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Hey guys!

 

In the idea of building a new PC, what would you recommend as in with a better reliability, performance and warranty between the following (they are having around the same price) :

 

GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS MASTER + GIGABYTE RTX 3080 AORUS XTREME (plus AORUS COOLER)

OR

MSI Z590 ACE + MSI RTX 3080 SUPRIM X (plus MSI COOLER)

 

Thank you!

 

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I've used both MSI and Gigabyte products, never really saw a quality difference. MSI have been highly unethical as of late, so there's that if you want to take it into consideration.

So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds

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The MSI is probably better because GIGABYTE had this one incident where there GPUs just randomly stopped working. MSI is also a higher end brand.

My Future Build [Specs]:
Intel Core i5-10600KF

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 [Waiting for Restock]
Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 [Currently in my build]
AsRock Z490M-iTX
Team T-FORCE DARK Za 16GB @ 3600MHz
Corsair MX500 1TB SATA SSD
WD Blue WX81D 6TB @  5400RPM

My Future Build [Cooling, Case & PSU]:

NZXT Kraken X53 RGB [AIO CPU Cooler]
NZXT H210i Mini-iTX Tower Case

Seasonic FOCUS PX-750

My Current Build [Peripherals]:
Redragon K552 RGB [Outemu Blue Switches] [Black]
Razar Viper Mini [Black]
Viotek GN24CW 24-Inch @ 1080p 144hz [FreeSync Disabled] [White]

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22 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

I've used both MSI and Gigabyte products, never really saw a quality difference. MSI have been highly unethical as of late, so there's that if you want to take it into consideration.

The whole unethical thing is stupid. It came from a video by GamersNexus, which is run by an idiot who barely knows what a BIOS is.

If you didnt already notice [kind of]  im being a troll. GamersNexus is an OK channel but there are better places to get your info.

My Future Build [Specs]:
Intel Core i5-10600KF

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 [Waiting for Restock]
Nvidia GeForce GTX 680 [Currently in my build]
AsRock Z490M-iTX
Team T-FORCE DARK Za 16GB @ 3600MHz
Corsair MX500 1TB SATA SSD
WD Blue WX81D 6TB @  5400RPM

My Future Build [Cooling, Case & PSU]:

NZXT Kraken X53 RGB [AIO CPU Cooler]
NZXT H210i Mini-iTX Tower Case

Seasonic FOCUS PX-750

My Current Build [Peripherals]:
Redragon K552 RGB [Outemu Blue Switches] [Black]
Razar Viper Mini [Black]
Viotek GN24CW 24-Inch @ 1080p 144hz [FreeSync Disabled] [White]

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Gigabyte has some of the best mobo VRM’s right now, especially for the money. They get the nod for mobo 100%. GPU, honestly all about the same. I always go EVGA personally as they have won my brand loyalty with their outstanding customer support over the 15+ years of buying their hardware. But either would be fine. MSI has been a bit unethical lately, and gigabyte wins the mobo VRM, so if you wanted all parts to be from one manufacturer (which they don’t need to be...) I’d go gigabyte. 

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1 minute ago, djnjd09 said:

The whole unethical thing is stupid. It came from a video by GamersNexus, which is run by an idiot who barely knows what a BIOS is.

What..? Lol. It didn’t “come” from him. He just spread the word. It affected gamers unboxed or something? I forget their channel name.

 

Also, Gamers Nexus is one of the most technical channels out there, so, “barely knows what a BIOS is” doesn’t make much sense - your either trolling or you don’t watch their content. They are hands down one of the better channels for technical info that is also marketed to a wide audience. Yes, folks like buildzoid or Roman are “more in-depth and more technical”, but those channels are more targeted at very specific hardware and overclocking. 

Rig: i7 10700k @ 5.1Ghz, 4.8 Ring - - Z490 Vision G - - EVGA RTX 2080 XC Ultra @ 2025Mhz - - 4x8GB Vengeance Pro 3000Mhz 15-17-17-34 @ 3500MHz 16-19-19-38 - - Samsung 950 Pro 512 NVMe Boot + Main Programs - - Samsung 830 Pro 256 RAID 0 Lightroom + Photo work - - WD Blue 1 TB SSD for Games - - Corsair RM850x - - Sound BlasterX EA-5 - - EK Supremacy Evo - - XT45 X-Flow 420 + UT60 280 rads - - EK Full Cover GPU Block - - EK XRES RGB PWM - - Fractal Define S2 - - Acer Predator X34 -- Logitech G502 - - Logitech G710+ - - Logitech Z5500 - - Steel Series QcK XXL

 

Headphones/amp/dac: Schiit Lyr 3 - - Fostex TR-X00 - - Sennheiser HD 6xx

 

Homelab/ Media Server: ESXi 6.5 - - 250 GB SSD for VM's/ESXi boot - - FreeNAS 11.3-U2 - - HPE Proliant ML10 Gen 9 backbone - - i3 6100 - - 28 GB ECC - - 10x4 TB WD Red RAID Z2 - - Corsair 750D - - Corsair RM650i - - Dell H310 6Gbps SAS HBA - - Intel RES2SC240 SAS Expander

 

White Lightning (original full watercooled build) - Homelab / Media Server - The Blue Beast (my car and other expensive hobby...) - iPhone Xs - 2018 MacBook Air

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I'm a huge gigabyte fan, MSI products have less cosmetic features like m.2 sheild at lower prices but at your price range theyre pretty much the same...depends where you want your lights.

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16 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

They are hands down one of the better channels for technical info that is also marketed to a wide audience

I love GN, but they're too hung up about ram timings and stuff,  and they do *not* explain it well. 

 

I've seen some benchmarks where ram tuning alone would be good for 20 fps, which often sounds like bs to me. Like even if it's actually true,  he does not explain it well and therfore it comes off as made up,  and a couple of graphs alone aren't exactly convincing in my opinion. 

 

Also he seems often quite biased,  again I really like him but more for entertainment factor than actual info. 

 

 

I'm actually one of those people who thinks that anonymity is overrated. Some people confuse privacy and anonymity and think they go hand in hand, and that protecting privacy means that you need to protect anonymity. I think that's wrong. Anonymity is important if you're a whistle-blower, but if you cannot prove your identity, your crazy rant on some social-media platform shouldn't be visible, and you shouldn't be able to share it or like it.

 

Linus Torvalds 

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