Looking for recommendation

[Chiyawa]

Hi,

 

I'm looking for a good PSU with below criteria:

- Tier A from PSU list

- 850W and above (1000W preferred)

- at least 80+ Gold certified, Platinum preferred

- Budget not set, but going for USD 150

- RGB lighting optional

- Don't care if they have fan stop support

- Modular if possible, but non-modular or semi-modular is okay

- Thermaltake is my preferred choice, but I don't mind getting other brand

 

My use case:

- Ryzen 5 3600 (to upgrade to Ryzen 7 3700X or 3800X, or Ryzen 7 5700X)

- Vega 64 undervolt overclocked, On-chip power consumption is 330W (to upgrade to Radeon 6800XT or RTX3080, will going to overclock it)

- 4 3.5 inch HDD with varying capacity

- 2 2.5 inch SSD with varying capacity

- Motherboard is Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro WiFi

- 8 aRGB fans

- Currently uses air tower cooler, might upgrade to 360 AIO water cooling.

 

So far I couldn't hit anything with this criteria. Should I increase the budget? How much should I increase so I can meet the above criteria?

 

Regards,

Chiyawa

[tarfeef101]

Just go to PCPartPicker (or your local retailer), set your filters for efficiency rating and wattage rating, sort by price, and go up until you find one on the tier list. If it's under budget, great. If not, adjust your requirements or you budget. Not much else to it. I don't think anyone is going to do that for you, pricing is so region-specific, most people don't have the current pricing for any given region just memorized in their brain ready to save you the effort, sadly.

 

Also I don't wanna get into opinion wars, but you don't need 1000W, or even 850W really. You're allowed to want it, sure, but if you're having budget issues, that's a place you can save money. You decide what you value, so your call. But just letting you know you have that choice. 

[Chiyawa]

9 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

Just go to PCPartPicker (or your local retailer), set your filters for efficiency rating and wattage rating, sort by price, and go up until you find one on the tier list. If it's under budget, great. If not, adjust your requirements or you budget. Not much else to it. I don't think anyone is going to do that for you, pricing is so region-specific, most people don't have the current pricing for any given region just memorized in their brain ready to save you the effort, sadly.

 

Also I don't wanna get into opinion wars, but you don't need 1000W, or even 850W really. You're allowed to want it, sure, but if you're having budget issues, that's a place you can save money. You decide what you value, so your call. But just letting you know you have that choice. 

Yeah, I'll be upgrading my PC soon, so may need that extra horsepower.

 

Yeah, for PCPartPicker, quite often there are no price available, so it's hard to make an estimation. Furthermore, with the pandemic, shortages of electronics good, it's hard to get a rough idea on the price. They fluctuate a lot in recent years. Also, since the place I lived is in lockdown, I can't visit my local store.

[YourRandomForumGuy]

just go for an rm850x from corsair

[tarfeef101]

Just now, Chiyawa said:

Yeah, I'll be upgrading my PC soon, so may need that extra horsepower.

 

Yeah, for PCPartPicker, quite often there are no price available, so it's hard to make an estimation. Furthermore, with the pandemic, shortages of electronics good, it's hard to get a rough idea on the price. They fluctuate a lot in recent years. Also, since the place I lived is in lockdown, I can't visit my local store.

I'm running a 3090 and 5950x, both OCed on an EVGA 850W B3 right now. You're fine with under 1000. 

Also you're gonna buy your stuff from somewhere, right? Wherever that somewhere is, do the sort by price thing there!!! Yes, prices fluctuate. That's the ENTIRE REASON I said to do this. If you could just assume everything was at MRSP, and had the same pricing in all regions, then we could actually just recommend specific parts. It is because of those fluctuations and inconsistencies that we can't. Or at least I don't, apparently some people here are fine making sweeping assumptions about stock and price in your area.

[Chiyawa]

1 minute ago, YourRandomForumGuy said:

just go for an rm850x from corsair

I see. Thanks for suggesting the PSU.

 

Corsair PSU is quite expensive in my area, so it usually sits around USD 165 - USD 175. But it's still a good consideration.

[Elisis]

7 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

I'm running a 3090 and 5950x, both OCed on an EVGA 850W B3 right now.

Unfortunately anecdotal evidence is meaningless, so providing such an example is quite useless. 

[tarfeef101]

Just now, Elisis said:

Unfortunately anecdotal evidence is meaningless, so providing such an example is quite useless. 

I mean, I REALLY don't want to just google things for people, but you could google the power limits for the parts OP is using, and with the power of subtraction figure out that 850 - sum(all their parts) > 0, by a decent margin, even. 

[Elisis]

1 minute ago, tarfeef101 said:

I mean, I REALLY don't want to just google things for people

Better this than ending up misleading people with your shoddy 'evidence'.

[tarfeef101]

Just now, Elisis said:

Better this than ending up misleading people with your shoddy 'evidence'.

just had to be a jerk about it... my statement was correct. both my hardware config, and theirs are totally fine within 850w. if you don't want to believe my anecdotes, google the power consumptions and believe that instead. but, don't call my correct statement misleading, because it isn't. 

[Elisis]

Just now, tarfeef101 said:

don't call my correct statement misleading, because it isn't. 

I didn't. All I did was infer that using anecdotal evidence will inevitably end up with people being misled. That's how it works.

[Chiyawa]

15 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

I'm running a 3090 and 5950x, both OCed on an EVGA 850W B3 right now. You're fine with under 1000. 

Also you're gonna buy your stuff from somewhere, right? Wherever that somewhere is, do the sort by price thing there!!! Yes, prices fluctuate. That's the ENTIRE REASON I said to do this. If you could just assume everything was at MRSP, and had the same pricing in all regions, then we could actually just recommend specific parts. It is because of those fluctuations and inconsistencies that we can't. Or at least I don't, apparently some people here are fine making sweeping assumptions about stock and price in your area.

I see. I know 850W will be fine for me. Still, it won't hurt if I can acquire a 1000W PSU because of 2 reasons:

 

1. You have plenty of room to upgrade your system without the worry that your PSU couldn't cope up.

2. The PSU will stay cooler as you're not drawing a lot of power that almost reaching its capacity. Many PSU can still manage to stay cool by passive cooling even if the power consumption reaching 80%, and higher wattage means that at long run when degradation occurs, your PSU can still power your system.

 

Yeah, I'll be buying from somewhere else, as I live in Malaysia. I wanted to know how much should I set for the PSU. With uncertainty prices, many will take advantage to jack up the prices. If I know how much the PSU cost, I will know if someone is trying to cheat me.

[tarfeef101]

1 minute ago, Chiyawa said:

I see. I know 850W will be fine for me. Still, it won't hurt if I can acquire a 1000W PSU because of 2 reasons:

 

1. You have plenty of room to upgrade your system without the worry that your PSU couldn't cope up.

2. The PSU will stay cooler as you're not drawing a lot of power that almost reaching its capacity. Many PSU can still manage to stay cool by passive cooling even if the power consumption reaching 80%, and higher wattage means that at long run when degradation occurs, your PSU can still power your system.

 

Yeah, I'll be buying from somewhere else, as I live in Malaysia. I wanted to know how much should I set for the PSU. With uncertainty prices, many will take advantage to jack up the prices. If I know how much the PSU cost, I will know if someone is trying to cheat me.

1. yes 

2. also yes

like i said, it's a choice you can make, I just said what I did because many overestimate what they NEED, so I wanted to ensure you knew it was not required that you have so much wattage

 

also, I find googling "part_name MRSP" works pretty well  in the end, if you need a PSU, you're gonna have to pay market prices for them. so checking vs the MSRP will only serve to tell you how much prices are off vs normal, it won't magically create new stuff at MSRP for you to buy instead (sadly, that'd be great!). making relative comparisons between what is available is the best you can do, really. 

ofc if you have a working system and just are considering upgrading cause why not, then comparing prices to MSRP can be useful. however, you have to consider if prices are higher, why, and if those reasons will disappear anytime soon. in the US, for example, tariffs exist that are jacking prices up. if you don't expect those to go away, you should not expect prices to fall back to where they used to be. if prices have gone up due to temporarily higher demand and supply issues related to Covid, and you expect vaccines to mostly solve that, then maybe wait. but that's all stuff you have to deliberate about on your own. 

[Elisis]

8 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

1. You have plenty of room to upgrade your system without the worry that your PSU couldn't cope up.

2. The PSU will stay cooler as you're not drawing a lot of power that almost reaching its capacity. Many PSU can still manage to stay cool by passive cooling even if the power consumption reaching 80%, and higher wattage means that at long run when degradation occurs, your PSU can still power your system.

1. That's why you do research like a good little PC enthusiast

2. No. The PSU will dissipate the same percentage of system power give or take a percent or two at high load the majority of the time. Barely any PSUs stay cool passively with 80% consumption, and those that do are so overbuilt, so what are you on about? Wattage degradation is simply not a concern if you're running your PSU for less than 15 years, which is a pretty damn safe assumption.

[Chiyawa]

1 minute ago, Elisis said:

1. That's why you do research like a good little PC enthusiast

2. No. The PSU will dissipate the same percentage of system power give or take a percent or two at high load the majority of the time. Barely any PSUs stay cool passively with 80% consumption, and those that do are so overbuilt, so what are you on about? Wattage degradation is simply not a concern if you're running your PSU for less than 15 years, which is a pretty damn safe assumption.

Yeah, older PSU from Pentium 4 era is, well, degrade a lot that it lost almost 15% of its capacity in 5 years (granted it was a dirt cheap PSU that comes with the case), which causes my PC keep on tripping back then. Now of course the PSUs are very durable, but still, I'm not over with this fear just yet.

 

Ah, I mixed up again about the temperature. You are right. The PSU can stay passively cool if the load is at 20%. How silly of me. Sorry about that. Too many stuff to remember currently.