First Gaming PC

[Greek_United]

  Hey Peepz

 

Looking at changing things up from Console Gaming to PC Gaming and have been looking at hardware which consists of the following -

• Asus Maximus VII Hero Motherboard
• Intel Core i7 4th Gen, 4790K

• 16GB DDR3 HyperX Ram
•  240GB Solid State Drive
•  4GB ASUS Strix GTX 980 Graphics card
• 1200w Modular PSU

Not Sure if it's a decent starting point so any and all advice would be heaps appreciated.

Also Any Advice On Cases, Fans and CPU Cooling that would match this would be awesome.

[Downkey]

3 minutes ago, Greek_United said:

  Hey Peepz

 

Looking at changing things up from Console Gaming to PC Gaming and have been looking at hardware which consists of the following -

• Asus Maximus VII Hero Motherboard
• Intel Core i7 4th Gen, 4790K

• 16GB DDR3 HyperX Ram
•  240GB Solid State Drive
•  4GB ASUS Strix GTX 980 Graphics card
• 1200w Modular PSU

Not Sure if it's a decent starting point so any and all advice would be heaps appreciated.

Also Any Advice On Cases, Fans and CPU Cooling that would match this would be awesome.

Is this used, and if so, what price? That CPU and GPU are almost 6 years old

[boggy77]

this is pretty old hardware, how much are you paying for it?

[AndreiArgeanu]

What's your budget? How much is the PC you listed above cost?

[Chaotic_]

I'll say hold off building a pc for now, prices are insane and that pc is already woth hardware over 5 years older. Who knows what abuse it went through, as for the base system without the card, intel prices are quite decent right now, even a 10th gen i3 will beat the snot out of the 4th gen system. As for a gpu the 980 is slower than a 1070, which inturn is mow slower than a 1660ti, i would avoid it tbh. Wait a while, continue being a console peasant for a little longer until prices normalise. Tho if you can snag a gpu at msrp go for a 1660 super, it matches the gtx 1070 and for cpu go for a 10th gen i3, amd doesn't really have entry level cpus and the i3 beats out the older gen ryzen cpus like the ryzen 3 and ryzen 5 4/8t  setups

[SkilledRebuilds]

Outside of unknown cost.... things of note.
4790K at 4.8Ghz is still slower than a 7700K CPU in many tasks.

CPU drives FPS higher than the GTX980 (I had a 1070 with mine), so you likely will not bottleneck it in majority of games except say 8core hungry titles

(CODMW 100FPS+ is less likely, 80-100FPS+ is likely/CBP2077 with High Traffic stutters so use Medium/Low to enhance minimums and avg fps)
The CPU and GPU are on the old side nowadays... capable of many things, but not the best PC you could likely throw together..

RAM speed matters more when highCPU utilization is in effect. (I hope it's faster than 1600Mhz DDR3 towards 2133/2400)
Storage - Save for more I guess, 240GB is good enough for starters.
PSU is a fair bit overkill, but if its what comes with it, what can ya do...

Planned OC's,..? I'd guess 4.6-4.7 would be "easily" attainable with 4.8+ being Less common. (240mm Radiator/AIO covers 4.7Ghz typical voltages)
Case - Front Mesh works the best.
Fans - Kinda subjective... each to their own.

Still no idea on price (newer deals are easily found) so that's why I'll leave it at that for now.
A locked i3 10100 basically matches an OC 4790K (give or take, game dependent)

EDIT - Sub600AUD, not totally a bad price... but you are spending more than this due to cooling/fans/case.

[Greek_United]

1 minute ago, Downkey said:

Is this used, and if so, what price? That CPU and GPU are almost 6 years old

Hi hardware is refurbished price is $599aud ($463.70usd)

[Greek_United]

4 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

this is pretty old hardware, how much are you paying for it?

Hi hardware is refurbished price is $599aud ($463.70usd)

[Downkey]

Just now, Greek_United said:

Hi hardware is refurbished price is $599aud ($463.70usd)

thats not that bad actually. I would add a bit of secondary storage tho, i doubt 240 is enough

[SupaKomputa]

You can get a fairly good hardware if you just use the lowest end of recent parts.

Start with Athlon 3000g or i3 10100.

You can upgrade it overtime.

[Greek_United]

5 minutes ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

What's your budget? How much is the PC you listed above cost?

Hi hardware is refurbished price is $599aud ($463.70usd)

[Greek_United]

1 minute ago, Downkey said:

thats not that bad actually. I would add a bit of secondary storage tho, i doubt 240 is enough

Ok awesome that helps if the price is decent, I'm also looking at a seagate barracuda 2tb hdd to add on

[boggy77]

3 minutes ago, Greek_United said:

Hi hardware is refurbished price is $599aud ($463.70usd)

that's a good price, especially given current gpu prices.

[Fasauceome]

14 minutes ago, Greek_United said:

Hi hardware is refurbished price is $599aud ($463.70usd)

 

11 minutes ago, Greek_United said:

Ok awesome that helps if the price is decent, I'm also looking at a seagate barracuda 2tb hdd to add on

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[curiousmind34]

17 minutes ago, Greek_United said:

Hi hardware is refurbished price is $599aud ($463.70usd)

Decent price, and gtx 980s sometimes going for almost the entire price of the pc, I would buy it.

[Greek_United]

11 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Outside of unknown cost.... things of note.
4790K at 4.8Ghz is still slower than a 7700K CPU in many tasks.

CPU drives FPS higher than the GTX980 (I had a 1070 with mine), so you likely will not bottleneck it in majority of games except say 8core hungry titles

(CODMW 100FPS+ is less likely, 80-100FPS+ is likely/CBP2077 with High Traffic)
The CPU and GPU are on the old side nowadays... capable of many things, but not the best PC you could likely throw together..

RAM speed matters more when highCPU utilization is in effect. (I hope it's faster than 1600Mhz DDR3 towards 2133/2400)
Storage - Save for more I guess, 240GB is good enough for starters.
PSU is a fair bit overkill, but if its what comes with it, what can ya do...

Planned OC's,..? I'd guess 4.6-4.7 would be "easily" attainable with 4.8+ being Less common. (240mm Radiator/AIO covers 4.7Ghz typical voltages)
Case - Front Mesh works the best.
Fans - Kinda subjective... each to their own.

Still no idea on price (newer deals are easily found) so that's why I'll leave it at that for now.
A locked i3 10100 basically matches an OC 4790K (give or take, game dependent)

EDIT - Sub600AUD, not totally a bad price... but you are spending more than this due to cooling/fans/case.

Hi appreciate the reply and all the information extremely helpful

 

I was considering a 10th gen i3 but was a little out of my budget roughly $600aud ($464.64usd) the case is being given at no cost and am being given 12 months warranty on hardware.

 

As for ram I'm pretty sure it's 1866 or 2400 have to double check.

I'm not all into the shooter games so games would be more for like Forza Horizon and GTA V

[SkilledRebuilds]

3 minutes ago, Greek_United said:

Hi appreciate the reply and all the information extremely helpful

 

I was considering a 10th gen i3 but was a little out of my budget roughly $600aud ($464.64usd) the case is being given at no cost and am being given 12 months warranty on hardware.

 

As for ram I'm pretty sure it's 1866 or 2400 have to double check.

I'm not all into the shooter games so games would be more for like Forza Horizon and GTA V

Forza runs very well (optimized) and my i7 4790k 4.7Allcore with 4.4Cache and 2400Mhz cl11 does 110-130FPS'ish on GTAV before it taps out using Highest settings (advanced distances left stock) and 2xMSAA with a GTX070 at either 1080p or 1440p I forgot which res it was when benching it ages ago.

But the CPU does well in those titles.

[curiousmind34]

6 minutes ago, Greek_United said:

Hi appreciate the reply and all the information extremely helpful

 

I was considering a 10th gen i3 but was a little out of my budget roughly $600aud ($464.64usd) the case is being given at no cost and am being given 12 months warranty on hardware.

 

As for ram I'm pretty sure it's 1866 or 2400 have to double check.

I'm not all into the shooter games so games would be more for like Forza Horizon and GTA V

I would get this just because of the graphics card, the cpu is about the same as what you can get because of new pc's of the same price, but the graphics card is a really good deal in the current market.

[SkilledRebuilds]

2 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

It's 1866 since is 4th gen. 

I would get this just because of the graphics card, the cpu is about the same as what you can get because of new pc's of the same price, but the graphics card is a really good deal in the current market.

I have a 4th gen K skew, 2400Mhz (2800Mhz is also a thing for DDR3 but much more expensive/rare)

[curiousmind34]

Just now, SkilledRebuilds said:

I have a 4th gen K skew, 2400Mhz (2800Mhz is also a thing for DDR3 but much more expensive/rare)

That's interesting, for some reason I though ddr3 was below 2133 mhz and ddr4 was 2133 and above but I guess it's not.

[Greek_United]

10 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

 

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3 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

It's 1866 since is 4th gen. 

I would get this just because of the graphics card, the cpu is about the same as what you can get because of new pc's of the same price, but the graphics card is a really good deal in the current market.

Ok awesome helps to hear that as I didn't want to go overboard on price. Did a fair bit of searching around and prices are pretty crazy

[goldlemur33]

For the price I saw above, that seems like a pretty reasonable deal. My old rig was an i5 4690k and a GTX 960, and it's still capable of good framerates in non-cyberpunk games, so the 4790k and GTX 980 should put you in great shape for the time being. I'd checkout Gamers Nexus case reviews, but you definitely want something with good airflow - also make sure you orient the fans so they're blowing front->back and bottom->top.

[SkilledRebuilds]

Cbp2077 - CITY AREA Specifically.

Low Traffic = 50-60+ vsync in the city, but can still stutter in the markets on occasional sweeping camera movements.

NoVsync, 70-80FPS UnlockedFPS before it taps out.

 

Worse on Medium/High traffic.

Medium should provide 45-60fps vsync variable.

High is not great, 40-50fps variable with stuttering frequently enough to warrant dropping it down to Medium where its much more playable for the CPU loads to less intefere with the GPU usages/performance.

^with my 4.7Ghz OC and 2080ti (new build already bought but not built yet)

 

Not scientific here but just relative.

[Greek_United]

2 minutes ago, goldlemur33 said:

For the price I saw above, that seems like a pretty reasonable deal. My old rig was an i5 4690k and a GTX 960, and it's still capable of good framerates in non-cyberpunk games, so the 4790k and GTX 980 should put you in great shape for the time being. I'd checkout Gamers Nexus case reviews, but you definitely want something with good airflow - also make sure you orient the fans so they're blowing front->back and bottom->top.

Hi appreciate the reply, that's really helpful to know and will keep in mind the fan position and check out Nexus case reviews. Games will be more Forza Horizon, GTA, Fifa not really big on the whole shooter games.

[Greek_United]

I Just Realized i can reply to the post instead of having to do it individually to each persons reply so My Bad

Appreciate everyone's replies