What ram to get?

[Razer7]

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X

Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite

 

Thinking about upgrading to be ready for the new 3k gpus.

Any recommendations to what ram would be a good match with the 3800x?

[Mateyyy]

You're upgrading to a 3800X? What for, just gaming?

[AndrewZScorpion]

What’s your budget?

[Helpful Tech Witch]

1 minute ago, Razer7 said:

Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X

Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite

 

Thinking about upgrading to be ready for the new 3k gpus.

Any recommendations to what ram would be a good match with the 3800x?

More info would be helpful. What ram do you have now?

[Razer7]

24 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

You're upgrading to a 3800X? What for, just gaming?

Im upgrading to the 3800x so Im looking for ram that will work well with that. Will keep using my 1080ti for now but thinking about getting a 3080. Budget is about 1100$ for ram,cpu and motherboard but....I prefer to not spend that much ofc Thoughts on mhz and cl?

 

Edit: Its for gaming most of the time. Both old outdated games and newest AAA titles.

[Mateyyy]

8 minutes ago, Razer7 said:

Im upgrading to the 3800x so Im looking for ram that will work well with that. Will keep using my 1080ti for now but thinking about getting a 3080. Budget is about 1100$ for ram,cpu and motherboard but....I prefer to not spend that much ofc Thoughts on mhz and cl?

 

Edit: Its for gaming most of the time. Both old outdated games and newest AAA titles.

Depends on how much you're looking to spend. Ideally you'd go for something like a 3200 CL14 Samsung B-die kit and overclock it, but realistically a bog standard 3600 CL16 kit will net pretty much the same performance in the real world.

 

For gaming though I'd get a 10600K or wait for Zen 3. Or if you're set on buying now and going AMD, just get a 3700X.

[Razer7]

9 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Depends on how much you're looking to spend. Ideally you'd go for something like a 3200 CL14 Samsung B-die kit and overclock it, but realistically a bog standard 3600 CL16 kit will net pretty much the same performance in the real world.

 

For gaming though I'd get a 10600K or wait for Zen 3. Or if you're set on buying now and going AMD, just get a 3700X.

Thx

[Asthereal]

1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

Depends on how much you're looking to spend. Ideally you'd go for something like a 3200 CL14 Samsung B-die kit and overclock it, but realistically a bog standard 3600 CL16 kit will net pretty much the same performance in the real world.

 

For gaming though I'd get a 10600K or wait for Zen 3. Or if you're set on buying now and going AMD, just get a 3700X.

Thing with the 10600K is, however good it is as a gaming CPU, its platform doesn't yet support PCIe 4.0 yet.

So if you definitely want to upgrade to RTX 3080, wait for release and testing, so you'll know whether it will be bottlenecked by having only PCIe 3.0.

If the 3080 is still fine on PCIe 3.0, Intel might be the best match, so you definitely don't get bottlenecked at the CPU side of things.

 

But I love AMD, and would recommend 3600 CL16 or 17 for that. If you wany 32GB in 2x16 (like me) and just want your XMP to work, Gigabyte might not be your friend. They don't have many of those kits on their QVL. Asus and MSI do have a number of those. If you're going 16GB in 2x8, I think you'll find options at any of the big four. For Ryzen, going beyond 3600 isn't really worth it anyway, as the infinity fabric won't clock much higher than 1800 anyway.

 

I'd say: choose your motherboard first, then check QVL. No good kits on there? Go to your second choice motherboard and check that QVL.

[Mateyyy]

44 minutes ago, Asthereal said:

Thing with the 10600K is, however good it is as a gaming CPU, its platform doesn't yet support PCIe 4.0 yet.

So if you definitely want to upgrade to RTX 3080, wait for release and testing, so you'll know whether it will be bottlenecked by having only PCIe 3.0.

Nvidia did their testing on a 10900K, and also on that note:

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Will customers find a performance degradation on PCIE 3.0?

System performance is impacted by many factors and the impact varies between applications. The impact is typically less than a few percent going from a x16 PCIE 4.0 to x16 PCIE 3.0. CPU selection often has a larger impact on performance.We look forward to new platforms that can fully take advantage of Gen4 capabilities for potential performance increases.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/ilhao8/nvidia_rtx_30series_you_asked_we_answered/

[Asthereal]

2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Nvidia did their testing on a 10900K

Nvidia wants to sell cards. Of course they would test in such a way that Intel systems show awesome performance.

Intel is still market leader, and if Intel users don't buy the new cards, Nvidia is in trouble.

 

I would still wait for testing by independent sources. The PCIe 4.0 thing might still matter in your choice between AMD and Intel.

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, Asthereal said:

Nvidia wants to sell cards. Of course they would test in such a way that Intel systems show awesome performance.

Intel is still market leader, and if Intel users don't buy the new cards, Nvidia is in trouble.

 

I would still wait for testing by independent sources. The PCIe 4.0 thing might still matter in your choice between AMD and Intel.

We'll see, but keep in mind that a 2080Ti barely saturated the bandwidth of PCIe 3.0 8x. It's not like we were already on the brink of PCIe 3.0 being a bottleneck to say that the next-gen GPUs will definitely require PCIe 4.0 to run properly.

Actual reviews are obviously what people should listen to, not manufacturers' words and cherry picked benchmarks.

[Asthereal]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

We'll see, but keep in mind that a 2080Ti barely saturated the bandwidth of PCIe 3.0 8x. It's not like we were already on the brink of PCIe 3.0 being a bottleneck to say that the next-gen GPUs will definitely require PCIe 4.0 to run properly.

Actual reviews are obviously what people should listen to, not manufacturers' words and cherry picked benchmarks.

True. Perhaps it's not a big deal, but the fact that it might be, in my opinion, is worth the wait for proper reviews. Shouldn't be long anyway.

[Razer7]

Hmm good to know. Yeah I was thinking about getting a 32 gb kit. Deffinetly need to spend more time before ordering anything. But the way I see it I cant go wrong with a AMD. Have been using Intel for years but I cant really justify the bias I have towards AMD anymore. Both are doing a pretty good job. Thanks for the input!