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STUPID expensive, and probably STUPID first time watercooling. Please help...criticize...anything.

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Budget (including currency): ~$3500

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Cyberpunk 2077

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I'm building from scratch. My current gaming rig/work PC is an Intel 9600K with a Radeon RX 580 that I'm lucky to get 30 FPS out of with Cyberpunk 2077. SOOOOOO, I'm pushing the limit on everything with the new build so that I can play on my brand new LG CX OLED. Most of the components have been purchased. I'm building over the next weeks/months, and everything can be RMA'd, so I would welcome any parts recommendations!!!

 

New Rig:

CPU: AMD 5600X (I debate whether I'll have better bragging rights with a heavily overclocked 5600X vs the 5900X. I have the budget to go up, but I see it as diminishing returns in gaming performance.)

GPU: ASUS Nvidia 3080 with EK waterblock (It has very slightly lower performance spec compared to other 3080 on paper, but the added value of not messing with warranty by self installing a waterblock gives me peace of mind)

MB: ASUS Crosshair VIII Hero (WIFI) X570

Cooler: EK Monoblock for Crosshair VIII Hero X570

Memory: 32gb GSkill Trident Z Neo DDR4 3600 CL:16

PSU: Seasonic Focus PX750 Platinum (I'm on the fence whether 750 is enough for a heavily overclocked CPU & GPU...May change to 850)

OS Drive: WD Black SN850 NVME 1tb

Mass Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2tb

Chassis: Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL

GPU Vertical Mount: Fractal Design Flex B-20 (I'm way up on the fence about this. 1: PCIe 3.0 cables with 4.0 components. 2: Will Fractal Design work in the Lian Li? 3: I don't have any sort of rig to test run prior to full system build to troubleshoot compatibility issues.)

Reservoir/Pump: EEK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11D XL D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi (This is turning into a bit of a problem because it is designed for 2-radiators, so I'm going to have to play with tubing layouts)

Radiators: 3-Hardware Labs Black Ice Nemesis 360TS (I could go thicker on all 3, but it's overkill already)

Fans: 10-EK Vardar EVO RGB 120mm (I really struggled to find a decent looking RGB fan with high static pressure that looked good in goth "push" and "pull" configuration. Please give me fan recommendations!!!)

Fittings: I really want to use Primochill VUE coolant, so I'm thinking I may have to purchase Primochill fittings. They look great, and have amazing color options, but they are PRICEY! (Please recommend alternatives)

Coolant: Primochill VUE (I know its controversial, but it looks SO GOOD! I'm willing to put in the elbow grease to prep the components and change the coolant probably every 6 months)

Tubing: I don't have a tube in mind right now. I figure all rigid PETG is about the same. Probably going to go with 13mm (5/8) OD.

Temperature Sensor / flow meter: Koolance SEN-FM18T10 Coolant Flow Meter with Temperature Sensor, 10K (I can't find any reviews for this model, but it looks like it should do a good job.)

 

This is my 6th PC build and first attempt at water cooling. Any help is going to be VERY much appreciated.

 

Thanks for checking this out, I will check back in when I start receiving components.

 

 

 

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I think it's pretty pointless to do a custom loop on hardware that isn't top of the line if all you are looking for is performance. You are going to drop a large amount of money on the loop you could have instead put to use on getting a better CPU and GPU. If you had a 5950x and 3090 it would be a different story. Unless you are a water cooling enthusiast who is more interesting in building the loop then go for it. That's just my 2cents though 

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Not an expert on watercooling but I would recommend a better CPU like a 5800X. Cyberpunk will benefit and it will keep up more with your 3080

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1 minute ago, Not Wills said:

There is a few modifications I would make I would go with a samsung ssd, maybe one of the 980 pros?, I would have gone for some chromx (i think its called) noctua fans instead. I would go with 850w unit for the psu, I would not go with the coolent, just regular water because of the gunk, but thats up to you if you want to put in the effort, also how many ram sticks is that 32gb, other than this its about perfect.

Why the Samsung over WD on the SSD? Everything I read had the WD at almost double the speeds.

I really do like the Chromax fans. I just wanted the rgb. I may reevaluate doing chromax with just rgb strips to highlight everything.

I'm doing 4x8 ram sticks.

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Just now, Avocheeseado said:

Not an expert on watercooling but I would recommend a better CPU like a 5800X. Cyberpunk will benefit and it will keep up more with your 3080

I considered this. It's just the price/performance on the 5800X is so bad. I could resell the 5600X and switch in the future if the 5800X price drops by like $100

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2 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I think it's pretty pointless to do a custom loop on hardware that isn't top of the line if all you are looking for is performance. You are going to drop a large amount of money on the loop you could have instead put to use on getting a better CPU and GPU. If you had a 5950x and 3090 it would be a different story. Unless you are a water cooling enthusiast who is more interesting in building the loop then go for it. That's just my 2cents though 

I appreciate the comment. I have really no use for that much CPU. All I am going to do is game on this system. No streaming, no editing, so the price bump for more cores doesn't really help me out. As to the 3090, the performance increase for double the price is like 10%. The extent of this loop is primarily for fun (more likely heartache) as well as overclocking potential.

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3 minutes ago, reelfishy said:

I have really no use for that much CPU. All I am going to do is game on this system. 

You sorta just answered yourself. Games are increasingly supporting more and more cores with better scaling as we have transitioned off the standard of quad cores. You would get noticeably better performance in games with a better CPU and faster RAM

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5 minutes ago, Not Wills said:

On the wan show linus said that samsung flash is quite a bit more reliable than anything else, noctua fans are really nice, personally i would go with them and slap some rgb strips in, or if you are not up for that you could always put corsair rgb fans in, This computer on paper sounds excellent.

I'll have to check out that video on Samsung flash, thanks! I like the corsair fans, except they are only pretty in the "push" configuration. If you have them "pulling" through a radiator the rgb ring is hidden, so the $30 is wasted.

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3 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

You sorta just answered yourself. Games are increasingly supporting more and more cores with better scaling as we have transitioned off the standard of quad cores. You would get noticeably better performance in games with a better CPU and faster RAM

From what I've gathered, AMD RAM pretty much hits its sweetspot at 3600. Anything above is just a minimal increase in performance for a significant $$ increase. As to future proofing the CPU, I figure that if games architecture starts requiring more cores in the future, I can pick up a discounted 5900X.

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10 minutes ago, Not Wills said:

good point.

So, I've currently settled on the EK Vardar RGB. They have better than average "claimed" static pressure of 3.16 mmh20, and they basically look identical whether in push or pull. $24.99/each

 

My VERY close 2nd is Noctua Chromax with lighting strips to show everything off; the problem with this is that my MB and case are both VERY black, so if I add 10-VERY black chromax fans...that's a lot of black. $22.90/each

 

I also considered the Cooler Master SickleFlow fans because of how they look, but they only claim 2.5 mmh20. $51/3 fans

 

I've really struggled with fan selection because my layout is going to be mixed push/pull orientation.

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1 hour ago, reelfishy said:

I considered this. It's just the price/performance on the 5800X is so bad. I could resell the 5600X and switch in the future if the 5800X price drops by like $100

if you are happy with the 5600X that is fine, but yeah the 5800X is in a wierd spot. If you want to go all out then a 5900X is the way to go.

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Well, here it is. Though I'm not so sure about the quality of this 3080.

PXL_20210115_050238009.jpg

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