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Hey guys.My H100i platinum is installed on the top of the case and because of the computer table I wasn't able to look at the effects of the corsair fans.

So I thought why not install them at a side if it's possible.

My case is TT View 91 TG RGB.

Will I have cooling issues if installed sideways?

There are 3 front 140mm fans.

I don't know I looked at the manual of the case there is possibility to install them sideways but I think behind motherboard l,which I dont want to.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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This is the possible positions in your case:

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If by sideways you mean like on the side panel - I have done this in my CoolerMaster Haf XM just cause, and it puts the radiator below the block/tubes so would cause bubbles of air to trap in the block - just make sure its mounted higher than the CPU block imho.  If its available to do in your case, as noted above

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50 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

If by sideways you mean like on the side panel - I have done this in my CoolerMaster Haf XM just cause, and it puts the radiator below the block/tubes so would cause bubbles of air to trap in the block - just make sure its mounted higher than the CPU block imho.  If its available to do in your case, as noted above

Hmm it would be in the same line as the pump,around same line maybe like 2-3 cm top/bottom from horizonal linr drawed from pump to radiator.

So that would be a bad idea?

Radiator must be on top?

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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3 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Hmm it would be in the same line as the pump,around same line maybe like 2-3 cm top/bottom from horizonal linr drawed from pump to radiator.

So that would be a bad idea?

Radiator must be on top?

Well

 

Must be is such a harsh word imho.  

 

Ive only had 1 time I mounted a radiator at the lowest point and had issues with air bubbles in the block.  The other times Ive done it Ive not had issues.  

 

It comes highly recommended and the reasons why are backed with numbers and science

 

If you do get air in the block you will likely hear a grinding noise, it will pass, rinse repeat which puts excess wear and tear on it.  Maybe not.

 

Im of the mind to try things out myself before following the herd - example this morning (look at those super sweet PSU's with a FX 8350, Radeon VII and HD 7850 - most people here would have a heart attack...me?  Its fine lol)

 

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8 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Well

 

Must be is such a harsh word imho.  

 

Ive only had 1 time I mounted a radiator at the lowest point and had issues with air bubbles in the block.  The other times Ive done it Ive not had issues.  

 

It comes highly recommended and the reasons why are backed with numbers and science

 

If you do get air in the block you will likely hear a grinding noise, it will pass, rinse repeat which puts excess wear and tear on it.  Maybe not.

 

Im of the mind to try things out myself before following the herd - example this morning (look at those super sweet PSU's with a FX 8350, Radeon VII and HD 7850 - most people here would have a heart attack...me?  Its fine lol)

 

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My friend; I've seen so many rigs with rad mounted at the side...

But fi it's really like you told me then I wouldn't risk it...

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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The problem is that the side panel is in equal line with MoBo  installation panel so I don't see the way how the radiator can be in higher line then the pump...it's impossible.

Look at the pic below...even 360 mm radiator is in the line with pump.

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Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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10 minutes ago, frozensun said:

The problem is that the side panel is in equal line with MoBo  installation panel so I don't see the way how the radiator can be in higher line then the pump...it's impossible.

Look at the pic below...even 360 mm radiator is in the line with pump.

rad.jpg

 

The top mounted radiator is the highest point for the GPU loop 

The side mounted radiator hoses and top of radiator are the highest point for the CPU loop

 

Optimally for air bubble issues you just dont want the top of the loop to be the block

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12 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

 

The top mounted radiator is the highest point for the GPU loop 

The side mounted radiator hoses and top of radiator are the highest point for the CPU loop

 

Optimally for air bubble issues you just dont want the top of the loop to be the block

my friend I don't understand you at all.

Should I install it at side view or not?

Do you think all the guys who have side mounted rad have bubbles issues?

I've seen so many installations like that,and even at the picture above.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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1 minute ago, frozensun said:

my friend I don't understand you at all.

Should I install it at side view or not?

Do you think all the guys who have side mounted rad have bubbles issues?

I've seen so many installations like that,and even at the picture above.

AHA!  I now understand - you mean on the side intake FOR a radiator but is inside the case (I didnt understand the case layout vs question till just now sorry)

 

Yes install away, there is no issue to worry about

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1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

AHA!  I now understand - you mean on the side intake FOR a radiator but is inside the case (I didnt understand the case layout vs question till just now sorry)

 

Yes install away, there is no issue to worry about

I meant,look at the picture where radiator is,there I would like to install...so any issues with that?

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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its fine as long as you use the upper two slots.

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Hmmm this is strange..I don't see holes for screws so I can mount radiator to this side...

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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1 minute ago, For Science! said:

its fine as long as you use the upper two slots.

what upper 2 slots,bro?

 

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what upper 2 slots,bro?

H100i is a 240 mm radiator right, the side has space for a 360 mm. So you could either use the upper 2 slots, or the lower 2 slots. You should use the upper two slots to maintain a portion of the radiator above the pump.

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On closer inspection of the schematic, I realise these mounts are for 140 mm fans/radiators, which would make it not possible for 120mm mounts unless they have closer rails.

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Just now, For Science! said:

On closer inspection of the schematic, I realise these mounts are for 140 mm fans/radiators, which would make it not possible for 120mm mounts unless they have closer rails.

Hmmm,where did you found out that?

it is possible..there are holes quite wide from eachother.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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2 minutes ago, frozensun said:

Hmmm,where did you found out that?

it is possible..there are holes quite wide from eachother.

Nevermind, I just got confused about something, but yes, my point still stands about using the upper 2 slots (instead of the lower 2).

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2 minutes ago, For Science! said:

Nevermind, I just got confused about something, but yes, my point still stands about using the upper 2 slots (instead of the lower 2).

really don't understand what upper 2 slots...can you somehow draw on the picture of the case (side panel)?

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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4 minutes ago, frozensun said:

really don't understand what upper 2 slots...can you somehow draw on the picture of the case (side panel)?

Green is upper 2 slot, pink is lower 2 slots. This is a 420 radiator, but the same concept applies for a 480 mm.

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1 minute ago, For Science! said:

Green is upper 2 slot, pink is lower 2 slots. This is a 420 radiator, but the same concept applies for a 480 mm.

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oh okay..thank you....but as I stated I don't see holes for screws where should I mount rad to the case...I think I'll need to ask TT about this type of installation.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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13 minutes ago, frozensun said:

oh okay..thank you....but as I stated I don't see holes for screws where should I mount rad to the case...I think I'll need to ask TT about this type of installation.

CA-1I9-00F1WN-00%20_49738ed49f24475aaa151ca98731d211.jpg

 

Somehow I think it isn't possible to do a side mount of the radiator, it looks like a pretty solid panel, so I guess its not a good idea.

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I asked at TT forums there are brackets for side radiator installation.

Only what is left for me to ask is about these bubbles.

Will I have any heating issues or problem with malfunctioning of pump when radiator is installed at a side?

bracket.png

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

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On 3/4/2021 at 3:14 PM, For Science! said:

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Somehow I think it isn't possible to do a side mount of the radiator, it looks like a pretty solid panel, so I guess its not a good idea.

looks like it is possible but I'm not sure if I'll get worse cooling performance when the radiator is installed sideways.

 

Please do not take offence for my apparent confusion or rudeness,it's not intent me to be like that,it's just my BPD,be nice to me,and I'll return twice better,be rude and usually I get easly pissed of...I'll try to help anyone here,as long as it's something I dealt with,and even if you think I'm rude or not polite,forgive me,  it's not me it's my BPD.

Thanks for understanding.

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2 hours ago, frozensun said:

I asked at TT forums there are brackets for side radiator installation.

Only what is left for me to ask is about these bubbles.

Will I have any heating issues or problem with malfunctioning of pump when radiator is installed at a side?

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It will likely be a little bit worse.

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