2060S vs 5700XT?

[Oddball_DK]

I'm building my first pc in 17 years (currently on a laptop) and I was wondering if I should go with the 2060S or 5700XT?
I've already bought a 3300X and the reason behind the graphics cards is that my GF wants to borrow my new pc to play Planet Zoo, and apparently that game wants 8GB of vram.

If you have any suggestions of specific cards, please feel free to post it.

I've also bought the BeQuiet 500DX and 16 GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 3200Mhz CL16.

 

If you have any suggestions for a good price to performance motherboard, hit me up aswell!

[Helpful Tech Witch]

5700xt is about the same as a 2070s if you dont want to do rtx

[Haro]

if you're steaming and you need nvec then 2060 super. 

if you're not, a 5700xt will be a fair bit faster. 

10 hours ago, Oddball_DK said:

for a good price to performance motherboard,

budget?

[hwhendhah]

but 5700xt drivers arent perfect YET

id say to wait until big navi and rtx 3000 drop

[Mateyyy]

The 5700XT is around 5-8% faster.

If you don't need NVENC, ray tracing, DLSS, don't have a crappy PSU and don't mind potentially having to tinker with the drivers, it's a good choice. The cheapest really good models are the Sapphire Pulse and Powercolor Red Dragon.

 

9 minutes ago, Oddball_DK said:

If you have any suggestions for a good price to performance motherboard, hit me up aswell!

What's your budget for the board?

[gloop]

I'd personally still recommend a 2060s due to some bad drivers on AMD's part.

 

If you want the 10% extra performance but have a small risk of bad drivers fo for the 5700xt.

[Oddball_DK]

38 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

5700xt is about the same as a 2070s if you dont want to do rtx

Thanks for your vote my dude, I don't really need to do RTX with the games I'm playing myself.

[Oddball_DK]

38 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

if you're steaming and you need nvec then 2060 super. 

if you're not, a 5700xt will be a fair bit faster. 

budget?

Thanks for weighing in!
I am not into streaming, and I don't think I will ever be. So I don't need NVENC right?

- Budget for mb is around 120 USD I think (I live in Denmark, so the prices are a bit fucked up), I'm thinking maybe B550 or X470 so I can upgrade to a Ryzen 4000 series at some point. The 3300X might just be a placeholder (I got it SUPER cheap).

[Oddball_DK]

39 minutes ago, hwhendhah said:

but 5700xt drivers arent perfect YET

id say to wait until big navi and rtx 3000 drop

Yeah, well, if I wait I probably wont be able to afford the new cards anyways. So I'd rather just get it built and then upgrade down the line when Big Navi and RTX 3000 goes on a possible sale in january or black friday next year.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, Oddball_DK said:

Yeah, well, if I wait I probably wont be able to afford the new cards anyways. So I'd rather just get it built and then upgrade down the line when Big Navi and RTX 3000 goes on a possible sale in january or black friday next year.

If you wait the 5700xt/ rtx 2000 will drop some

[Oddball_DK]

40 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

The 5700XT is around 5-8% faster.

If you don't need NVENC, ray tracing, DLSS, don't have a crappy PSU and don't mind potentially having to tinker with the drivers, it's a good choice. The cheapest really good models are the Sapphire Pulse and Powercolor Red Dragon.

 

What's your budget for the board?

I don't need NVENC since I don't do any streaming, and ray tracing is kinda wasted on me I think. The game I play the most is League of Legends and that probably won't change. I will still try out newer games, but since I am used to the graphic from my GTX 765M I don't feel like I need ray tracing. DLSS I have no idea about, I completely forgot about it.
I don't have a PSU yet, I'll get that next month aswell.
I don't mind tinkering, as long as this amazing community will back me up if I get in trouble.
I was actually considering the Red Devil, since the price difference between Red Devil and Red Dragon here in Denmark is just insanely low.

 

edit: Budget on the board, I'm thinking around 120 USD.

[Haro]

4 minutes ago, Oddball_DK said:

So I don't need NVENC right?

Yea a 5700xt should be a fair bit better then. 

 

4 minutes ago, Oddball_DK said:

Budget for mb is around 120 USD I think

Ignore x470 and b450 can support zen 3. 

B450 a pro max (non m). Pro vdh max and the pro 4 and the mortar and the tomhawk are good. 

As for b550, for a little more than 120 bucks, the vdh is good and for around 140-50ish bucks, the a pro is seriously good. 

[Oddball_DK]

39 minutes ago, gloop said:

I'd personally still recommend a 2060s due to some bad drivers on AMD's part.

 

If you want the 10% extra performance but have a small risk of bad drivers fo for the 5700xt.

Do they still have bad drivers? Aren't they mostly fixed by now?

[Oddball_DK]

3 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

If you wait the 5700xt/ rtx 2000 will drop some

Yeah, I know. But do you know that feeling you get when you are just SUPER close to being done?
I've wanted to build my new rig for atleast 2 years now, I guess I could wait. But my laptop is really getting close to being dead, and I don't think I'm willing to risk it (It has passed 7 years)

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, Oddball_DK said:

But do you know that feeling you get when you are just SUPER close to being done?

nVidia should be dropping at the end of the month. Plus i bet you could slightly increase budget if you wait.

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, Oddball_DK said:

I was actually considering the Red Devil, since the price difference between Red Devil and Red Dragon here in Denmark is just insanely low.

That's a solid choice. I'd also look for a Gaming X, but if it's more expensive then just go with the Red Devil.

 

3 minutes ago, Oddball_DK said:

Budget on the board, I'm thinking around 120 USD.

What's your budget in krone? Unless you're purchasing the parts from the US for some reason.

[Oddball_DK]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yea a 5700xt should be a fair bit better then. 

 

Ignore x470 and b450 can support zen 3. 

B450 a pro max (non m). Pro vdh max and the pro 4 and the mortar and the tomhawk are good. 

As for b550, for a little more than 120 bucks, the vdh is good and for around 140-50ish bucks, the a pro is seriously good. 

Thanks my dude!
 

Are you absolutely sure that B450 will be able to support Zen 3 (Or Zen 2+, whatever the name will be)?
I think x570 is over my budget, and since I probably wont do much OC'ing I don't really think I need it.

I will definately look into the vdh and could you hit me up with a random link for the a pro so I am sure which one you mean?

[Oddball_DK]

1 minute ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

nVidia should be dropping at the end of the month. Plus i bet you could slightly increase budget if you wait.

Well, I have allocated 3500 DKK (around 550 USD) for my graphics card, and I highly doubt RTX 3000 series will be any good at that price point.

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Oddball_DK said:

Are you absolutely sure that B450 will be able to support Zen 3

msi's boards will, so the a pro max and the pro vdh max and the tomahawl max and the mortar max will. 

though we don't know about other vendors.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, Oddball_DK said:

Well, I have allocated 3500 DKK (around 550 USD) for my graphics card, and I highly doubt RTX 3000 series will be any good at that price point.

once nvidia drops the used market will have more 2000 series. Maybe a 2070s or a 2080s for the price of a 2060s now, but it depends on so much.

[Oddball_DK]

2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

That's a solid choice. I'd also look for a Gaming X, but if it's more expensive then just go with the Red Devil.

 

What's your budget in krone? Unless you're purchasing the parts from the US for some reason.

I mean, the max limit in kroner is 1000, but the cards I have been looking at has been around 650-800. I feel like that's the sweet spot here in DK.

IIRC Gaming X is almost 1000 DKK more than the Red Devil ^^

[Oddball_DK]

Just now, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

once nvidia drops the used market will have more 2000 series. Maybe a 2070s or a 2080s for the price of a 2060s now, but it depends on so much.

That's true. But the used market is just crap in DK, honestly. So many people are scamming and the ones who aren't are taking overprice.

[Oddball_DK]

4 minutes ago, comander said:

The general feeling I get is that the 5700 is a faster part that can't do RTX or DLSS. 

If the latter two matter to you, go for the 2060, else go for the 5700.

Thanks for your opinion my friend, I will consider!

[Oddball_DK]

Just now, comander said:

Historically speaking prices drop like a rock when new parts come out. Think 7900GTX dropping by half when the 8800 came out... or the 780s dropping by half when the 980s came out or... same with CPUs. 1800x used to cost $500... they aren't 500 now. 

 

The deltas are certainly getting smaller but... price free fall is a very real thing with new launches. 

That's true!

Well, since I am only buying early next month I will have a look at the new market if nVidia drops their new cards later this month!

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, Oddball_DK said:

I mean, the max limit in kroner is 1000, but the cards I have been looking at has been around 650-800. I feel like that's the sweet spot here in DK.

I'd go for either of these.

https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/product/BHBhP6/msi-b450-gaming-plus-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-plus-max

https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XJbCmG/msi-b450-a-pro-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-a-pro-max

Both should be good for up to a 3900X no problem.

2 minutes ago, Oddball_DK said:

IIRC Gaming X is almost 1000 DKK more than the Red Devil ^^

Oh wow, that can't be right, maybe it's out of stock or something.

Go for the Red Devil in that case.