Pick me a GPU

[Zediik]

Hey everybody! I need some help with picking my gpu. So i got a Pc with Intel Xeon E5-1603 v3 cpu, dual 6 pin psu and PCIe 16 3.0 connector. the Pc does not have a GPU so please help me with picking one for gaming (Minecraft, League of Legends, cs:go, fortnite, GTA V....) If i would not ask here, I would buy AMD RX 570 (single 6 pin one). If anybody Can help me with picking my gpu, I would really appreciate it. (Btw I know that xeon cpu is not the best for gaming, but i bought really cheap pre-build with xeon inside)

[Haro]

What PSU ? 

Budget ?

[CPT_BEEMO]

4 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

What PSU ? 

Budget ?

bRuH sAvE sOmE MeAt fEr ThE rEsT oF uS! (Sad that I could not reply first but you are just so on top of it today!)

 

[Zediik]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

What PSU ? 

Budget ?

I don't know what psu is in there, it's some 700 w with no sticker on it, i just know that it's 700 w with two 6 pin cables

 

Budget... Somewhere around the same price like the RX 570

[LIGISTX]

6 minutes ago, Zediik said:

Hey everybody! I need some help with picking my gpu. So i got a Pc with Intel Xeon E5-1603 v3 cpu, dual 6 pin psu and PCIe 16 3.0 connector. the Pc does not have a GPU so please help me with picking one for gaming (Minecraft, League of Legends, cs:go, fortnite, GTA V....) If i would not ask here, I would buy AMD RX 570 (single 6 pin one). If anybody Can help me with picking my gpu, I would really appreciate it. (Btw I know that xeon cpu is not the best for gaming, but i bought really cheap pre-build with xeon inside)

Being a quad core low speed haswell era chip, I would be looking at a used GTX 1050ti or something as that would make the most sense. Spending more will just be a waste of money as your going to be pretty CPU bottlenecked.

[Haro]

Just now, LIGISTX said:

I would be looking at a used GTX 1050ti or something as

570 has a way better p/p value

 

1 minute ago, Zediik said:

Budget... Somewhere around the same price like the RX 570

Get a used 470 for like 70 bucks I guess 

I have my doubts on that PSU but if it works it works 

[CPT_BEEMO]

Just now, Zediik said:

I don't know what psu is in there, it's some 700 w with no sticker on it, i just know that it's 700 w with two 6 pin cables

 

Budget... Somewhere around the same price like the RX 570

What resolution is your monitor? What kind of FPS are you looking for?

 

If you are running 1920*1080 and are looking for just 60fps average on low to medium settings, actually a RX570 or RX580 from AMD would do just fine, if you can find one used at a fair price. A GTX1060 could do you well too but those typically end up costing a little more on the used market. Outside of that when it comes to the new market you could look at 1650(S) or 1660(S) or a radeon 5500XT or 5600XT, but you wont find many if at all at the same cost of a RX570

[Zediik]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

570 has a way better p/p value

 

Get a used 470 for like 70 bucks I guess 

I have my doubts on that PSU but if it works it works 

Isn't the 570 better? I looked up and there is 0 bottleneck

[Haro]

Just now, Zediik said:

Isn't the 570 better? I looked up and there is 0 bottleneck

They are both Polaris 10 cards and the performance is bear identical 

Look for the cheapest one 

[LIGISTX]

5 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

570 has a way better p/p value

 

Get a used 470 for like 70 bucks I guess 

I have my doubts on that PSU but if it works it works 

I agree, 570 is a better value. Just figured if OP can find a good deal on a used 1050ti, it would be more worth it since his CPU will be the bottleneck here.

1 minute ago, Zediik said:

Isn't the 570 better? I looked up and there is 0 bottleneck

There will be a large bottle neck here. The thing people seem to always misunderstand about bottlenecks..... there is always a bottleneck. Something will always be slower than something else, and it will cause a bottleneck. My 9900k @ 5GHz is causing a bottleneck for my RTX 2080.... if I was running at 5.2 GHz, I would technically get a slight FPS bump. Does this "matter", no, it doesn't. But in your case, a slow quad core haswell era CPU will be just that "slow. It will likely be "fine", I am not saying you have a bad chip especially if you got it for a good price. I am just saying it is slow, and you will likely get about 60% the performance a 570 would get in a Intel 10900k system, depending on the resolution and the game of course.

 

That said, that doesn't mean this is bad. Thats juts how it works.... If you pair a RTX 2080 with that CPU, you will get more FPS than the 570 would, but likely only ~5-10%, which is a horrible value. Its all about value, and price to performance. Your CPU will be a bottleneck, but that doesn't mean if you can't find a used 570 that wouldn't be a good value for you.

[Zediik]

6 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

I agree, 570 is a better value. Just figured if OP can find a good deal on a used 1050ti, it would be more worth it since his CPU will be the bottleneck here.

There will be a large bottle neck here. The thing people seem to always misunderstand about bottlenecks..... there is always a bottleneck. Something will always be slower than something else, and it will cause a bottleneck. My 9900k @ 5GHz is causing a bottleneck for my RTX 2080.... if I was running at 5.2 GHz, I would technically get a slight FPS bump. Does this "matter", no, it doesn't. But in your case, a slow quad core haswell era CPU will be just that "slow. It will likely be "fine", I am not saying you have a bad chip especially if you got it for a good price. I am just saying it is slow, and you will likely get about 60% the performance a 570 would get in a Intel 10900k system, depending on the resolution and the game of course.

 

That said, that doesn't mean this is bad. Thats juts how it works.... If you pair a RTX 2080 with that CPU, you will get more FPS than the 570 would, but likely only ~5-10%, which is a horrible value. Its all about value, and price to performance. Your CPU will be a bottleneck, but that doesn't mean if you can't find a used 570 that wouldn't be a good value for you.

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Xeon_E5-1603_v3/Radeon_RX_570/0DD0YlhC/

 

So this bottleneck calculator isn't correct? Because i was allmost sure that I have allmost perfect GPU for my cpu but i also belive that u are right and it isn't... (Im new to Pc building... U Can clearly see)

[Froody129]

28 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

I agree, 570 is a better value. Just figured if OP can find a good deal on a used 1050ti, it would be more worth it since his CPU will be the bottleneck here.

There will be a large bottle neck here. The thing people seem to always misunderstand about bottlenecks..... there is always a bottleneck. Something will always be slower than something else, and it will cause a bottleneck. My 9900k @ 5GHz is causing a bottleneck for my RTX 2080.... if I was running at 5.2 GHz, I would technically get a slight FPS bump. Does this "matter", no, it doesn't. But in your case, a slow quad core haswell era CPU will be just that "slow. It will likely be "fine", I am not saying you have a bad chip especially if you got it for a good price. I am just saying it is slow, and you will likely get about 60% the performance a 570 would get in a Intel 10900k system, depending on the resolution and the game of course.

 

That said, that doesn't mean this is bad. Thats juts how it works.... If you pair a RTX 2080 with that CPU, you will get more FPS than the 570 would, but likely only ~5-10%, which is a horrible value. Its all about value, and price to performance. Your CPU will be a bottleneck, but that doesn't mean if you can't find a used 570 that wouldn't be a good value for you.

Don't just pull numbers out your ass. A 570 will be fine. Not everyone needs a 5GHz 8 core CPU to play a video game. You are way overestimating bottlenecks. 

 

RX 470/480/570/580 are cheap used and will almost certainly be your best bet. A 1060, as mentioned above, is also good but is usually a bit more expensive for the same performance. Maxwell 970/980 may be worth looking at if they're significantly cheaper. If you can score a 980ti/1070 for a good price they are also awesome cards 

[Zediik]

4 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

Don't just pull numbers out your ass. A 570 will be fine. Not everyone needs a 5GHz 8 core CPU to play a video game. You are way overestimating bottlenecks. 

 

RX 470/480/570/580 are cheap used and will almost certainly be your best bet. A 1060, as mentioned above, is also good but is usually a bit more expensive for the same performance. Maxwell 970/980 may be worth looking at if they're significantly cheaper. If you can score a 980ti/1070 for a good price they are also awesome cards 

I agree... I don't need 2080 but nobody told me to buy it... He just picked his setup for comparison... And won't 1070 be bottlenecked much by cpu?

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Zediik said:

And won't 1070 be bottlenecked much by cpu?

The 1603 is meh and decent but not this decent 

Yes it will 

[LIGISTX]

37 minutes ago, Zediik said:

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Xeon_E5-1603_v3/Radeon_RX_570/0DD0YlhC/

 

So this bottleneck calculator isn't correct? Because i was allmost sure that I have allmost perfect GPU for my cpu but i also belive that u are right and it isn't... (Im new to Pc building... U Can clearly see)

No, the calculator is not very accurate at all unfortunately. That why my explanation is so... over the top. Will it bottlebeck, yes it will. Is that "a big problem", no, its not. Any GPU will perform better with a faster CPU, but its a price to performance question. It makes no sense spending an extra 300 bucks on a top line Intel CPU to get a say, RTX 2060 to go 10% faster than  it would on a Ryzen 3600, because your better off spending that money on getting a RTX 2080 super instead which will up your FPS by much, much more than 10%, even on that Ryzen 3600... Would the 2080 super get more on a 10900k @ 5.3 GHz all core turbo, yes it will. But..... is it "worth it", well thats another question, and most would say no its not worth it.

 

13 minutes ago, Froody129 said:

Don't just pull numbers out your ass. A 570 will be fine. Not everyone needs a 5GHz 8 core CPU to play a video game. You are way overestimating bottlenecks. 

 

RX 470/480/570/580 are cheap used and will almost certainly be your best bet. A 1060, as mentioned above, is also good but is usually a bit more expensive for the same performance. Maxwell 970/980 may be worth looking at if they're significantly cheaper. If you can score a 980ti/1070 for a good price they are also awesome cards 

Um... I certainly am not pulling anything out of my ass. Clearly you did not read what I actually wrote.... No, of course everyone does not need a 10900k, in 99% of cases it doesn't even make sense to buy one. Will it gain more FPS -yes it will, does it matter- no, likely it doesn't. This is just an extreme way to define "bottlenecking" since its SO misunderstood. A 570 will not live up to its full potential on his CPU, but thats just how the cookie crumbles. Its not a horrible match, I am just point out the fact it won't get as much FPS as benchmarks would suggest it will, unless you can find a benchmark from a 2.8 GHz hasswell i5 with a 570. IF you can, that will give you the performance OP should expect. That WILL be less than what most benchmark sites quote a 570 getting. Remember, a 2.8 GHz haswell is not a lot of power in todays day and age, thats all im saying. Don't misunderstand the point I am making, and read what I posted just above your quote to understand why.

[LIGISTX]

Well that edit went to shit, somehow it double posted...

[Staidey]

11 hours ago, Zediik said:

I don't know what psu is in there, it's some 700 w with no sticker on it, i just know that it's 700 w with two 6 pin cables

 

Budget... Somewhere around the same price like the RX 570

no sticker really? Throw that away. Dont use chinese nonames psu if you dont have some NASA House Stable electricity