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Under the advice of LTT I upgraded my CPU to a Ryzen 5800X (full specifications below).

Idle, my CPU is 40-50°C.

However, whenever I run 'stress --cpu 16' my CPU goes up to 90°C () within 5 seconds and then stays there (as reported by XSensors).

I have a Corsair h80i v2 AIO (tier 2 cooler). Originally, I used the wrong AMD motherboard stand-offs and replaced these with the correct AM4 motherboard stand-offs. The cooler is installed in the rear of the case with the tubes at the bottom. I bought some Arctic silver 5 to replace the pre-applied thermal paste.

 

Could I have cleaned the CPU poorly when I changed the standoffs? It looked clean.

Could the screws on the CPU block be too loose? I didn't want to over-tighten them.

 

Motherboard wise, I'm using the MSI mortar Wi-Fi, running BIOS version '7C94v15' (the latest available BIOS).

I haven't changed anything except made the fan curves more extreme and turned XMP on.

I'm using Manjaro Nibia 20.2.1 GNOME edition with kernel 5.10.7-3.

 

Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor £409.99 @ AWD-IT
CPU Cooler Corsair H80i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £81.48 @ Ebuyer
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste £6.19 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £139.99 @ AWD-IT
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory £153.99 @ Scan.co.uk
Storage Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For £0.00
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 970 4 GB GAMING Video Card Purchased For £0.00
Case Corsair SPEC-01 ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For £0.00
Power Supply Corsair CXM 430 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For £0.00
Case Fan Xilence Performance C 57.9 CFM 120 mm Fan Purchased For £0.00
Case Fan Xilence Performance C 57.9 CFM 120 mm Fan Purchased For £0.00
Case Fan Corsair AF120 (2018) 52 CFM 120 mm Fan Purchased For £0.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £791.64
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-06 13:40 GMT+0000  

 

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2 minutes ago, RIG_ said:

I have a Corsair h80i v2 AIO (tier 2 cooler).

Even if it is tier 2 single fan AIOs are pretty bad.

Also that cpu runs hotter than 5900x sicne it has only 1 CXX (which is better than 2 on the 5900x) Also that cpu has the best single core performance in the world right now.

 

what i am saying is that your temps are expected.

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Test Rig.

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| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

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The screws holding the block on should be tightened all the way, the standoffs are sized such that it's not possible to overtighten them. 90*C under stress test doesn't sound unreasonable for that CPU paired with that cooler though. How does it fare under real-world load?

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9 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Even if it is tier 2 single fan AIOs are pretty bad.

Also that cpu runs hotter than 5900x sicne it has only 1 CXX (which is better than 2 on the 5900x) Also that cpu has the best single core performance in the world right now.

 

what i am saying is that your temps are expected.

The h80 is basically the performance of a hyper 212 which is barely good enough for a 5800x. So yeah not the right cooler.

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5 minutes ago, jaslion said:

The h80 is basically the performance of a hyper 212 which is barely good enough for a 5800x. So yeah not the right cooler.

I do not get why it is at tier 2 tho?

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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24 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

I do not get why it is at tier 2 tho?

Same honestly. Maybe because it's a decent cooler for certain itx cases? But then again that would make the tier list a bit odd.

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So the h80i v2 has 2x fans and is a double thickness radiator, I don't think I can return it now that it's been used so I'm stuck with it.

Is it worth purchasing better case fans / a better case and undervolting the CPU?

 

I don't want to cook the CPU, I will probably be using it for the next 10 years!

I heard they changed the safe temp range for the new 50xx series, what temp range would be considered safe?

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