Posted October 7, 2020 Hello, I built my pc a bit over a year ago, and I've been experiencing very annoying things. About 3 months ago I had problems with my PC turning off and realized that to fix it I just had to put a little pressure on the Gpu's PCB to make sure the VRMs were touching the cooling pads. This worked but lately I've noticed that games, although they run fine 160-230 fps, they don't feel like they do. I feel micro-stutters, screen tearing, and even some games like Apex Legends run on 160 fps but feel like it's running 30 fps. These micro-stutters happen out of games too, while moving windows around, for example, they stutter. I've tried a lot of things, changing many settings on Windows 10, trying in-game settings but nothing seems to work. I might have a clue because my psu has been unreasonably loud, maybe it has to do with the psu or the voltage that is going into it, I'm not sure how to test that, but yeah, the psu fans are running like 100% on games. It could also be thermal throttling since my gpu, which I bought renewed came with rather bad cooling and reaches a peak of 84 - 85°C while playing games. I'm starting to get a bit frustrated especially because watching videos of these games on my phone at 60fps looks smoother than on my screen at 144hz. I might consider changing my gpu and psu if nothing works, I just hope that there's a way to make it better. These are my specs: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $299.99 @ B&H CPU Cooler Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM SE 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $169.99 @ Amazon Motherboard NZXT N7-Z37XT-W1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $103.83 @ MemoryC Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $103.83 @ MemoryC Storage Samsung 960 EVO 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $789.89 @ Amazon Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB Gaming OC 11G Video Card Case NZXT H500i ATX Mid Tower Case Power Supply NZXT E 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $108.78 @ Other World Computing Software Microsoft Office 365 Home (1 Year Subscription) Software $99.99 @ Newegg Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link Archer T2U USB 2.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $20.89 @ Staples Monitor Asus VG278Q 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $244.98 @ Newegg Keyboard SteelSeries Apex Pro RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard $199.99 @ Adorama Mouse SteelSeries Rival 600 Wired Optical Mouse $79.98 @ Amazon Headphones Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO Headphones $179.00 @ Amazon Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $2401.14 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-07 13:08 EDT-0400 Ignore the price, they were cheaper back then. Thank you all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Looks to me like the gpu is thermally throttleing as 84 to 86 is very high. You should run anygame and then when your gpu hits that temp look at msi afterburner to see if your clock speed drops significantly. Also, is your gpu and cpu overclocked as maybe it could be pulling too much power. You can check the power draw of the cpu and the gpu power draw by using furmark and xtu, or whatwever you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 6 minutes ago, Noob872 said: Looks to me like the gpu is thermally throttleing as 84 to 86 is very high. You should run anygame and then when your gpu hits that temp look at msi afterburner to see if your clock speed drops significantly. Also, is your gpu and cpu overclocked as maybe it could be pulling too much power. You can check the power draw of the cpu and the gpu power draw by using furmark and xtu, or whatwever you prefer. I might have to try this, but I do know that the cpu boosted itself from its base clock 3700 to 4400mHz, should I try turning cpu boost off? The cpu is pulling about 15-30W idle, it fluctuates a lot, sometimes recording spikes up to 80W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, TowersFlowers said: I might have to try this, but I do know that the cpu boosted itself from its base clock 3700 to 4400mHz, should I try turning cpu boost off? The cpu is pulling about 15-30W idle, it fluctuates a lot. no, cpu boost wont make a difference. Just did you overclcok it. What i mean by this is did you change frequency and wattage to the cpu. And ya try out what i suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author Just now, Noob872 said: no, cpu boost wont make a difference. Just did you overclcok it. What i mean by this is did you change frequency and wattage to the cpu. And ya try out what i suggested. I didn't overclock it, I will try and see if gpu clock goes down when it hits that 84C peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, TowersFlowers said: I didn't overclock it, I will try and see if gpu clock goes down when it hits that 84C peak. ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 First, you should limit the fps to 144. There is zero reason to run more. So that should get rid off most screan tearing. And second, is your Card at least 10° too hot. And when you had to press the PCB on the cooling pads? Something is wrong with it anyway. CPU i7 6700k MB MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author Ok I got some info, GPU clock at its highest was at 1873, it dipped down to 1785 and had lows of 1700mHz, I also recorded fb usage which was a super low percentage, although I'm still not sure what this means. Gpu usage while in-game stood at 97% and dropped down when I alt-tabbed out of the game, I think that's normal. The temps were 84C in a match, and 70-80C in the lobby, I was playing Cod MW btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 26 minutes ago, Noob872 said: ok I sent, the benchmarks, I might have to try this on Apex Legends where the problem seems the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 20 minutes ago, Praesi said: First, you should limit the fps to 144. There is zero reason to run more. So that should get rid off most screan tearing. And second, is your Card at least 10° too hot. And when you had to press the PCB on the cooling pads? Something is wrong with it anyway. Limiting the fps to 144 doesn't make it feel better, it still feels bad. Yeah, my gpu was making my screen turn off and I found a video of a guy on yt who said he had the same problem and that it was gpu sag so he used zipties to close the gaps between the thermal pads and the vram and it worked. I just pressed them together and it worked for me, hasn't turned off again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, TowersFlowers said: Limiting the fps to 144 doesn't make it feel better, it still feels bad. Yeah, my gpu was making my screen turn off and I found a video of a guy on yt who said he had the same problem and that it was gpu sag so he used zipties to close the gaps between the thermal pads and the vram and it worked. I just pressed them together and it worked for me, hasn't turned off again. Lety try something simple first. Use the tool DDU and install a new driver afterwards. CPU i7 6700k MB MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, TowersFlowers said: Ok I got some info, GPU clock at its highest was at 1873, it dipped down to 1785 and had lows of 1700mHz, I also recorded fb usage which was a super low percentage, although I'm still not sure what this means. Gpu usage while in-game stood at 97% and dropped down when I alt-tabbed out of the game, I think that's normal. The temps were 84C in a match, and 70-80C in the lobby, I was playing Cod MW btw. i think ir looks like a gpu tmep problme as these temps are way to high you should be under 80. Also is your gpu overlcocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 4 minutes ago, Noob872 said: i think ir looks like a gpu tmep problme as these temps are way to high you should be under 80. Also is your gpu overlcocked Yeah, it probably is, and no, I've never overclocked anything really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 8 minutes ago, Praesi said: Lety try something simple first. Use the tool DDU and install a new driver afterwards. Isn't this the same as an nvidia clean install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, TowersFlowers said: Isn't this the same as an nvidia clean install? No. It whipes your System clean of any Driver Information. CPU i7 6700k MB MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author Just now, Praesi said: No. It whipes your System clean of any Driver Information. Ok I will try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 2 hours ago, Praesi said: No. It whipes your System clean of any Driver Information. I'm about to do it but it tells me it can't because I have to reboot into safe mode, any ideas? I'm not that good at this stuff hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, TowersFlowers said: I'm about to do it but it tells me it can't because I have to reboot into safe mode, any ideas? I'm not that good at this stuff hehe. You dont have to do safemod. Just run it normal. CPU i7 6700k MB MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 15 minutes ago, Praesi said: You dont have to do safemod. Just run it normal. Ok I ran it, worked fine I suppose, It deleted my audio drivers and I forgot where to download those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 32 minutes ago, Praesi said: You dont have to do safemod. Just run it normal. I'll run another benchmark and let you know how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 7, 2020 Author 58 minutes ago, Praesi said: You dont have to do safemod. Just run it normal. Still haven't been able to get audio back, it says my headphones are unplugged even though they are. Any idea how to get it back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 8, 2020 4 hours ago, TowersFlowers said: Still haven't been able to get audio back, it says my headphones are unplugged even though they are. Any idea how to get it back? What about the GPU Driver? Check your Windows sound settings. Maybe something is disabled. CPU i7 6700k MB MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 8, 2020 Author 6 minutes ago, Praesi said: What about the GPU Driver? Check your Windows sound settings. Maybe something is disabled. Yeah, I did a windows update and that seemed to fix the audio. I ran some games and it felt better, less micro-stutters, the game even looked better for some reason. The only problem is this weird line artifact that goes up my screen when I move my screen sometimes. It looks a bit like tear but not quite, it's like a transparent line that goes up, not sure how to describe more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, TowersFlowers said: Yeah, I did a windows update and that seemed to fix the audio. I ran some games and it felt better, less micro-stutters, the game even looked better for some reason. The only problem is this weird line artifact that goes up my screen when I move my screen sometimes. It looks a bit like tear but not quite, it's like a transparent line that goes up, not sure how to describe more than that. Make a screenshot to see if its comming from the game or from the display. CPU i7 6700k MB MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 8, 2020 Author 1 hour ago, Praesi said: Make a screenshot to see if its comming from the game or from the display. I tried to make it happen again by playing the game, but it didn't happen. What happened instead was weird, this might just be overheating, because fps was smooth, it felt good but from time to time it felt a bit worse, as if there were less fps even though they stood still at 144fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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