Building a Streaming/Gaming/Editing PC

[JQNX]

Hey guys, I am new on here and asking for your opinion to improve my planned build. I had some parts in mind that are a pretty good deal atm. (except for gpu) What do you think?

 

Budget (including currency): 2500€

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Adobe Master Collection, FPS Games (everything on 1080p 240 Hz)

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Here are some parts I had in mind: 

Motherboard: Asus Rog Corsshair Hero VIII Wifi

CPU: Ryzen 9 3900X

CPU Cooler: NZXT X63 (thought about the Noctua D15 chromax but I dont know.. Performance on the x63 is fine and looks... + dont want the cooler over the ram in case of upgrading)

Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (for now..)

GPU: Gigabyte Aorus 2080 Super 

Case: Thermaltake S500 TG, black

Power Supply: Corsair RM 850 (1000 Watt for OC needed?)

Storage: Samsung EVO Plus 970 512 GB SSD

Storage 2: Seagate Barracuda 2 TB HDD

Im not sure about the parts but the 3900X is pretty cheap rn and I think combined with the Crosshair these two are a pretty futureproof combo.

Not sure if I need another fan for the best possible air flow. In the thermaltake case are 2 fans preinstalled (1 back, 1 front).

Thinking of overclocking in the future. 

 

 

[Mateyyy]

For 1080p 240Hz one could argue that a 10700K/10900K would be a better choice, but AMD's Zen 3 might close down even this advantage of Intel's; Nvidia's Ampere cards are supposedly coming out in September too, hence why it'd probably be a better idea to wait until then to build a PC.

 

That being said, if you were to build now, you could definitely improve that build in terms of value:

You could drop the motherboard to an ASUS Strix X570-E or MSI X570 Tomahawk without losing out on anything relevant (heck you could even go with a TUF X570-PLUS and still be fine).

I'd personally go for an air cooler instead. Something like a DRP4 or NH-D15 won't be far behind a 280mm AIO in terms of cooling performance, while being significantly more reliable and potentially quieter.

Get an RM650x or Straight Power 11 650W instead of the RM850. That system will maybe consume around 450W at full (unrealistic) 100% load. Even a good 550W unit would power that just fine.

Unless you can get the 970 EVO for a good price, you can typically get similarly performing SSDs for cheaper, like the Sabrent Rocket, ADATA SX8200 Pro, HP EX950 or Silicon Power A80.

Arguably you could also drop the CPU to a 3700X, which would still probably be enough for gaming and streaming, but on that note you could also stream using NVENC, therefore removing most of the load on the CPU.

With the money saved, you could upgrade to 32GB of RAM, which could potentially be useful for streaming and editing.

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	€433.89 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	€73.89 @ Aquatuning
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	€218.89 @ Mindfactory
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	€103.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€118.79 @ Mindfactory
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€63.39 @ Mindfactory
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card	€1193.99 @ Mindfactory
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	€98.72 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€116.89 @ Alternate
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€2422.35
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 11:54 CEST+0200

 Wait for 4th gen and the new Ampere GPUs 

[SavageNeo]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	€433.89 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler	€73.99 @ Aquatuning
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	€162.90 @ ARLT
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	€184.89 @ Alternate
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€161.89 @ Alternate
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€63.39 @ Mindfactory
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card	€1193.99 @ Mindfactory
Case	Corsair iCUE 220T RGB Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case	€102.80 @ Alza
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€94.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan	Thermaltake Pure 12 ARGB TT Premium Edition 56.45 CFM 120 mm Fans	€57.89 @ Alternate
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€2530.53
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 11:57 CEST+0200

 

[JQNX]

43 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

For 1080p 240Hz one could argue that a 10700K/10900K would be a better choice, but AMD's Zen 3 might close down even this advantage of Intel's; Nvidia's Ampere cards are supposedly coming out in September too, hence why it'd probably be a better idea to wait until then to build a PC.

 

That being said, if you were to build now, you could definitely improve that build in terms of value:

You could drop the motherboard to an ASUS Strix X570-E or MSI X570 Tomahawk without losing out on anything relevant (heck you could even go with a TUF X570-PLUS and still be fine).

I'd personally go for an air cooler instead. Something like a DRP4 or NH-D15 won't be far behind a 280mm AIO in terms of cooling performance, while being significantly more reliable and potentially quieter.

Get an RM650x or Straight Power 11 650W instead of the RM850. That system will maybe consume around 450W at full (unrealistic) 100% load. Even a good 550W unit would power that just fine.

Unless you can get the 970 EVO for a good price, you can typically get similarly performing SSDs for cheaper, like the Sabrent Rocket, ADATA SX8200 Pro, HP EX950 or Silicon Power A80.

Arguably you could also drop the CPU to a 3700X, which would still probably be enough for gaming and streaming, but on that note you could also stream using NVENC, therefore removing most of the load on the CPU.

With the money saved, you could upgrade to 32GB of RAM, which could potentially be useful for streaming and editing.

Thank you very much for your reply. Would you drop some parts to go with the 2080Ti instead? Or maybe save the money, go with a 2070 Super and upgrade to an Ampere? 

I just sold my pc and now I am looking for something to replace it. 

 

 

[Mateyyy]

12 minutes ago, JQNX said:

Thank you very much for your reply. Would you drop some parts to go with the 2080Ti instead? Or maybe save the money, go with a 2070 Super and upgrade to an Ampere? 

I just sold my pc and now I am looking for something to replace it. 

Oh, I see.

Well personally I wouldn't get a 2080Ti when there's the 2080S which offers most of its performance at a significantly lower price (still expensive nonetheless). I'd probably get the cheapest RTX card that offers great performance now, will still have decent resell value and people might be looking for on the used market, so a 2060 or 2060S, sell that before Ampere launches and getting one of the new cards then. Or if you don't want to bother with that just get a 2080S, keep it and call it a day, it's still a very fast card.

Either way, we don't have any official data on how Ampere cards will perform compared to their current-gen Turing counterparts yet, and we can't know for certain how that launch and potential discount of Turing cards will affect the used market pricings.

[JQNX]

Okay, can you check the updated build one last time? 

I really want to order asaaap

 

Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite 

AMD 9 3900X

Noctua NHD15

G.Skill Ripjaws 5 32 GB 3600

Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super Gaming OC Rev. 2

Thermaltake S500 TG 

Corsair RM650

Samsung Evo 970

= 2100 €

[Mateyyy]

17 minutes ago, JQNX said:

Okay, can you check the updated build one last time? 

I really want to order asaaap

 

Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite 

AMD 9 3900X

Noctua NHD15

G.Skill Ripjaws 5 32 GB 3600

Gigabyte RTX 2080 Super Gaming OC Rev. 2

Thermaltake S500 TG 

Corsair RM650

Samsung Evo 970

= 2100 €

Looks good, here's something for just over €2000:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	€433.89 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	€73.89 @ Aquatuning
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	€239.90 @ ARLT
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€139.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€139.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	€763.79 @ Mindfactory
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	€101.34 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€116.89 @ Alternate
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€2009.59
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-25 13:17 CEST+0200

Not a whole lot different except for the motherboard which is better, but doesn't have the stealthy all-black look.

 

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