Jeep Compass

[Aereldor]

8 hours ago, Bitter said:

I mean 100% you're right but also if everyone uses it as a taxi it must be pretty reliable and have a lot of internal space. I bet parts are cheap and everyone knows how to fix it too! Having extra room inside will absolutely come in handy at some point, but the other points for not liking it are valid. It looks like the bastard child of a Prius and a Chevy Uplander with some first gen Mazda CX9 mixed in.

Yeah, it's reliable as fuck, all the OG Toyotas here are, and this saves overpaying for a Fortuner. It's just the shit petrol fuel economy. Also, the pricing is downright unethical... What used to be a $12,000 car is now $26,000 and in 17 years they've changed precious little. Not to mention, $7,000 of that price increase came basically overnight in 2020 for no reason.

 

Unfortunately Toyota hasn't done much since 2004 besides rebadge terrible Suzukis and sell them at insane prices with false promises of toyota reliability. Honda's great but their only SUV is a $45,000 CR-V cvt

[Bitter]

Tough call man. At least you're being sensible about it and doing good research.

[Aereldor]

8 hours ago, Bitter said:

Tough call man. At least you're being sensible about it and doing good research.

Ha, thanks for the straightforward advice. Wanted to ask - what's your opinion on Nissan? I know the Renault partnership has changed their image, but besides the Jatco CVT transmission issues, are they still a reliable brand?

 

I'm comparing a Nissan Kicks to a Hyundai 'Creta', both manuals so the CVT issues don't matter.

[Bitter]

Jeep also uses the Jatco CVT stateside as does Nissan in many cars. When paired to a lower output 4 cylinder they're of acceptable lifespan and failure rate. When Nissan paired it with the VQ35DE V6, even de-tuned for it, the results were pretty craptacular. Even with lower power applications they're not a serviced transmission. If something goes wrong inside the dealer just replaces the whole unit, in a friends CVT in a 2012 Versa 1.6 (likely called something else in other markets) had some kind of speed sensor inside the trans fail defaulting it to a single ratio. Sensor is inside so they replaced the whole trans just at the very end of her 60,000 mile power train coverage. Had a Jatco CVT in a 2.4L Jeep Compass (same family!) with around 150-160,000 miles on it that just absolutely ate shit and died. It had some overheating fluid problems at highway speeds over 70mph so they just didn't go 70 for long periods and then around town sometimes it would lack acceleration, fluid changes usually resolved that. Then one day the car started stalling, they got it into us the next day and that trans was locking up so hard it was stalling the engine. You'd put it in gear and it would just slip squeak crunch slip slip slip and then give it a little gas and it would slowly slowly creep forward then WHAM felt like you just hit a brick wall and the engine would stall. Ended up doing a new trans in it since used or rebuilt wasn't available from anyone. It was an expensive trans too! Well I should say that used trans was available but they all had high miles and were almost as expensive as a new trans.