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I'm deciding between these builds. First I wanted to choose between the 2070S and 5700xt. Then I read that a 2060S is comparable to the 2070 (non-S) and that RTX ON = FPS OFF, correct me if I'm wrong on those. I made a build for the 5700xt and swapped the GPU for the 2060S. For the 2070S I made a different build where I had to save on the other parts. My budget is €1070. What would be the best option? 

 

5700xt Build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/PdvBK4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€129.85 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€102.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (€430.95 @ Megekko) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€85.00 @ NoRRoD.nl) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte B-H 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Total: €1061.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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2060S Build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/dmWg6R

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€129.85 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€102.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  (€439.00 @ Azerty) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€85.00 @ NoRRoD.nl) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte B-H 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Total: €1069.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:28 CEST+0200

 

2070S Build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/9qWg6R

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€150.05 @ Azerty) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€77.00 @ Azerty) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€102.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card  (€542.95 @ Azerty) 
Case: *Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€59.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (€70.90 @ Megekko) 
Total: €1072.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:29 CEST+0200

 

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15 minutes ago, blazingfastfire said:

I'm deciding between these builds. First I wanted to choose between the 2070S and 5700xt. Then I read that a 2060S is comparable to the 2070 (non-S) and that RTX ON = FPS OFF, correct me if I'm wrong on those. I made a build for the 5700xt and swapped the GPU for the 2060S. For the 2070S I made a different build where I had to save on the other parts. My budget is €1070. What would be the best option? 

 

5700xt Build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/PdvBK4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€129.85 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€102.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (€430.95 @ Megekko) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€85.00 @ NoRRoD.nl) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte B-H 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Total: €1061.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:24 CEST+0200

 

2060S Build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/dmWg6R

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€129.85 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€102.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  (€439.00 @ Azerty) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€85.00 @ NoRRoD.nl) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte B-H 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€69.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Total: €1069.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:28 CEST+0200

 

2070S Build:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/9qWg6R

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€150.05 @ Azerty) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€77.00 @ Azerty) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€68.85 @ Azerty) 
Storage: Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€102.95 @ Megekko) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card  (€542.95 @ Azerty) 
Case: *Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€59.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND) 
Power Supply: EVGA 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  (€70.90 @ Megekko) 
Total: €1072.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:29 CEST+0200

 

the 5700 XT build. it has better psu and case too.

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20 minutes ago, blazingfastfire said:

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if you would like to only game, i recommend 5700XT, cause the price to performance is way better than both geforce card you include here (2060S & 2070S)
if you do some productivity i recommend 2060S/2070S, cuda accelerated apps is a lot

here i have 2 recommendation for you

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2070S
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€95.00 @ Megekko)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory  (€75.00 @ Azerty)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€111.85 @ Azerty)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (€453.00 @ Megekko)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€59.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€89.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €1058.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:52 CEST+0200

2060S

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€95.00 @ Megekko)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory  (€75.00 @ Azerty)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€111.85 @ Azerty)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€453.95 @ Megekko)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€59.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€89.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €1059.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:55 CEST+0200

changed the motherboard, ram, psu, and case

for 5700 XT i recommend the sapphire nitro over pulses, has a better overall thermal performance

CPU Ryzen 5 3500 @4.1Ghz 1.05v || Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO MAX || RAM G.Skill SniperX 2x8GB 3600Mhz C19 || GPU iChiLL GeForce GTX 1060 6GB X3 || Case Fractal MiDi R2 || Storage 860 EVO 500GB - HDS72101 - WD10EZEX - WD10EARS - WD30EZRX - ST4000NM003 - 2x ST4000DM004 || PSU Corsair RM550 || Display(s) LG 22MP65HQ - AOC 1670SWU || Cooling Corsair H110i GT || Keyboard Topre Type Heaven || Mouse Logitech G403 Prodigy || Sound Khastadio CS-01 - KZ ZSN || Operating System Windows 10 Pro 1903

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unless you need nvec. 5700xt build will be better. 

though the psu is subpart, get a tx550m and that'll be a lot better.

and get a cheaper ssd, this one is overpriced.

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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24 minutes ago, ayazam said:

if you would like to only game, i recommend 5700XT, cause the price to performance is way better than both geforce card you include here (2060S & 2070S)
if you do some productivity i recommend 2060S/2070S, cuda accelerated apps is a lot

here i have 2 recommendation for you

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2070S
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€95.00 @ Megekko)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory  (€75.00 @ Azerty)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€111.85 @ Azerty)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (€453.00 @ Megekko)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€59.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€89.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €1058.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:52 CEST+0200

2060S

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€173.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€95.00 @ Megekko)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL19 Memory  (€75.00 @ Azerty)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€111.85 @ Azerty)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (€453.95 @ Megekko)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€59.95 @ CD-ROM-LAND)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€89.90 @ Azerty)
Total: €1059.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-19 10:55 CEST+0200

changed the motherboard, ram, psu, and case

for 5700 XT i recommend the sapphire nitro over pulses, has a better overall thermal performance

The RAM you chose is slower than the 3200mhz cl16 due to the high cl. 

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Stay away from the QLC drives. The only reason to go there is extra high capacity (4-8TB). You can get better 1TB TLC SSDs.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X · Cooler: Artic Liquid Freezer II 280 · Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 Unify · RAM: G.skill Ripjaws V 2x16GB 3600MHz CL16 (2Rx8) · Graphics Card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 Ti TUF Gaming · Boot Drive: 500GB WD Black SN750 M.2 NVMe SSD · Game Drive: 2TB Crucial MX500 SATA SSD · PSU: Corsair White RM850x 850W 80+ Gold · Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow · Monitor: MSI Optix MAG342CQR 34” UWQHD 3440x1440 144Hz · Keyboard: Corsair K100 RGB Optical-Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (OPX Switch) · Mouse: Corsair Ironclaw RGB Wireless Gaming Mouse

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On 7/19/2020 at 4:22 PM, gloop said:

The RAM you chose is slower than the 3200mhz cl16 due to the high cl. 

heres why i pick higher speed rather than slower speed with tighter timings
 

 

CPU Ryzen 5 3500 @4.1Ghz 1.05v || Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO MAX || RAM G.Skill SniperX 2x8GB 3600Mhz C19 || GPU iChiLL GeForce GTX 1060 6GB X3 || Case Fractal MiDi R2 || Storage 860 EVO 500GB - HDS72101 - WD10EZEX - WD10EARS - WD30EZRX - ST4000NM003 - 2x ST4000DM004 || PSU Corsair RM550 || Display(s) LG 22MP65HQ - AOC 1670SWU || Cooling Corsair H110i GT || Keyboard Topre Type Heaven || Mouse Logitech G403 Prodigy || Sound Khastadio CS-01 - KZ ZSN || Operating System Windows 10 Pro 1903

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43 minutes ago, ayazam said:

heres why i pick higher speed rather than slower speed with tighter timings
 

 

But speed and timings aren’t the only thing about RAM. ICs and different dies also matter. The ram you chose is 3600 CL19, and the original RAM was 3200MHz CL16, which will have better ics and better latency, which is what performance depends on. 
 

 

that without taking about manual ocing where the 3200mhz kit will hit 3600mhz cl18 pretty easily which is better than the kit you recommended.

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5 minutes ago, gloop said:

But speed and timings aren’t the only thing about RAM. ICs and different dies also matter. The ram you chose is 3600 CL19, and the original RAM was 3200MHz CL16, which will have better ics and better latency, which is what performance depends on. 
 

 

that without taking about manual ocing where the 3200mhz kit will hit 3600mhz cl18 pretty easily which is better than the kit you recommended.

tried it myself tho, 3200Mhz C16, IF 1600Mhz vs 3600Mhz C19, IF 1800Mhz
i gained more with 3600C19 IF 1800Mhz over the 3200C16 IF 1600Mhz

but both settings obviously faster than stock :)

CPU Ryzen 5 3500 @4.1Ghz 1.05v || Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO MAX || RAM G.Skill SniperX 2x8GB 3600Mhz C19 || GPU iChiLL GeForce GTX 1060 6GB X3 || Case Fractal MiDi R2 || Storage 860 EVO 500GB - HDS72101 - WD10EZEX - WD10EARS - WD30EZRX - ST4000NM003 - 2x ST4000DM004 || PSU Corsair RM550 || Display(s) LG 22MP65HQ - AOC 1670SWU || Cooling Corsair H110i GT || Keyboard Topre Type Heaven || Mouse Logitech G403 Prodigy || Sound Khastadio CS-01 - KZ ZSN || Operating System Windows 10 Pro 1903

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