Linux Subsystem for windows performance is pretty great

[mbntr]

 

I was ready to submit it to hwbot, but a mod told me that this stretching the it a bit too far, in fact it techincally complies with the geekbench 4 rules (CPU Z and Windows 10, at least for post skylake intel CPUs), but he said that is would mess up the database.

So here it is, the Linux subsystem for windows performs as well as native linux

and native linux is way faster than windows 10, my same CPU (i5 8600k@5.0GHz) reached 25279 points in windows 10 in the same benchmark!

And by the way, Cinebench runs on wine perfectly fine 

and that is about 5 points lower than on windows 10, I tried CPUz with wine but it didn't display the CPU clock speed 

[Nayr438]

28 minutes ago, mbntr said:

And by the way, Cinebench runs on wine perfectly fine

Your results would be invalid. Just because a application runs on Wine doesn't mean it supports every feature a application is taking advantage of.

 

Even if you ran a native benchmark on both Windows and Linux, you couldn't use them as a direct comparison. You have introduced way to many variables, and the benchmark is no longer equal.

 

On another note, Microsoft actually supports a form of native DirectX under WSL. Vulkan and OpenGL also get translated into DirectX. So once again your results would be invalid if your comparing it to Native Linux.

 

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-heart-linux/

 

And no Microsoft has no plans to release DirectX for Linux outside of its proprietary WSL Container. This also isn't the only thing proprietary in WSL, it holds many secrets with more to come.

[Radium_Angel]

24 minutes ago, mbntr said:

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This is interesting. I have a Gigabyte B450 with 16GB RAM, and an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 and my results under Ubuntu are terrible compared to yours (826/4877) does GB just measure CPU power or does GPU come into play?

[mbntr]

1 minute ago, Radium_Angel said:

This is interesting. I have a Gigabyte B450 with 16GB RAM, and an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 and my results under Ubuntu are terrible compared to yours (826/4877) does GB just measure CPU power or does GPU come into play?

don't worry, you are using Geekbench 5, I used 4 because i'm more familiar with it.

on geekbench 5 I get 1442/6735, but GB5 is a bit bias against intel

[mbntr]

13 minutes ago, Nayr438 said:

Your results would be invalid. Just because a application runs on Wine doesn't mean it supports every feature a application is taking advantage of.

On another note, Microsoft actually supports a form of native DirectX under WSL. Vulkan and OpenGL also get translated into DirectX. So once again your results would be invalid if your comparing it to Native Linux.

 

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directx-heart-linux/

 

And no Microsoft has no plans to release DirectX for Linux outside of its proprietary WSL Container. This also isn't the only thing proprietary in WSL, it holds many secrets with more to come.

Neither Geekbench nor cinebench use DirectX, I didn't use any form of GPU rendering.

As of AVX support I don't actually know if wine supports AVX or AVX2, but R15 doesn't use AVX (r20 does though).

Actually, I should try

[.Apex.]

23 minutes ago, mbntr said:

Neither Geekbench nor cinebench use DirectX, I didn't use any form of GPU rendering.

As of AVX support I don't actually know if wine supports AVX or AVX2, but R15 doesn't use AVX (r20 does though).

Actually, I should try

Haven't experimented with WSL much yet, but can I ask how were you able to get GUI? or were you using Geekbench command line tool?

[mbntr]

18 minutes ago, Syn. said:

Haven't experimented with WSL much yet, but can I ask how were you able to get GUI? or were you using Geekbench command line tool?

I used the CLI, you can install a desktop enviroment, but why would you

After completing the run it gives you a link that you can open on any browser

[GoodBytes]

On 9/24/2020 at 9:05 AM, Syn. said:

Haven't experimented with WSL much yet, but can I ask how were you able to get GUI? or were you using Geekbench command line tool?

Official GUI support is coming. Microsoft teased it a few times, but once released, expect that those who join the Insider program to enjoy it first, before being officially released. So sometime next year, is what I expect.

 

In the mean time, you can use a xServer for Windows.

My personal recommendation is X410, it's not free, but inexpensive at 10$ (https://x410.dev/) It has been specifically designed for WSL, works with WSL1 and WSL2. It is also high-DPI aware. So if you has your Display Scaling above 100%, everything will continue to work fine. Just install and execute. You have to do an export command under WSL (which I recommend to setup as startup when you start a WSL session (lots of tutorials online)) so that you don't need to execute it each time, and you are done. Easiest solution.

That said, I have not seen any update of it for a while. Probably because Microsoft announced its coming with native GUI support solution.

 

Lots of people receive online: XMing, but this is really because it is very old, and for a while was the only one. It is clunky, and never been updated since ages.

VcXsrv is what a recommend as an alternative. It works better, but not as well as X410 in my experience, but free, and designed to work for other things outside of WSL, like a VM. And also, it is actively supported.

 

Note: In the case you don't know, WSL1 and WSL2 works drastically differently.

• WSL1 passes through a translation layer. As a result, it has limitations. For example, if you plan to use Docker, it won't work. Linux programs will get a performance drop due to the translation layer. That said, you have the fastest disk access, and no performance drop on the system when enabled.
   
• WSL2 uses a lightweight version of Hyper-V that is integrated in it, and runs a customized kernel of Linux by Microsoft worked in close partnership with Canonical (Ubuntu). This allows for significant better compatibility. Docker works perfectly well. Downside is that you have a notable disk access performance drops if your files that you are accessing under WSL are under Windows. Best to keep everything under Linux. Additionally, as you enable Hyper-V, your system will have a performance drop, even if you don't run WSL. Nothing huge, but it is there. You'll see the most in benchmarks. Gaming I don't know... I have a Core i7 930 6GB of RAM... 11 old system.. So maybe the performance impact will be even less on a system of this area. But just wanted to share.

Yes, you can switch back and forth between WSL1 and 2. No re-install of your WSL environment. You have a command to switch and upgrade/downgrade your WSL distro between each versions.