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Interesting behavior after delidding

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I'm witnessing an interesting behavior after delidding my Intel Core i7 8086K. Before delidding my CPU's all-core turbo was 4,3 GHz while having at max 95 Watts of power usage. Now when I run for example Cinebench R20, it drains about 115 Watts from the wall while the all-core turbo is now 4,6 GHz. Strangely enough, I didn't overclock it in any way.

I'm not going crazy about this, because my temps are now at max 50 °C during 100% load. But still, it is quite interesting...or not.

CPU: Intel Core i7 8086K, Delidded with Der8auer Custom Nickel-Copper IHS and Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra CPU Cooling: Scythe Ninja 5 with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Taichi RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Predator DDR4 3200 MHz 15-17-17-36 GPU: Gainward RTX 2080 Phoenix GS with Raijintek Morpheus II Core Black Heatpipe VGA Cooler, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste and 2x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4T Pure Black TG Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Samsung 970 EVO 500GB, Seagate ST4000DM 4TB HDD, Toshiba HDWD240 4TB HDD PSU: SilentiumPC Supremo FM2 Gold 750W Case Cooling: 6x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Keyboard: Corsair Strafe Mechanical Keyboard Mouse: Trust GXT845 Tural Display: Sharp LC-50LD265E Operating System: Windows 10

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16 minutes ago, H6NS said:

Hello,

I'm witnessing an interesting behavior after delidding my Intel Core i7 8086K. Before delidding my CPU's all-core turbo was 4,3 GHz while having at max 95 Watts of power usage. Now when I run for example Cinebench R20, it drains about 115 Watts from the wall while the all-core turbo is now 4,6 GHz. Strangely enough, I didn't overclock it in any way.

I'm not going crazy about this, because my temps are now at max 50 °C during 100% load. But still, it is quite interesting...or not.

That's really nice results. Good job.

Looks like the cpu even on auto, likes them lower temps!

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6 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

That's really nice results. Good job.

Looks like the cpu even on auto, likes them lower temps!

Do you think that it overclocked itself due to the lower temps?

CPU: Intel Core i7 8086K, Delidded with Der8auer Custom Nickel-Copper IHS and Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra CPU Cooling: Scythe Ninja 5 with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Taichi RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Predator DDR4 3200 MHz 15-17-17-36 GPU: Gainward RTX 2080 Phoenix GS with Raijintek Morpheus II Core Black Heatpipe VGA Cooler, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste and 2x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4T Pure Black TG Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Samsung 970 EVO 500GB, Seagate ST4000DM 4TB HDD, Toshiba HDWD240 4TB HDD PSU: SilentiumPC Supremo FM2 Gold 750W Case Cooling: 6x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Keyboard: Corsair Strafe Mechanical Keyboard Mouse: Trust GXT845 Tural Display: Sharp LC-50LD265E Operating System: Windows 10

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1 minute ago, H6NS said:

Do you think that it overclocked itself due to the lower temps?

Yes,AMD CPUs do that too.

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What were the temps before the delid? Probably was throttling.

 

Mobo might have optimizations enabled by default but it could not do 4.6 all core due to temps.

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1 minute ago, H6NS said:

Do you think that it overclocked itself due to the lower temps?

Yes of course.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Yes,AMD CPUs do that too.

My Geothermal loop, made my 2700X on all auto, boost all core to 4300mhz at idle. Was crazy as F.

The load frequency was unchanged until raising the EDC power limit with Ryzen Master however.

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3 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

What were the temps before the delid? Probably was throttling.

 

Mobo might have MCE enabled by default but it could not do 4.6 all core due to temps.

The temps before delid weren't too bad - about 70 °C while running the XTU stress test and it showed no thermal throttling. When I run this test now after delid, I see that all-core turbo increased to 4,6 GHz while the temps are 50 °C at max. And I'm using an air cooler. Big one, but still just an air one.

CPU: Intel Core i7 8086K, Delidded with Der8auer Custom Nickel-Copper IHS and Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra CPU Cooling: Scythe Ninja 5 with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Taichi RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Predator DDR4 3200 MHz 15-17-17-36 GPU: Gainward RTX 2080 Phoenix GS with Raijintek Morpheus II Core Black Heatpipe VGA Cooler, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste and 2x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4T Pure Black TG Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Samsung 970 EVO 500GB, Seagate ST4000DM 4TB HDD, Toshiba HDWD240 4TB HDD PSU: SilentiumPC Supremo FM2 Gold 750W Case Cooling: 6x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Keyboard: Corsair Strafe Mechanical Keyboard Mouse: Trust GXT845 Tural Display: Sharp LC-50LD265E Operating System: Windows 10

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Most likely default mobo tweaks.

When you get a K chip on a Z mobo the defaults aren't necessarily "purely stock".

 

It seems that chip with a delid overclocks well, silicon lottery says most of them will do 5.2 all core, so it might be worth having a go at overclocking :)

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18 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Most likely default mobo tweaks.

When you get a K chip on a Z mobo the defaults aren't necessarily "purely stock".

 

It seems that chip with a delid overclocks well, silicon lottery says most of them will do 5.2 all core, so it might be worth having a go at overclocking :)

Maybe later, it serves me two years already and I didn't find anything in the real world that this CPU would have a problem with, even on the stock clocks. And I got it new from Amazon for 379 USD back in 2018, which wasn't so bad.

CPU: Intel Core i7 8086K, Delidded with Der8auer Custom Nickel-Copper IHS and Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra CPU Cooling: Scythe Ninja 5 with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste Motherboard: ASRock Z370 Taichi RAM: 2x16GB Kingston Predator DDR4 3200 MHz 15-17-17-36 GPU: Gainward RTX 2080 Phoenix GS with Raijintek Morpheus II Core Black Heatpipe VGA Cooler, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste and 2x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4T Pure Black TG Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 250GB, Samsung 970 EVO 500GB, Seagate ST4000DM 4TB HDD, Toshiba HDWD240 4TB HDD PSU: SilentiumPC Supremo FM2 Gold 750W Case Cooling: 6x Scythe Kaze Flex PWM 120mm fans Keyboard: Corsair Strafe Mechanical Keyboard Mouse: Trust GXT845 Tural Display: Sharp LC-50LD265E Operating System: Windows 10

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29 minutes ago, H6NS said:

Maybe later, it serves me two years already and I didn't find anything in the real world that this CPU would have a problem with, even on the stock clocks. And I got it new from Amazon for 379 USD back in 2018, which wasn't so bad.

The anniversary chip is hard core. It'll last you a long time. Few more years at lease. Those chips have the highest Bin of it's class.

 

You have plenty of headroom. It'll do all cores manual OC at 5ghz no problem. Since you de-lidded it, temps should be just fine.

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