Ryzen 3500x

[WindYT]

The 3500x is a Chinese only cpu, would it be able to work in motherboards such as a gigabyte b450m ds3h?

And would my lga 1151 cooler master hyper 212 evo be able to fit an am4 board?

[Navy_Dragon]

I ran a 3500 on a Gigabyte A320M A m.2, and am pretty sure that, the 3500X should not have any problem running on a B450m ds3h.

Not sure about the cooler, but according to me, the two sockets have different mounts, so if you have a separate mount that came with the cooler, then it should work.

[jaslion]

Yes it will work. Just look at the support list and make sure it is ryzen 3000 ready. Do keep in mind I do not advise a 6 core with no smt. You can look at the 6 core i5's that have issues in a fair few games with stuttering and being maxed out 100%. If you can either get a 3300x or 3600 both will fare better than that cpu.

 

Unless you get a am4 mounting hardware kit (more expensive than the cooler due to shipping usually) then no it will not fit.

[WindYT]

Just now, jaslion said:

Yes it will work. Just look at the support list and make sure it is ryzen 3000 ready. Do keep in mind I do not advise a 6 core with no smt. You can look at the 6 core i5's that have issues in a fair few games with stuttering and being maxed out 100%. If you can either get a 3300x or 3600 both will fare better than that cpu.

 

Unless you get a am4 mounting hardware kit (more expensive than the cooler due to shipping usually) then no it will not fit.

Well I currently have a quad core i5 7600k that has been struggling on games i play as of recent so this is a worthy upgrade for me.

[WindYT]

2 minutes ago, Navy_Dragon said:

I ran a 3500 on a Gigabyte A320M A m.2, and am pretty sure that, the 3500X should not have any problem running on a B450m ds3h.

Not sure about the cooler, but according to me, the two sockets have different mounts, so if you have a separate mount that came with the cooler, then it should work.

i just did a little bit of research, the 212 evo has an amd/intel bracket and im currently using an intel bracket so. 

[jaslion]

Just now, WindYT said:

Well I currently have a quad core i5 7600k that has been struggling on games i play as of recent so this is a worthy upgrade for me.

Thing is the problem you have with your i5 already is happening and has been happening for a while now with the 6 core i5's. Which means it's the same for ryzen too. So if you can get a 3600 or a 3300x both will be better. Especially with the new consoles around the corner 6 core will get past by quickly.

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, WindYT said:

i just did a little bit of research, the 212 evo has an amd/intel bracket and im currently using an intel bracket so. 

Yes but it needs to have the am4 compatible bracket. So unless yours has it it will not fit. It will have amd brackets for am2 and am3 but not am4 if it was made before am4 existed.

[minibois]

15 minutes ago, WindYT said:

The 3500x is a Chinese only cpu

Pretty sure I have seen it on Indian and Bangladesh markets too. I think it's just Asia exclusive.

15 minutes ago, WindYT said:

would it be able to work in motherboards such as a gigabyte b450m ds3h?

Yes, it says so on the QVL: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-cpu

15 minutes ago, WindYT said:

And would my lga 1151 cooler master hyper 212 evo be able to fit an am4 board?

Only if you have the AM4 bracket, which it might not have come with; considering you have an 7600K.

 

Personally I would suggest a Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 3 3300X over the 3500X though.

The 3600 if it is not significantly more, the 3300X if it's quite a bit less.

[WindYT]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Thing is the problem you have with your i5 already is happening and has been happening for a while now with the 6 core i5's. Which means it's the same for ryzen too. So if you can get a 3600 or a 3300x both will be better. Especially with the new consoles around the corner 6 core will get past by quickly.

ive looked at benchmarks comparing the 3500x to the 3600 and its only like 5% less in performance and considering i still rock a quad core i5 its still an upgrade for me. I still play in 1080p so it is perfectly fine for me

[WindYT]

1 minute ago, minibois said:

Pretty sure I have seen it on Indian and Bangladesh markets too.

Yes, it says so on the QVL: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-cpu

Only if you have the AM4 bracket, which it might not have come with; considering you have an 7600K.

 

Personally I would suggest a Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 3 3300X over the 3500X though.

The 3600 if it is not significantly more, the 3300X if it's quite a bit less.

I do alot of multitasking so the extra cores imo would help me

[Aereldor]

I know the 3500 is exclusive to the Asian market, basically a lower-binned 3600 with the hyperthreading disabled, but sold for absurdly low prices. I've seen it for <$100 in India

[minibois]

Just now, WindYT said:

I do alot of multitasking so the extra cores imo would help me

That would make the 3300X and 3600 both a better choose in my opinion.

3500X: 6 cores, 6 threads.

3300X: 4 cores, 8 threads.

3600: 6 cores, 12 threads.

 

Considering that the 3300X is faster in single-core speeds than a 3500X and has more threads (what programs actually run on), it would be a better options than the 3500X in general.

The 3600 of course has more cores and threads than a 3500X, so that is a great choice either way.

 

I'm still mainly an AMD fan, because you can get pretty cheap boards to run the CPU's on, but an i5 10400(F) is not a bad choice either; similar to a 3600.

It does require a more expensive board to run RAM at over 2666Mhz, but the advantage would be knowing the cooler will just fit with the current mounting hardware.

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, WindYT said:

ive looked at benchmarks comparing the 3500x to the 3600 and its only like 5% less in performance and considering i still rock a quad core i5 its still an upgrade for me. I still play in 1080p so it is perfectly fine for me

Yes that is true but what I am saying is not that. What I am saying is that just like your i5 is now hitting 100% in games and having issues. So is the 3500x and any other 6core that does not have smt (the 3600 is a 6core with smt so a 6 core 12 thread cpu).

 

There are plenty of games out there that have a 3500x at 100% usage and that have stutters due to it the moment windows does a thing or literally anything else needs the cpu for a milisecond. This is why I do not advice you to purchase the cpu as it is already showing that it is obsolete in a fair few games.

 

Here is a scenario: say a new game comes out on ps5 and xbox series x in january. That game will be able to use many cores as the new consoles are 8core/16thread. Which would mean that a current 6 core will be overwhelmed as there would be no reason not to allow the game to use all cores fully compared to a 12threaded cpu where there would still be some headroom for more cpu usage. You will once again be in the exact same situation and trouble as with your 7600k in not even 2months time and this will be a trend the moment the new consoles are around.

 

I am just trying to avoid you making a bad purchase and having issues immediately after/soon after.

[WindYT]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Yes that is true but what I am saying is not that. What I am saying is that just like your i5 is now hitting 100% in games and having issues. So is the 3500x and any other 6core that does not have smt (the 3600 is a 6core with smt so a 6 core 12 thread cpu).

 

There are plenty of games out there that have a 3500x at 100% usage and that have stutters due to it the moment windows does a thing or literally anything else needs the cpu for a milisecond. This is why I do not advice you to purchase the cpu as it is already showing that it is obsolete in a fair few games.

 

Here is a scenario: say a new game comes out on ps5 and xbox series x in january. That game will be able to use many cores as the new consoles are 8core/16thread. Which would mean that a current 6 core will be overwhelmed as there would be no reason not to allow the game to use all cores fully compared to a 12threaded cpu where there would still be some headroom for more cpu usage. You will once again be in the exact same situation and trouble as with your 7600k in not even 2months time and this will be a trend the moment the new consoles are around.

 

I am just trying to avoid you making a bad purchase and having issues immediately after/soon after.

I seen what you mean in the first paragraph, its just i have 260 bucks on hand right now, and i dont think i can go a week without my pc bc im selling a cpu LMAO, i still have to upgrade the cpu/mobo

[WindYT]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Yes that is true but what I am saying is not that. What I am saying is that just like your i5 is now hitting 100% in games and having issues. So is the 3500x and any other 6core that does not have smt (the 3600 is a 6core with smt so a 6 core 12 thread cpu).

 

There are plenty of games out there that have a 3500x at 100% usage and that have stutters due to it the moment windows does a thing or literally anything else needs the cpu for a milisecond. This is why I do not advice you to purchase the cpu as it is already showing that it is obsolete in a fair few games.

 

Here is a scenario: say a new game comes out on ps5 and xbox series x in january. That game will be able to use many cores as the new consoles are 8core/16thread. Which would mean that a current 6 core will be overwhelmed as there would be no reason not to allow the game to use all cores fully compared to a 12threaded cpu where there would still be some headroom for more cpu usage. You will once again be in the exact same situation and trouble as with your 7600k in not even 2months time and this will be a trend the moment the new consoles are around.

 

I am just trying to avoid you making a bad purchase and having issues immediately after/soon after.

but ill take a look into it rn

[Belac F]

4 minutes ago, WindYT said:

ive looked at benchmarks comparing the 3500x to the 3600 and its only like 5% less in performance and considering i still rock a quad core i5 its still an upgrade for me. I still play in 1080p so it is perfectly fine for me

At 1080p you will be pushing out more frames, therefore it would not be easier on the cpu, if anything it might be a little bit harder. With that being said, I use an i5 8400 for gaming and I don't notice the lack of hyperthreading. On paper it should, but I don't see it and I game at 1080p 144hz. what is the price difference? I'd say if you need to save for little longer and get the 3600 that is better in the long run, but I don't thinik you'll be disapointed with the 3500x.

[Belac F]

8 minutes ago, minibois said:

I'm still mainly an AMD fan, because you can get pretty cheap boards to run the CPU's on, but an i5 10400(F) is not a bad choice either; similar to a 3600.

It does require a more expensive board to run RAM at over 2666Mhz, but the advantage would be knowing the cooler will just fit with the current mounting hardware.

10400 is really good value right now. (for some reason PC part picker shows it as less than the f variant) 180 bucks US for 6 cores 12 threads. You might be able to find a motherboard for a good deal to go with it.

[WindYT]

11 minutes ago, Belac F said:

At 1080p you will be pushing out more frames, therefore it would not be easier on the cpu, if anything it might be a little bit harder. With that being said, I use an i5 8400 for gaming and I don't notice the lack of hyperthreading. On paper it should, but I don't see it and I game at 1080p 144hz. what is the price difference? I'd say if you need to save for little longer and get the 3600 that is better in the long run, but I don't thinik you'll be disapointed with the 3500x.

probably gonna end up getting the 3600 mainly for the reason of i play tarkov and its super cpu intensive in big gunfights

[WindYT]

15 minutes ago, minibois said:

That would make the 3300X and 3600 both a better choose in my opinion.

3500X: 6 cores, 6 threads.

3300X: 4 cores, 8 threads.

3600: 6 cores, 12 threads.

 

Considering that the 3300X is faster in single-core speeds than a 3500X and has more threads (what programs actually run on), it would be a better options than the 3500X in general.

The 3600 of course has more cores and threads than a 3500X, so that is a great choice either way.

 

I'm still mainly an AMD fan, because you can get pretty cheap boards to run the CPU's on, but an i5 10400(F) is not a bad choice either; similar to a 3600.

It does require a more expensive board to run RAM at over 2666Mhz, but the advantage would be knowing the cooler will just fit with the current mounting hardware.

Yea I am probably gonna end up selling my cpu/mobo for that extra 100 for the 3600

[WindYT]

17 minutes ago, minibois said:

That would make the 3300X and 3600 both a better choose in my opinion.

3500X: 6 cores, 6 threads.

3300X: 4 cores, 8 threads.

3600: 6 cores, 12 threads.

 

Considering that the 3300X is faster in single-core speeds than a 3500X and has more threads (what programs actually run on), it would be a better options than the 3500X in general.

The 3600 of course has more cores and threads than a 3500X, so that is a great choice either way.

 

I'm still mainly an AMD fan, because you can get pretty cheap boards to run the CPU's on, but an i5 10400(F) is not a bad choice either; similar to a 3600.

It does require a more expensive board to run RAM at over 2666Mhz, but the advantage would be knowing the cooler will just fit with the current mounting hardware.

And warzone also likes to eat my cpu for breakfast, im most likely gonna get the 3600x or try to scrape by to MAYBE get a 3700x

[minibois]

4 minutes ago, Belac F said:

10400 is really good value right now. (for some reason PC part picker shows it as less than the f variant) 180 bucks US for 6 cores 12 threads. You might be able to find a motherboard for a good deal to go with it.

180 USD, also known at "the price the Ryzen 5 3600 kinda hovered around for the past half year, before... y'know the hike":

So it's mainly that, which makes the 10400(F) (<- depending on the price of the F vs. non-F variant) a good choice now.

[minibois]

2 minutes ago, WindYT said:

Yea I am probably gonna end up selling my cpu/mobo for that extra 100 for the 3600

Just now, WindYT said:

And warzone also likes to eat my cpu for breakfast, im most likely gonna get the 3600x or try to scrape by to MAYBE get a 3700x

A 3600X would probably do very well in Warzone.

My Ryzen 7 1700 (older, but more cores) does very well in that game.

 

You could get a 3600X now and if you really want more cores, just wait a bit for Ryzen 4000 to release and snag a 3700x/3800x (whichever presents itself for the best price) on the second hand market.

[WindYT]

Just now, minibois said:

A 3600X would probably do very well in Warzone.

My Ryzen 7 1700 (older, but more cores) does very well in that game.

 

You could get a 3600X now and if you really want more cores, just wait a bit for Ryzen 4000 to release and snag a 3700x/3800x (whichever presents itself for the best price) on the second hand market.

Well I have said "Ill wait for the next generation" for the past 3 years so now seems like a very good time to upgrade my pc as the 3000 series cards are starting to come out

[WindYT]

2 minutes ago, minibois said:

A 3600X would probably do very well in Warzone.

My Ryzen 7 1700 (older, but more cores) does very well in that game.

 

You could get a 3600X now and if you really want more cores, just wait a bit for Ryzen 4000 to release and snag a 3700x/3800x (whichever presents itself for the best price) on the second hand market.

Like I said im still rolling with an i5 7600k and a GTX 1060

[minibois]

7 minutes ago, WindYT said:

Well I have said "Ill wait for the next generation" for the past 3 years so now seems like a very good time to upgrade my pc as the 3000 series cards are starting to come out

Yeah I meant more like "get a 3600 now, you'll be happy with it" with a very light "but if you still want more performance/cores; wait a bit until Ryzen 4000 is out for a cheap Ryzen 7 3700X on the second hand market".