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Panda101
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Budget (including currency): $1200

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 120 fps at least in minecraft and school

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Is there anything I can change to make it 1200 dollars and still have 120 fps in minecraft 

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I see two parts that you could change out with another to reduce your total cost.

The first one being the CPU, an i9 is nice, but it is a bit overkill for Minecraft and school. I would recommend change that CPU over to the Intel Core i5-10400F or the AMD Ryzen 5 3600

The second one being the SSD, Samsung is a very popular brand, but with the name brand, comes the name brand price. I would recommend change it out for a SSD made from Western Digital, ADATA, Seagate, etc...

Here is a pcpartpicker list of the changes that will reduce your price. Sadly, I could not get a GPU into the parts list, due to the current GPU environment. Though the i5-10400 should be able to play Minecraft at relatively good fps and will do your school work just fine. Hopefully you find this helpful and best of luck on your build.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $105.66 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $96.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $106.79 @ Amazon
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.73 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $855.13
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 10:36 EDT-0400  

 

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Ryzen 5700g @ 4.4ghz all cores | Asrock B550M Steel Legend | 3060 | 2x 16gb Micron E 2666 @ 4200mhz cl16 | 500gb WD SN750 | 12 TB HDD | Deepcool Gammax 400 w/ 2 delta 4000rpm push pull | Antec Neo Eco Zen 500w

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21 minutes ago, JasonTheAsian said:

I see two parts that you could change out with another to reduce your total cost.

The first one being the CPU, an i9 is nice, but it is a bit overkill for Minecraft and school. I would recommend change that CPU over to the Intel Core i5-10400F or the AMD Ryzen 5 3600

The second one being the SSD, Samsung is a very popular brand, but with the name brand, comes the name brand price. I would recommend change it out for a SSD made from Western Digital, ADATA, Seagate, etc...

Here is a pcpartpicker list of the changes that will reduce your price. Sadly, I could not get a GPU into the parts list, due to the current GPU environment. Though the i5-10400 should be able to play Minecraft at relatively good fps and will do your school work just fine. Hopefully you find this helpful and best of luck on your build.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $164.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B460M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $105.66 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $96.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $106.79 @ Amazon
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.73 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $855.13
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 10:36 EDT-0400  

 

B460 caps your RAM speed at 2666MHZ, 3600MHZ is very overkill and even if he could OC his ram 3200MHZ is more than enough, the H510 has no airflow and is a pretty bad case, also that PSU isn't great for the price. The Antec NeoEco Gold would prob be better

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $142.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Swordfish 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $101.99 @ Amazon
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply ARESGAME AGV 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $872.91
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 10:50 EDT-0400  

I feel that this is a much more reasonable list for your needs. You don't need an i9 for what you are doing so i put an i5 11400 which is a 6 core 12 thread processor with very good value. The Hyper 212 Evo is a good CPU cooler that will be enough for the 11400. The motherboard is a bit pricey for a b560 board but availability for b560 boards is not very good right now so this is what i could find. Alternatively if there is a microcenter near you you can pick up the 11400 and the Motherboard together for a discount with much better availability. I changed the memory to a 3200 speed kit as 3600 is overkill for intel. I picked an SSD from Adata as they are a good SSD brand and the Samsung one is very pricey. I kept the H510 as to keep the aesthetics you had planned although the Phanteks P360A is a great alternative option if you are up for it. I picked a 750W semi-modular unit from Aresgame which is 80 plus Bronze rated. 750W offers a large upgrade path if you can use the integrated graphics and save up to get a gpu in the future when they are more availible.

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $142.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $106.79 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $400.00
Case Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Newegg
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1302.71
  Mail-in rebates -$15.00
  Total $1287.71
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 10:51 EDT-0400  

Gtx 1070s can be found used for around $400. Bad deal but in the current market it's not horrible

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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1 minute ago, Aquarius said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $142.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Swordfish 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $101.99 @ Amazon
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply ARESGAME AGV 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $872.91
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 10:50 EDT-0400  

I feel that this is a much more reasonable list for your needs. You don't need an i9 for what you are doing so i put an i5 11400 which is a 6 core 12 thread processor with very good value. The Hyper 212 Evo is a good CPU cooler that will be enough for the 11400. The motherboard is a bit pricey for a b560 board but availability for b560 boards is not very good right now so this is what i could find. Alternatively if there is a microcenter near you you can pick up the 11400 and the Motherboard together for a discount with much better availability. I changed the memory to a 3200 speed kit as 3600 is overkill for intel. I picked an SSD from Adata as they are a good SSD brand and the Samsung one is very pricey. I kept the H510 as to keep the asthetics you had planned although the Phanteks P360A is a great alternative option if you are up for it. I picked a 750W semi-modular unit from Aresgame which is 80 plus Bronze rated. 750W offers a large upgrade path if you can use the integrated graphics and save up to get a gpu in the future.

Def an improvement, but once again the case is really bad, and that PSU is probably a fire hazard. Doesn't matter that it's 80+ bronze, that doesn't make the PSU good.

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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1 minute ago, Downkey said:

Def an improvement, but once again the case is really bad, and that PSU is probably a fire hazard. Doesn't matter that it's 80+ bronze, that doesn't make the PSU good.

I have heard good things about the PSU but to be safe I'll change it to something else. I'll also change the case.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $142.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Swordfish 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $101.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $111.00 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $923.92
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 10:56 EDT-0400  

 

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2 minutes ago, Aquarius said:

I have heard good things about the PSU but to be safe I'll change it to something else. I'll also change the case.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $142.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Swordfish 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $101.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $111.00 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $923.92
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 10:56 EDT-0400  

 

Much better PSU, but the RMx is terribly overpriced, and like I said in my earlier post a much cheaper PSU like the Antec NeoEco Gold ZEN would be much better for the price.

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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4 minutes ago, Aquarius said:

I have heard good things about the PSU but to be safe I'll change it to something else. I'll also change the case.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $142.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Swordfish 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $101.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $111.00 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $923.92
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 10:56 EDT-0400  

 

This list is good but the motherboard doesn't come with wifi

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2 minutes ago, Downkey said:

Much better PSU, but the RMx is terribly overpriced, and like I said in my earlier post a much cheaper PSU like the Antec NeoEco Gold ZEN would be much better for the price.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $142.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Swordfish 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $101.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $73.63 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $886.56
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 11:02 EDT-0400  

According to all that this should be good.

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5 minutes ago, Panda101 said:

This list is good but the motherboard doesn't come with wifi

Here is a cheap and small wifi adapter that uses usb. https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-wireless-network-Adapter-SoftAP/dp/B008IFXQFU/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2S6YAMPEYK1XP&dchild=1&keywords=usb+wifi+adapter&qid=1619449635&sprefix=usb+wifi%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-5

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Just now, Aquarius said:

Here is a cheap and small wifi adapter that uses usb. https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-wireless-network-Adapter-SoftAP/dp/B008IFXQFU/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2S6YAMPEYK1XP&dchild=1&keywords=usb+wifi+adapter&qid=1619449635&sprefix=usb+wifi%2Caps%2C157&sr=8-5

Ok but is it fine if I ignore the note at the bottom that says 

  • Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.
 
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Just now, Panda101 said:

Ok but is it fine if I ignore the note at the bottom that says 

  • Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.
 

Yes that is fine. It just means that if you have a very large cpu cooler and very large RAM they might interfere and they cant measure that. The 212 Evo isnt a big cpu cooler and the Vulcan Z RAM is not big so you are fine.

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1 minute ago, Panda101 said:

Ok but is it fine if I ignore the note at the bottom that says 

  • Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.
 

Don't worry about that. Every single list will have that warning, although I can 100% guarantee that the issue listed is not a problem and will not affect you.

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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10 minutes ago, Aquarius said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $31.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $142.98 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $82.99 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA Swordfish 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $101.99 @ Amazon
Case Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 700 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $73.63 @ Amazon
Monitor Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor $199.00 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $886.56
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-26 11:02 EDT-0400  

According to all that this should be good.

Be sure to use this list though as it includes a better case and power supply then the original list.

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