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3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

always look at the model

^ exactly 

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12 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Never buy by brand, always look at the model. What is your budget and platform of choice?

 

9 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

^ exactly 

Almost a 100$ I got a i5 8500.

I searched for mobos in local stores because they are cheaper than shipping anything from outside. I have two options either gigabyte b365m ds3h mobo or the msi b365m pro vdh mobo

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8 minutes ago, SHADFAN said:

have two options either gigabyte b365m ds3h mobo or the msi b365m pro vdh mobo

If you want maybe sell the 8500 and get a b450 pro 4 and a 3300x 

That will be better and you will move to a better platform instead of this dead one 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

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6 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

If you want maybe sell the 8500 and get a b450 pro 4 and a 3300x 

That will be better and you will move to a better platform instead of this dead one 

You see I'd like to sell the 8500 but the problem is that not alot of used items nor tech/pc hardware  buyers in my country. And am in rush so which mobo do you recommend?

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15 minutes ago, SHADFAN said:

 

Almost a 100$ I got a i5 8500.

I searched for mobos in local stores because they are cheaper than shipping anything from outside. I have two options either gigabyte b365m ds3h mobo or the msi b365m pro vdh mobo

At this point, sell the 8500 and get a Ryzen 5 3600.

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1 hour ago, SHADFAN said:

And am in rush so which mobo do you recommend?

I mean if you can try, you can sell it 

If you can't a decent b365 board that comes to mind is the b365 bazooka

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

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1 minute ago, SHADFAN said:

You see I'd like to sell the 8500 but the problem is that not alot of used items nor tech/pc hardware  buyers in my country. And am in rush so which mobo do you recommend?

Neither, both are relatively shit. The 8500 is also not aging well already so I would strongly suggest selling it and looking at a 12-thread CPU

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5 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

I mean if you can try you can sell it 

If you can't a decent b365 board that comes to mind is the b365 bazooka

I can't find that mobo here unfortunately. 

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Neither, both are relatively shit. The 8500 is also not aging well already so I would strongly suggest selling it and looking at a 12-thread CPU

Selling it is a good idea I agree but I'm In a rush and selling it is not that easy in my home country 

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21 minutes ago, SHADFAN said:

I can't find that mobo here unfortunately. 

Selling it is a good idea I agree but I'm In a rush and selling it is not that easy in my home country 

Well the boards in question are shit so buying them in rush will only make a bad investment worse - either look for a decent board or sell the CPU. Rushing will result in you having a poor experience and other problems

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49 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Well the boards in question are shit so buying them in rush will only make a bad investment worse - either look for a decent board or sell the CPU. Rushing will result in you having a poor experience and other problems

Why are they shit tho? 

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I dont know what you have in your country, but bejng 8th gen means all B360 H370 and B365 boards support this CPU. Just get one with more elaborate VRM heatsink, say the B360A-Pro or B360M Mortar from MSI. You may throw in needs for other features like USB count and stuff

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I dont know what you have in your country, but bejng 8th gen means all B360 H370 and B365 boards support this CPU. Just get one with more elaborate VRM heatsink, say the B360A-Pro or B360M Mortar from MSI. You may throw in needs for other features like USB count and stuff

Motherboards of these aren't that available. Those are the only common ones (b360, b365m)is the Asus prime B360M a good mobo? 

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1 hour ago, SHADFAN said:

Motherboards of these aren't that available. Those are the only common ones (b360, b365m)is the Asus prime B360M a good mobo? 

If there's no VRM heatsink at all, dont buy them. Even a heatsink that looks bad (i.e. small surface area) is still better than running bare mosfets (i.e. naked)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

If there's no VRM heatsink at all, dont buy them. Even a heatsink that looks bad (i.e. small surface area) is still better than running bare mosfets (i.e. naked)

Why a VRM heatsink is important if I'm not going to overclock?

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3 minutes ago, SHADFAN said:

Why a VRM heatsink is important if I'm not going to overclock?

because cheap boards use inefficient mosfets.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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20 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

because cheap boards use inefficient mosfets.

What that can cause? Apparently all the MOBOs that are "cheap" that range from 100 usd to 130 in my country do not have any heatsinks for these mosfets, However I checked reviews for these mobos and most of them said they are OK! I am in so much confusion.

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1 hour ago, SHADFAN said:

What that can cause? Apparently all the MOBOs that are "cheap" that range from 100 usd to 130 in my country do not have any heatsinks for these mosfets, However I checked reviews for these mobos and most of them said they are OK! I am in so much confusion.

There are also H310 H370 Z370 and Z390 if these are even cheaper

 

It's "OK" if CPUs run according to TDP spec (and limited turbo boost duration). This however, means the CPU will not run at its all core turbo in heavier workloads because it hits the power limit. It's not OK if you plan on getting the most out of it by raising the power limit enough so that it maintains all core turbo at all times.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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