Overheating Issues

[BeholdenArt]

My laptop GPU sits at 80degree when i play some heavy AAA titles and CPU sits at 90-95degree, is it going to harm my laptop over long run??

(It has Predator Sense Software from where I increses my fan speed to 6000rpm)

Laptop Spec:

CPU : intel i5 - 9300H

GPU : Nvidia Gtx 1650

[Semper]

Unfortunately, one of the sacrifices made in a lot of laptops is cooling. It's normal for laptops to run hot.

do your best to give it room to breathe, keeping it off of soft surfaces that can impede airflow and trap heat helps out a bit.
External fans can help as well
https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-Cooling-Pads-External-Fans/b?ie=UTF8&node=2243862011

[5x5]

95 is pretty damn bad for the components. Ideally, you want to be under 90 on the CPU and under 85 on the GPU at all times

[Darkseth]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/191075/intel-core-i5-9300h-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html

 

Intel allows 100°C for the CPU. So unless you hit 101°C, it is NOT overheating.

But it's far up near the Limit.

 

 

My advice: Try Intel XTU: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU

And Undervolt your CPU a little bit.
How exactly: There are a few guides on Youtube i suppose (i never used that tool myself, but many people use it to undervolt their CPU in the Notebook, because it's not possible in the Bios).

[BeholdenArt]

On 4/28/2020 at 11:41 PM, Semper said:

Unfortunately, one of the sacrifices made in a lot of laptops is cooling. It's normal for laptops to run hot.

do your best to give it room to breathe, keeping it off of soft surfaces that can impede airflow and trap heat helps out a bit.
External fans can help as well
https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-Cooling-Pads-External-Fans/b?ie=UTF8&node=2243862011

I've tried cooling fans before, and they don't make very minute difference...

Thanks though

 

[BeholdenArt]

On 4/28/2020 at 11:47 PM, 5x5 said:

95 is pretty damn bad for the components. Ideally, you want to be under 90 on the CPU and under 85 on the GPU at all times

agreed! 

I'm looking for ways to reduce the temps but haven't found anything yet...

[BeholdenArt]

On 4/29/2020 at 3:59 AM, Darkseth said:

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/191075/intel-core-i5-9300h-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html

 

Intel allows 100°C for the CPU. So unless you hit 101°C, it is NOT overheating.

But it's far up near the Limit.

 

 

My advice: Try Intel XTU: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU

And Undervolt your CPU a little bit.
How exactly: There are a few guides on Youtube i suppose (i never used that tool myself, but many people use it to undervolt their CPU in the Notebook, because it's not possible in the Bios).

Thanks, I'll try it out

(Are there any "side effects" or harms or loses that occur after undervolting a CPU?)

[Semper]

9 minutes ago, BeholdenArt said:

Thanks, I'll try it out

(Are there any "side effects" or harms or loses that occur after undervolting a CPU?)

Similar to overclocking, you have the potential of stability issues.
Unlike some overclocking situations though, you're doing the opposite by introducing less heat generation. This will be better for your components over all.

[5x5]

18 minutes ago, BeholdenArt said:

I've tried cooling fans before, and they don't make very minute difference...

Thanks though

 

Undervolt the CPU with Intel XTU, undervolt or downclock the GPU with afterburner, maybe consider disabling Intel Turbo Boost from power plan settings

[Darkseth]

43 minutes ago, BeholdenArt said:

Thanks, I'll try it out

(Are there any "side effects" or harms or loses that occur after undervolting a CPU?)

If you undervolt TOO much, it will cause freezes etc. Then just UV slightly less.

 

Every Clock rate X needs a Voltage Y to run stable. More voltrage is okay (but causes more Heat), less not.

 

Your CPU runs at a certain Clock X.

With UV you need to find out the minimum Voltage Y, that still runs stable.

 

Maybe google some Notebook UV threads, so you can find some numbers for orientation.

I would probably try -0,10 Volt offset. if that works, -0,15, -0,20 etc.

Untill it crashes during stability tests.
Then i increase the Voltage by 1-2 steps again, and it should be save.

[5x5]

47 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

If you undervolt TOO much, it will cause freezes etc. Then just UV slightly less.

 

Every Clock rate X needs a Voltage Y to run stable. More voltrage is okay (but causes more Heat), less not.

 

Your CPU runs at a certain Clock X.

With UV you need to find out the minimum Voltage Y, that still runs stable.

 

Maybe google some Notebook UV threads, so you can find some numbers for orientation.

I would probably try -0,10 Volt offset. if that works, -0,15, -0,20 etc.

Untill it crashes during stability tests.
Then i increase the Voltage by 1-2 steps again, and it should be save.

Pretty much this. When I undervolted my ultrabook I started at -70, then -80, then -90 and at -100 it crashed. I dialed it back to -85 and it's perfectly stable and 5C cooler.

 

Do avoid adding voltage though, that's catastrophic in laptops

[raziel4635]

I had the same issues with my hp pavilion with i7 8750 and GTX1060.

 

a laptop stand/fan will help to keep your temps lower for some time but in the end they will start rising again as time passes.

meaning that if your laptop can hit 90 degrees without a fan,it will still hit 90 degrees with a cooling fan just 20-30 minutes later.

 

what REALLY helped was installing throttlestop and following some youtube videos to undervolt the cpu.

at -100V there was a massive improvement in heat with instant -10,-15 degrees less.

 

the video I used also suggested to underclock the cpu to 3.4Ghz as well and that made even bigger difference with temps as low as -30 overall and practically no performance loss since the 8750 is a pretty powerful cpu to begin with

 

my laptop used to go to 90-95 when playing games casually and even saw it hit 100 when playing anthem,that's when I decided to try and fix things and now it practically never goes over 70 when gaming and idle in windows at around 30

 

my recommendation is to google undervolting for your specific cpu and if possible underclock it even a bit.

 

[BeholdenArt]

On 5/3/2020 at 10:43 PM, 5x5 said:

Undervolt the CPU with Intel XTU, undervolt or downclock the GPU with afterburner, maybe consider disabling Intel Turbo Boost from power plan settings

Is undervolting both CPU and GPU necessary?
Can't I just undervolt my CPU to improve the temps ???

[BeholdenArt]

On 5/3/2020 at 11:12 PM, Darkseth said:

If you undervolt TOO much, it will cause freezes etc. Then just UV slightly less.

 

Every Clock rate X needs a Voltage Y to run stable. More voltrage is okay (but causes more Heat), less not.

 

Your CPU runs at a certain Clock X.

With UV you need to find out the minimum Voltage Y, that still runs stable.

 

Maybe google some Notebook UV threads, so you can find some numbers for orientation.

I would probably try -0,10 Volt offset. if that works, -0,15, -0,20 etc.

Untill it crashes during stability tests.
Then i increase the Voltage by 1-2 steps again, and it should be save.

If I undervolt it too much and the system crashes, is it gonna harm/affect the system in any way??

 

[BeholdenArt]

On 5/4/2020 at 3:02 AM, raziel4635 said:

I had the same issues with my hp pavilion with i7 8750 and GTX1060.

 

a laptop stand/fan will help to keep your temps lower for some time but in the end they will start rising again as time passes.

meaning that if your laptop can hit 90 degrees without a fan,it will still hit 90 degrees with a cooling fan just 20-30 minutes later.

 

what REALLY helped was installing throttlestop and following some youtube videos to undervolt the cpu.

at -100V there was a massive improvement in heat with instant -10,-15 degrees less.

 

the video I used also suggested to underclock the cpu to 3.4Ghz as well and that made even bigger difference with temps as low as -30 overall and practically no performance loss since the 8750 is a pretty powerful cpu to begin with

 

my laptop used to go to 90-95 when playing games casually and even saw it hit 100 when playing anthem,that's when I decided to try and fix things and now it practically never goes over 70 when gaming and idle in windows at around 30

 

my recommendation is to google undervolting for your specific cpu and if possible underclock it even a bit.

 

Okayy, Thanks

 

[Darkseth]

1 hour ago, BeholdenArt said:

If I undervolt it too much and the system crashes, is it gonna harm/affect the system in any way??

 

Except that it did crash this once.. Not really. It should be (nearly?) impossible to damage anything at all.

If it crashes, it means it's not stable.
Reboot, go down with clock rate OR up with Voltage, and try again, untill it doesn't crash.

[5x5]

1 hour ago, BeholdenArt said:

Is undervolting both CPU and GPU necessary?
Can't I just undervolt my CPU to improve the temps ???

Do both - they put out serious heat.

[Rame343]

On 5/4/2020 at 3:02 AM, raziel4635 said:

I had the same issues with my hp pavilion with i7 8750 and GTX1060.

 

a laptop stand/fan will help to keep your temps lower for some time but in the end they will start rising again as time passes.

meaning that if your laptop can hit 90 degrees without a fan,it will still hit 90 degrees with a cooling fan just 20-30 minutes later.

 

what REALLY helped was installing throttlestop and following some youtube videos to undervolt the cpu.

at -100V there was a massive improvement in heat with instant -10,-15 degrees less.

 

the video I used also suggested to underclock the cpu to 3.4Ghz as well and that made even bigger difference with temps as low as -30 overall and practically no performance loss since the 8750 is a pretty powerful cpu to begin with

 

my laptop used to go to 90-95 when playing games casually and even saw it hit 100 when playing anthem,that's when I decided to try and fix things and now it practically never goes over 70 when gaming and idle in windows at around 30

 

my recommendation is to google undervolting for your specific cpu and if possible underclock it even a bit.

 

I signed up just now cause i have been looking all over for this. Can you tell me how you under clocked your cpu to 3.4ghz. Is it the base clock or higher?