Cpu Temps

[MikOL]

Hello! I just want you guys to see if this is a normal temp?

CPU: AMD A10-6700

GPU: GTX750 TI

RAM: 6gb

MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE F2A68HM-S1

PSU CORSAIR VS450w

[MikOL]

[Moonzy]

cpu temp seems high

make sure the fans are spinning, and might wanna re-apply thermal paste if you have some on hand

as well as blow on the dusts if any

[svmlegacy]

17 minutes ago, MikOL said:

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That's definitely too hot. Look at upgrading the thermal solution.

FYI for those who comment later, Tctl is a control temp, while TSI is the actual package temp.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

That's definitely too hot. Look at upgrading the thermal solution.

FYI for those who comment later, Tctl is a control temp, while TSI is the actual package temp.

Yep TSI is remote probe. However its software driven, so would question the accuracy.

 

 

[MikOL]

34 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

cpu temp seems high

make sure the fans are spinning, and might wanna re-apply thermal paste if you have some on hand

as well as blow on the dusts if any

I tried to re-apply thermal paste, btw im using mx-4

34 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

That's definitely too hot. Look at upgrading the thermal solution.

FYI for those who comment later, Tctl is a control temp, while TSI is the actual package temp.

Thanks for the info man..

22 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Yep TSI is remote probe. However its software driven, so would question the accuracy.

 

 

So does the TSI is not accurate enough?

 

this is the idle temp for now

[MikOL]

This is the stress test for 15 minutes, do u think guys is this good temps? Or should i change my cpu cooler?

[Guest]

50+ celcius difference between core temp and package temp would have me thinking it's not accurate. The core generates heat. However it can accumulate at the motherboard socket (package) and there is placed a sensor.

 

However this temp like most all amd chips works on an algorithm.  For example FX processor core and package temps where not accurate until some 40 to 45c and up. 

 

Generally your core and package temps should be around 10c difference at most if the cooler is doing its job properly.

 

Somewhere between 100 and 110c that board would shut right off. 

 

Feel the heat sink. If its 100c, itll be really hot. So mind the burns. Be careful. If it feels just warm to the touch, the cooler is fine, rely on the core temps instead. 

 

All the other temps look great other wise.

[MikOL]

24 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

50+ celcius difference between core temp and package temp would have me thinking it's not accurate. The core generates heat. However it can accumulate at the motherboard socket (package) and there is placed a sensor.

 

However this temp like most all amd chips works on an algorithm.  For example FX processor core and package temps where not accurate until some 40 to 45c and up. 

 

Generally your core and package temps should be around 10c difference at most if the cooler is doing its job properly.

 

Somewhere between 100 and 110c that board would shut right off. 

 

Feel the heat sink. If its 100c, itll be really hot. So mind the burns. Be careful. If it feels just warm to the touch, the cooler is fine, rely on the core temps instead. 

 

All the other temps look great other wise.

I tried the amd overdrive and i just checked the temps, so i am really confused about the temps really, so this is the temps in amd overdrive

 

 

[Guest]

Yeah, I know. 

Software pulling from sensors that dont exist may sometimes give a whact number.

 

Your pc is fine. Hwmonitor is fine on your system. 

You can always try HWInfo64 and we can see if there a bunch more strange readings. 

 

What's Coretemp say? Have you tried that one? 

[svmlegacy]

31 minutes ago, MikOL said:

This is the stress test for 15 minutes, do u think guys is this good temps? Or should i change my cpu cooler?

BTW, is this overclocked, or a 6700K? The 6700 is supposed to be a 65 W TDP.

28 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

50+ celcius difference between core temp and package temp would have me thinking it's not accurate. The core generates heat. However it can accumulate at the motherboard socket (package) and there is placed a sensor.

 

However this temp like most all amd chips works on an algorithm.  For example FX processor core and package temps where not accurate until some 40 to 45c and up. 

 

Generally your core and package temps should be around 10c difference at most if the cooler is doing its job properly.

 

Somewhere between 100 and 110c that board would shut right off. 

 

Feel the heat sink. If its 100c, itll be really hot. So mind the burns. Be careful. If it feels just warm to the touch, the cooler is fine, rely on the core temps instead. 

 

All the other temps look great other wise.

Spoiler

Check the comments in this.

Interestingly, AMD lists Tctl as a measure of thermal margin, not absolute temperature. This is proven by the apparently sub-ambient minimums. I agree the temps are both a bit weird, but that's not uncommon for K15h.

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Feel the heat sink. If its 100c, itll be really hot.

This is a bit of a misnomer, sometimes the CPU will be hot and the heatsink cool, due to a bad TIM application.

[SavageNeo]

bug in softwares.

broken sensors

 

all what  @ShrimpBrime said. 

 

you are fine

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

BTW, is this overclocked, or a 6700K? The 6700 is supposed to be a 65 W TDP.

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Check the comments in this.

Interestingly, AMD lists Tctl as a measure of thermal margin, not absolute temperature. This is proven by the apparently sub-ambient minimums. I agree the temps are both a bit weird, but that's not uncommon for K15h.

This is a bit of a misnomer, sometimes the CPU will be hot and the heatsink cool, due to a bad TIM application.

Agreed. 

However if the socket was that hot, the cores would be smoking too. 

 

Not a big deal. Hes past 103c. Not quite shut down temp. I'd suspect he'd experienced that already by now based on the quick screen shot.

 

In addition yes, temps based off margin via algorithm.  Something about time and therms. 

 

Knowingly the last temp you looked at was pulled just over a second ago. And that next one you just saw was 1second ago too lol.

Edited August 22, 2020 by ShrimpBrime
Additional comment.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, MikOL said:

The one that says CPU under motherboard is the off die cpu temp at the IHS plate. The base of your heat sink would be about this temp. Can experiment with a thermal gun.

[MikOL]

Okay first of all thank you for your concerns, so far my pc haven’t shut down yet, so thank GOD, so i tried the coretemps and it seems like this is the correct temps for my cpu, i tried to stress test it for 20 mins and my temps are 47-50c, and then i tried to use the thermal gun and the temps are 40-45c so i think the HWMonitor and HWInfo64 called “Whact Numbers” so i don’t know if could trust those numbers from them or does the coretemps are accurate enough? Btw i tried to touch the heatsink as well, ofc its hot but not that kind of hot, feels like 40c, this really interesting thread, and im learning from it, thank you..

 

this is the coretemps readings..

[MikOL]

32 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

BTW, is this overclocked, or a 6700K? The 6700 is supposed to be a 65 W TDP.

  Reveal hidden contents

Check the comments in this.

Interestingly, AMD lists Tctl as a measure of thermal margin, not absolute temperature. This is proven by the apparently sub-ambient minimums. I agree the temps are both a bit weird, but that's not uncommon for K15h.

This is a bit of a misnomer, sometimes the CPU will be hot and the heatsink cool, due to a bad TIM application.

No its not overclocked, so im just guessing that the sensors are off, i really need a correct reading of temps to my cpu, though im not bothered because its not even shuttiing down or any what, so i guess im good? lol