Acoustic vs Thermal performance layout advice in be quiet! purebase 500 tg

[The_PurpleShroom]

Hello,

 

So I was wondering if any of you guys could give me some advice about fan layout optimisation/advice for my current build. Best case scenario, I would like a profile or loadout that is extremely quiet for when I doing work or something non-process intensive. With another profile for gaming where the acoustics of the system don't really matter as I have my headphones blasting anyways. 

 

pc partpicker list at bottom of post. 

 

I find that even when I set in bios my top exhaust fans the "silent" preset, that it seems to be the loudest component in my system. Although depending on GPU temps those fans tend to kick on even when the GPU is idling [it has a 0rpm mode by default], this is an issue that I did not experience in my s340 elite. My hypothesis for the reasoning behind the increased GPU temps both at idle an during gaming are due to the front intake fans either lacking the static pressure required to pull sufficient air through the fairly restrictive filtration setup on this case [I removed the bottom intake filter], or due to them monitoring cpu temps which are consistently very low at idle an during gaming not ramping up sufficiently also reducing air flow to the GPU. 

 

Any tips/optimisation guides would be greatly appreciated [doesn't even have to be directly related to the topic as I love to hear feedback about my setup, and/pr setup reccomendations/optimisations] 

 

Some other Important information: 

CPU OC'ed 4.2 all core 1.2v. 

GPU overclocked ~150 core clock ~675mem clock

 

Last night I was looking at this forum and I came accross Fan Control, the program made by a fellow forum member, would it be worthwhile setting that software up to monitor gpu temps for front intake? 

 

Current Fan setup: 

 

Front intake consists of:

Bottom int: 1 140mm silent wings 3 1000rpm model [I think in pcpartpicker it is listed as high speed model, but I don't see that listed on the packaging so I am assuming I do not have that model]. 

Top int: included 140mm pure wings 2  set to performance pre set in bios - monitoring cpu

 

Top fans 2x 120mm noctua nf-12a [currently mounted as exhaust, I experimented with intake initially, apparently exhaust is superior for gpu cooling an since temps increased in this case relative to my previous case the s340 elite I figured I would give it a go] Currently set to standard or silent preset in bios - monitoring cpu 

 

Rear fan: 1x 140mm pure wings 2 [included in case] set to performance pre set in bios - monitoring cpu 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	Purchased For $279.00
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	Purchased For $139.00
Motherboard	ASRock B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	Purchased For $170.00
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	Purchased For $229.00
Storage	Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $120.00
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	Purchased For $177.00
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $135.00
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $100.00
Video Card	GALAX GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB EX (1-Click OC) Video Card	Purchased For $599.00
Case	be quiet! Pure Base 500 ATX Mid Tower Case	Purchased For $131.00
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	Purchased For $8.00
Case Fan	Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120 mm Fan	Purchased For $20.00
Case Fan	Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120 mm Fan	Purchased For $25.00
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM High-Speed 77.57 CFM 140 mm Fan	Purchased For $25.00
Monitor	BenQ EL2870U 28.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor	Purchased For $250.00
Monitor	Samsung LC27RG50FQNXZA 27.0" 1920x1080 240 Hz Monitor	Purchased For $389.00
Keyboard	Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Wired Gaming Keyboard	Purchased For $260.00
Mouse	Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed Wireless Optical Mouse	Purchased For $99.00
Headphones	Audio-Technica ATH-M50x Headphones	Purchased For $212.00
Headphones	HP OMEN Mindframe 7.1 Channel Headset	Purchased For $50.00
Custom	Deepcool CFAN-RGBSTP350 RGB 350 Colour LED Strip Magnetic Lighting Kit With Remote (Avail: In Stock )	Purchased For $20.00
Custom	Deepcool DP-F04PWM-HUB FH-04 4-Port Fan Hub (Avail: In Stock )	Purchased For $12.00
Custom	In Win jupiter Aj120 x 3 RGB case fans	Purchased For $69.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$3518.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-14 21:43 AEST+1000

As always, big thanks to anyone who takes time out of their busy schedule to help out. 

Stay safe guys!!

[jaslion]

Your temp issues are basically due to having a very restrictive ariflow case. Take off the front panel and most likely your problems will be fixed.

[The_PurpleShroom]

10 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Your temp issues are basically due to having a very restrictive ariflow case. Take off the front panel and most likely your problems will be fixed.

Yeah, I knew that going into the purchase [ordered about ~10 days ago]. The Dx model, was only available in white with no estimate for when the black model will be restocked. This is from pccasegear, which is like pretty much the only be quiet! case distributor that had available stock at the time of ordering [in Aus].

I would kind of prefer not to remove front panel though, due to there not being there being no dust filter inbetween intake an my components. 

[jaslion]

17 minutes ago, The_PurpleShroom said:

Yeah, I knew that going into the purchase [ordered about ~10 days ago]. The Dx model, was only available in white with no estimate for when the black model will be restocked. This is from pccasegear, which is like pretty much the only be quiet! case distributor that had available stock at the time of ordering [in Aus].

I would kind of prefer not to remove front panel though, due to there not being there being no dust filter inbetween intake an my components. 

A quiet pc is achieved not through a silencing case as those only really work for lower end stuff before heating up too much causing the other parts to need to run their fans louder.

 

Silencing a gpu is just hard. The only effective way is to costum cool them.

[The_PurpleShroom]

5 minutes ago, jaslion said:

A quiet pc is achieved not through a silencing case as those only really work for lower end stuff before heating up too much causing the other parts to need to run their fans louder.

 

Silencing a gpu is just hard. The only effective way is to costum cool them.

Yeah that makes sense, normally I would have gone with a airflow oriented case. The only reason I did not, is because I wanted to ensure that I would have adequate cpu cooler clearance for either the noctua nh-d15 or the dark rock pro 4. This was the only case that was within my price range at the time, an was compatiable with my desired heatsink. 

 

Maybe I could see if I can find a matching pront panel an try an modify it to house some front panel mesh. That would be sweet as. Do you think the 500Dx front panel is compatiable? That would be a lot easier of a solution if I could find one that would get shipped to Australia. 

I will have to investigate. 

[jaslion]

27 minutes ago, The_PurpleShroom said:

Yeah that makes sense, normally I would have gone with a airflow oriented case. The only reason I did not, is because I wanted to ensure that I would have adequate cpu cooler clearance for either the noctua nh-d15 or the dark rock pro 4. This was the only case that was within my price range at the time, an was compatiable with my desired heatsink. 

 

Maybe I could see if I can find a matching pront panel an try an modify it to house some front panel mesh. That would be sweet as. Do you think the 500Dx front panel is compatiable? That would be a lot easier of a solution if I could find one that would get shipped to Australia. 

I will have to investigate. 

I would not know about any compatible front panels.

[The_PurpleShroom]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

I would not know about any compatible front panels.

Ok, I have sent be quiet! an email about compatiabillity, as even if I were to return my current case the 500Dx [the same case but with an airflow oriented front panel] the black 500Dx is sold out in every be quiet! case distributor in Australia at the moment. 

So for for, it seems I have a few options. 

1. take off front panel, jank rig some mesh to in front of the fans an just deal with the horrible aesthetic for a while. 

2. Mod the existing front panel for Air flow.

3. if compatiable, purchase 500dx front panel. 

 

Is there anything else regarding my setup that you think could be optimised? 

[LogicalDrm]

On 7/14/2020 at 4:24 PM, The_PurpleShroom said:

Is there anything else regarding my setup that you think could be optimised? 

Since intake is your biggest issue, I would move both Noctua's there. On exhaust side, since you already have big air cooler, you could just have single fan. More fan = more noise.

[The_PurpleShroom]

About a day after this post I realised that the reason for the constant loud fan noise has been my PSU fan. Lol. So I have ordered a corsair RM 750x 2018. 

12 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

Since intake is your biggest issue, I would move both Noctua's there. On exhaust side, since you already have big air cooler, you could just have single fan. More fan = more noise.

Do you think the Noctua fans will provide superior static pressure relative to the silent wings 3 an pure wings 2 140mm fans, allowing greater intake through the front panel mesh? 

[LogicalDrm]

5 hours ago, The_PurpleShroom said:

Do you think the Noctua fans will provide superior static pressure relative to the silent wings 3 an pure wings 2 140mm fans, allowing greater intake through the front panel mesh? 

On paper, yes. I have no personal experience from either.

[The_PurpleShroom]

1 hour ago, LogicalDrm said:

On paper, yes. I have no personal experience from either.

Ah ok. When the new psu arrives I will evaluate the acoustics. 

I also contacted be quiet!, they said that the front panel for the pure base 500Dx is slightly different, an therefore not compatiable. So I asked if I could purchase an additional panel for the pure base 500, so I can attempt a front panel ventilation mod.