal. If you have enabled that thing, it might be the problem. Disable it and then check the game.

What setting exactly?

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