firstbuild Compatibility on new build

[Askejm]

I'm planning to get this PC:

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X

Be quiet Dark Rock Pro 4

Corsair LL140mm 2 pack

ASUS ROG STRIX B450-E gaming

NZXT H500i black

G.Skill Trident Z V2 750W

ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2080 SUPER

 

I put the parts into pcpartpicker, and it says

• Warning! Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
• Note: Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders

I know that the be quiet cooler fits in the h500 from a reddit post, just barely being able to fit. However, i dont know about RAM clearance or the motherboard

Also, feel free to tell me if you think my choice of parts are bad

Budget: 14700 dkk + my old pc (like 1700 dkk) - $2203 + $254

Country: Denmark

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, VR (preferably 90 fps, however i can play at 30 fps without motion sickness) and moderately intensive games at 144 fps

 

[gloop]

That motherboard won't handle the 3900x, a tomahawk max would ne netter.

 

The case is an oven, switch it out for a Meshify C.

 

What PSU?

[gloop]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	4025.00kr @ Alternate
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard	1907.00kr @ Alternate
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	899.00kr @ CDON DK
Storage	Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	1382.00kr @ Alternate
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	532.00kr @ Alternate
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	6241.00kr @ Alternate
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	787.00kr @ Alternate
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	1099.00kr @ CDON DK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	16872.00kr
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-21 18:28 CEST+0200

 

[Askejm]

1 minute ago, gloop said:

That motherboard won't handle the 3900x, a tomahawk max would ne netter.

 

The case is an oven, switch it out for a Meshify C.

 

What PSU?

Why is it unable to handle the 3900x?

Dont know what happened with the G.Skill Trident Z V2 750W, must have mixed them up

The RAM is G.Skill Trident Z 3600 MHz 2x16 gb

PSU is Corsair RM750x V2 750W

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, gloop said:

That motherboard won't handle the 3900x, a tomahawk max would ne netter.

 

The case is an oven, switch it out for a Meshify C.

 

What PSU?

This.

 

4 minutes ago, Askejm said:

I'm planning to get this PC:

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X

Be quiet Dark Rock Pro 4

Corsair LL140mm 2 pack

ASUS ROG STRIX B450-E gaming

NZXT H500i black

G.Skill Trident Z V2 750W

ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2080 SUPER

 

I put the parts into pcpartpicker, and it says

• Warning! Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.
• Note: Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders

I know that the be quiet cooler fits in the h500 from a reddit post, just barely being able to fit. However, i dont know about RAM clearance or the motherboard

Also, feel free to tell me if you think my choice of parts are bad

Budget: 14700 dkk + my old pc (like 1700 dkk) - $2203 + $254

Country: Denmark

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Blender, VR (preferably 90 fps, however i can play at 30 fps without motion sickness) and moderately intensive games at 144 fps

 

If you are spending that sort of money on CPU and GPU, you have budget for a good mobo. X570, and a good X570 is what you want. A 3900x can suck power down like its its job. You need something with a good VRM. A good price point board is a Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wifi.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Askejm said:

Why is it unable to handle the 3900x?

The power delivery isnt up to scratch. It wont set the board on fire since I trust Asus to set power and current limit properly, but that will come at a cost of reduced performance.

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, Askejm said:

Why is it unable to handle the 3900x?

Dont know what happened with the G.Skill Trident Z V2 750W, must have mixed them up

The RAM is G.Skill Trident Z 3600 MHz 2x16 gb

PSU is Corsair RM750x V2 750W

Actually, looks like the VRM on that b450 is solid. 

 

Still, I would look at X570. But maybe in this case it would work, I am not sure. That VRM just by looking at pix looks decent. If you can find folks who say it is actually good, then its likely fine. Gamersnexus would likely have good info.

[LIGISTX]

Also, I guess I will be that guy... What matters more to you, blender or gaming? IF blender, good choice. If gaming, get a 10900k. 

[Askejm]

Took a look at a beefier motherboard.

What about the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi or ASUS ROG Strix X570-F gaming

I personally think the asus looks better

[Askejm]

Just now, LIGISTX said:

Also, I guess I will be that guy... What matters more to you, blender or gaming? IF blender, good choice. If gaming, get a 10900k. 

Probably blender

[LIGISTX]

4 minutes ago, Askejm said:

Took a look at a beefier motherboard.

What about the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi or ASUS ROG Strix X570-F gaming

I personally think the asus looks better

http://der8auer.com/x570-motherboard-vrm-overview/

 

According to that, seems like a good choice. Solid VRM temps. 

[Stahlmann]

10 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Also, I guess I will be that guy... What matters more to you, blender or gaming? IF blender, good choice. If gaming, get a 10900k. 

Pls don't get a 10900K for gaming. You can get equal performance with a 10600K for half the price.

[Stahlmann]

Also go for a B550 or X570 board if you're ready to spend that much on a Mobo anyways.

[LIGISTX]

2 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

Pls don't get a 10900K for gaming. You can get equal performance with a 10600K for half the price.

Not really.... a 10600k gets a lot less performance. 

 

Just two examples. I am not saying a 10600k is bad, but if your getting a 2080 or better.... Might as well use it to its full potential.

 

This does show how much better intel is than AMD for gaming though... The 3900x is much farther down the lists than most of the intel offerings.

 

[Stahlmann]

3 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Not really.... a 10600k gets a lot less performance. 

 

Just two examples. I am not saying a 10600k is bad, but if your getting a 2080 or better.... Might as well use it to its full potential.

 

This does show how much better intel is than AMD for gaming though... The 3900x is much farther down the lists than most of the intel offerings.

 

Did you even read the charts you just posted? With an easy OC both of them are within 5% of each other. Paying twice of the 10600K for the 10900K doesn't make any sense. A difference of 5-15 fps is not noticeable if you're over 130 fps anyways.

[LIGISTX]

2 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

Did you even read the charts you just posted? With an easy OC both of them are within 5% of each other. Paying twice of the 10600K for the 10900K doesn't make any sense. A difference of 5-15 fps is not noticeable if you're over 130 fps anyways.

No reason to attack, because I can say the same thing... Did you even read the charts? This is also at 3200 RAM, if you buy a non Z490 board you can't run 3200 RAM, and your stuck with slower RAM, which also makes a large difference to performance. At that point though, your buying a mobo that costs almost as much as your CPU. This is why the 10600k doesn't make a tone of sense. Not to say its bad. But, and OCed 10900k obviously does a lot better.

 

This is a really good piece on it.

 

 

Not to say the 10600k is bad. I am just saying..... if you are already spending a lot on mobo and fast RAM, getting a 10600k doesn't make the most sense. Give this video a watch, its fantastic. 

[Stahlmann]

4 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

No reason to attack, because I can say the same thing... Did you even read the charts? This is also at 3200 RAM, if you buy a non Z490 board you can't run 3200 RAM, and your stuck with slower RAM, which also makes a large difference to performance. At that point though, your buying a mobo that costs almost as much as your CPU. This is why the 10600k doesn't make a tone of sense. Not to say its bad. But, and OCed 10900k obviously does a lot better.

 

This is a really good piece on it.

 

 

Not to say the 10600k is bad. I am just saying..... if you are already spending a lot on mobo and fast RAM, getting a 10600k doesn't make the most sense. Give this video a watch, its fantastic. 

Sorry, i didn't mean to attack you in any way. But imo the 10600K can be bought with a 150-180$ z490 mobo. Most mobos can easily hande the 10600K OC. Idk why so many people think they need a 300$ mobo all the time. When 10900K and 10600K run on the same memory and are OCed to about the same frequency there is really not much use for 10900K in a gaming only system. I really hope noone buys a 10600K with a non Z mobo.

 

Edit: I already watched the video as I'm a sub of steve  I just don't quite share this opinion.

[LIGISTX]

Just now, Stahlmann98 said:

Sorry, i didn't mean to attack you in any way. But imo the 10600K can be bought with a 150-180$ z490 mobo. Most mobos can easily hande the 10600K OC. Idk why so many people think they need a 300$ mobo all the time. When 10900K and 10600K run on the same memory and are OCed to about the same frequency there is really not much use for 10900K in a gaming only system. I really hope noone buys a 10600K with a non Z mobo.

Agreed, its a fine chip. But, again, a lot of people will buy them without a Z mobo, and when a Z mobo costs that much, it makes some sense to go up to a 10700k simply to get more cores. A ~150-200 mobo isn't cheap by mobo standards... Thats my only point. I agree just about any Z board would handle the current of a 10600k, but the price barrier to entry plus getting some decent RAM makes it just sorta not make the most sense. The gamers nexus video I linked details is much better than I ever could.

 

Its not a bad chip, it just doesn't make the most sense IMO.

[Stahlmann]

Just now, LIGISTX said:

Agreed, its a fine chip. But, again, a lot of people will buy them without a Z mobo, and when a Z mobo costs that much, it makes some sense to go up to a 10700k simply to get more cores. A ~150-200 mobo isn't cheap by mobo standards... Thats my only point. I agree just about any Z board would handle the current of a 10600k, but the price barrier to entry plus getting some decent RAM makes it just sorta not make the most sense. The gamers nexus video I linked details is much better than I ever could.

 

Its not a bad chip, it just doesn't make the most sense IMO.

Idk how you come to the conclusion that many people buy the 10600K without a z490 mobo? These people would buy a 10600 NON K maybe.

 

Just some simple math:

10600K (~300$) + decent Z490 board (~170$) + 3600MHz memory (~70$) = ~540 $

10900K (~530$) + better board to support the higher power (~200-250$) + 3600MHz memory (~70$) = ~800-850 $

As i said above: The 10600K will be almost the same performance for much less money if both are OCed.

 

Im not trying to argue with you about what most people will use. I'm trying to be helpful to OPs case.