NAS Server Build Questions

[Boulanger]

I'm putting together a NAS server build for file/footage storage here.

Requirements/Notes:

• Reasonably quiet, enterprise solutions probably out of the question due to how loud they are
• $5K max budget
• Rack Mount
• Using ZFS so ECC is a must
• Footage is mainly 1080p but will definitely switch to 4K in the future
• Will be wiring 10G networking for this. Deployment to multiple editing machines will be on the UniFi Switch 16 XG
• Planning on using a VPN portal so shooters can upload footage from anywhere

Questions:

• Did I reasonably spec out the CPU/Memory to handle the amount of storage I will have?
• Is the UniFi Switch 16 XG a good 10G switch to handle the data transfer? I was hoping to stick with Ubiquiti

Thanks for checking this out!

[Haraikomono]

6 minutes ago, Boulanger said:

I'm putting together a NAS server build for file/footage storage here.

Requirements/Notes:

• Reasonably quiet, enterprise solutions probably out of the question due to how loud they are
• $5K max budget
• Rack Mount
• Using ZFS so ECC is a must
• Footage is mainly 1080p but will definitely switch to 4K in the future
• Will be wiring 10G networking for this. Deployment to multiple editing machines will be on the UniFi Switch 16 XG
• Planning on using a VPN portal so shooters can upload footage from anywhere

Questions:

• Did I reasonably spec out the CPU/Memory to handle the amount of storage I will have?
• Is the UniFi Switch 16 XG a good 10G switch to handle the data transfer? I was hoping to stick with Ubiquiti

Thanks for checking this out!

How about 2 Base model Storinators ? That are running in High Availibility.

https://www.45drives.com/products/storinator-c8-configurations.php

[Haraikomono]

Btw. Does the Budget include the costs for storage ?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Why did you pick the xeon, Id probably go with a ryzen system here, and the asrock rack server boards.

 

Id get fewer bigger drives, like 16tb. Less power and less hdd bays usage.

 

Id get a bettter case, like those used supermicro 24 bay ones.

 

Im not a huge unifi fan these days, but that switch will work fine.

14 minutes ago, Boulanger said:

Using ZFS so ECC is a must

Just saying, ZFS doesn't need ecc any more than any other filesystem. Other system without ecc can still mess up data.

[Haraikomono]

16 minutes ago, Boulanger said:

I'm putting together a NAS server build for file/footage storage here.

Requirements/Notes:

• Reasonably quiet, enterprise solutions probably out of the question due to how loud they are
• $5K max budget
• Rack Mount
• Using ZFS so ECC is a must
• Footage is mainly 1080p but will definitely switch to 4K in the future
• Will be wiring 10G networking for this. Deployment to multiple editing machines will be on the UniFi Switch 16 XG
• Planning on using a VPN portal so shooters can upload footage from anywhere

Questions:

• Did I reasonably spec out the CPU/Memory to handle the amount of storage I will have?
• Is the UniFi Switch 16 XG a good 10G switch to handle the data transfer? I was hoping to stick with Ubiquiti

Thanks for checking this out!

sry didnt see your build there

 

[Boulanger]

47 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Why did you pick the xeon, Id probably go with a ryzen system here, and the asrock rack server boards.

 

Id get fewer bigger drives, like 16tb. Less power and less hdd bays usage.

 

Id get a bettter case, like those used supermicro 24 bay ones.

 

Im not a huge unifi fan these days, but that switch will work fine.

Just saying, ZFS doesn't need ecc any more than any other filesystem. Other system without ecc can still mess up data.

I wasn't super sure about Ryzen and ECC reliability. My research showed a mix bag of results getting ECC to work reliably on Ryzen. I went with Xeon because I know that ECC support is solid. I realize its probably overkill though. Can you link the supermicro case you are talking about?

53 minutes ago, Haraikomono said:

Btw. Does the Budget include the costs for storage ?

Yes it does

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Boulanger said:

I wasn't super sure about Ryzen and ECC reliability. My research showed a mix bag of results getting ECC to work reliably on Ryzen. I went with Xeon because I know that ECC suport is solid. I realize its probably overkill though. Can you link the supermicro case you are talking about?

54 minutes ago, Haraikomono said:

Here is the board id get https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X570D4U-2L2T#Specifications

 

I have one and ecc works as expected, and you get impi too. And its faster and cheaper.

 

Here is an example of a case id get on ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-CSE-846E1-R900B-4U-Server-Chassis-2x900W-24-Bay-3Gbps-BPN-SAS-846EL1/283515791664?epid=97011204&hash=item4202dba930:g:lNEAAOSwJWddAsbl

 

Just add a cpu + mobo + ram and your good.

[Boulanger]

1 hour ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Here is the board id get https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=X570D4U-2L2T#Specifications

 

I have one and ecc works as expected, and you get impi too. And its faster and cheaper.

 

Here is an example of a case id get on ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-CSE-846E1-R900B-4U-Server-Chassis-2x900W-24-Bay-3Gbps-BPN-SAS-846EL1/283515791664?epid=97011204&hash=item4202dba930:g:lNEAAOSwJWddAsbl

 

Just add a cpu + mobo + ram and your good.

How loud are the case fans? This rack is going in a working warehouse environment. It doesn't have to be whisper quiet, but I am also not a fan of how loud enterprise gear is. Also, whats a good metric for what to cpu to chose for a NAS build?

[Electronics Wizardy]

4 minutes ago, Boulanger said:

How loud are the case fans? This rack is going in a working warehouse environment. It doesn't have to be whisper quiet, but I am also not a fan of how loud enterprise gear is. Also, whats a good metric for what to cpu to chose for a NAS build?

For just a nas you don't need much of a cpu. 3600 will work fine here for just file sharing duties.

 

But if this is for work, id just get a premade system from dell/hpe/lenovo or a nas from like synology. Not really that much more epensive, and you get support and a better system.
 

The fans aren't silent, but not too bad. They should be fine in a wharehouse. Id make sure to have a seperate server room for network stuff though, and don't just put it in a corner.

[Boulanger]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

For just a nas you don't need much of a cpu. 3600 will work fine here for just file sharing duties.

 

But if this is for work, id just get a premade system from dell/hpe/lenovo or a nas from like synology. Not really that much more epensive, and you get support and a better system.

I don't mind building myself. The 5K budget and a goal of >20TB is kind of a limiting factor. I also need scalability moving forward. Was thinking of going direct attach copper PCIE when I eventually need to add another pool of drives. Super down to go with ryzen though.

[Electronics Wizardy]

7 minutes ago, Boulanger said:

I don't mind building myself. The 5K budget and a goal of >20TB is kind of a limiting factor. I also need scalability moving forward. Was thinking of going direct attach copper PCIE when I eventually need to add another pool of drives. Super down to go with ryzen though.

Id really go with a commercial solution as if it failes your a lot more screwed for a work system. Whats your plain for if the system failes?

 

Normally if you add anouther pool of drives you would use sas. 

 

But with 24 drive bays, and bigger drives(id go 12-18tb here) you shoulnd't need a das for a while.

[Boulanger]

Thoughts on the Synology RackStation? Allows for their expansion units going forward. I can sync to an offsite backup in the future too.

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 hour ago, Boulanger said:

Thoughts on the Synology RackStation? Allows for their expansion units going forward. I can sync to an offsite backup in the future too.

The one you linked is a expansion module only, it doesn't have a computer in it.

 

Synology systems are fine, probably won't work fine here(depends on your exact needs).