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The thing is that during the shipping the AiOs create a lot of air bubbles inside of the cooling system. I'm pretty sure that you have nothing to worry about. Even Gamers Nexus quotes some cooling manufacturer in his video that you should leave it "doing its thing" for a day or so and it should calm down eventually.

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Hi guys

I installed my new Kraken x63 today to replace one I have with a broken mounting bracket, however, the pump noise seems to be weird. Compared to my previous one, the noise of the water in the loop seems a LOT louder as shown in the video. Should I be concerned/should I return it and get a new one? Temps seem unaffected - getting 30 at the desktop and around 50 to 60 in games (~18 degree idle).

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3 minutes ago, TomH said:

Hi guys

I installed my new Kraken x63 today to replace one I have with a broken mounting bracket, however, the pump noise seems to be weird. Compared to my previous one, the noise of the water in the loop seems a LOT louder as shown in the video. Should I be concerned/should I return it and get a new one? Temps seem unaffected - getting 30 at the desktop and around 50 to 60 in games (~18 degree idle).

Can you get us a picture of the entire PC? Depending how the pump and radiator are mounted, it may be more or less susceptible to getting air in the pump which can make that noise. 

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Hello, I heard that before when the pump was higher than the radiator. It was caused by air bubbles. I don't know which way you installed it, but it is generally recommended to have the pump lower than radiator (Gamers Nexus did a nice video about it).

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Picture attached. That may be the case, just unsure why this didn't affect my other one which was installed the same way20200823_171418.thumb.jpg.294074ac89698924f0404c2098025c90.jpg

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Try mounting the radiator on the top of the case, it should solve the problem. Well, if the case is compatible with the top mount of your AiO...

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Just now, H6NS said:

Try mounting the radiator on the top of the case, it should solve the problem. Well, if the case is compatible with the top mount of your AiO...

Unfortunately it isn't compatible 😕 now that its been running for a little, it seems to have quietened down actually. So long as its not leaking or overheating, I should be fine right? I'm hoping to migrate to a new case soon so hopefully this will help.

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So I guess this is the only way you can install it then. Try unplugging ang plugging the pump, sometimes it helps. 

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The thing is that during the shipping the AiOs create a lot of air bubbles inside of the cooling system. I'm pretty sure that you have nothing to worry about. Even Gamers Nexus quotes some cooling manufacturer in his video that you should leave it "doing its thing" for a day or so and it should calm down eventually.

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Thanks everyone. It does seem to have quietened down a LOT so it was probably just something in shipping as you say.

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How the tube long enough for you to flip the radiator and have the tube at the bottom ?

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You could always relocate your top fan and flip the case on its head, that way the cooler can function properly

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7 hours ago, H6NS said:

The thing is that during the shipping the AiOs create a lot of air bubbles inside of the cooling system. I'm pretty sure that you have nothing to worry about. Even Gamers Nexus quotes some cooling manufacturer in his video that you should leave it "doing its thing" for a day or so and it should calm down eventually.

I have recently had an issue installing a NZXT Kraken Z73 AiO Liquid Cooler into my build which turned out to be a faulty product.... Can be found here (https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/nzxt-kraken-z73-pump-not-working.3638406/) but as I mention in my post on Tom's Hardware, why does everyone talk about air bubbles in a closed line AiO Liquid Cooler? 

"We also found online that some people are claiming that "Air Bubbles" get stuck in this pump and they shake the radiator to allow gravity to push the bubble out of the line..... but I am not sure how that makes sense as its a closed line so where would the air go? - lol" (View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNNLWPLqAYM) 

All this talk about "Air bubbles" in a closed line AiO Liquid Cooler cannot be true as the air has nowhere to escape... Just Saying 

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25 minutes ago, Jamf said:

I have recently had an issue installing a NZXT Kraken Z73 AiO Liquid Cooler into my build which turned out to be a faulty product.... Can be found here (https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/nzxt-kraken-z73-pump-not-working.3638406/) but as I mention in my post on Tom's Hardware, why does everyone talk about air bubbles in a closed line AiO Liquid Cooler? 

"We also found online that some people are claiming that "Air Bubbles" get stuck in this pump and they shake the radiator to allow gravity to push the bubble out of the line..... but I am not sure how that makes sense as its a closed line so where would the air go? - lol" (View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNNLWPLqAYM) 

All this talk about "Air bubbles" in a closed line AiO Liquid Cooler cannot be true as the air has nowhere to escape... Just Saying 

The AIOs come with air already in them. They don't fill them 100% so when someone says they get stuck in the pump, that's air moving into the pump from elsewhere and if the pump is put in a configuration in which the air can't leave back to the radiator, then it gets stuck.

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3 minutes ago, Inelastic said:

The AIOs come with air already in them. They don't fill them 100% so when someone says they get stuck in the pump, that's air moving into the pump from elsewhere and if the pump is put in a configuration in which the air can't leave back to the radiator, then it gets stuck.

Ahh that makes sense. Must be the verbiage that throws me off.

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1 hour ago, Jamf said:

All this talk about "Air bubbles" in a closed line AiO Liquid Cooler cannot be true as the air has nowhere to escape... Just Saying 

check out the gamersnexus video above. He demonstrates and explains

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