First PC build, need double checking

[GazzaMate]

Hey guys I have done a small bit of research into my build but I just need some double checks and opinions. Quick background, I want to play mostly FPS games like csgo and Rainbow 6 at 1080p on a 144hz monitor, my budget is around $2300 Australian or $1500 USD. So the questions I have are;

1) Does my PSU have enough wattage

2) Is the GPU a good quailty pick

3) Is it worth spending the extra $50 for a MSI Nvidia RTX 2070 VENTUS GP 8G when I only want to play at 1080p (Also I dont want to switch to a Radeon GPU)

4) Will I need to do a BIOS Update (as in get a spare CPU from Ryzen) or is the motherboard "fine" with the CPU.

5) Is Ryzen's own CPU cooler enough

6) Do I need to purchase any extra cabels or themal paste, ect

6) What is a good $100 USD gaming keyboard

 

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MKnpMc)

Type|Item
:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor]
**Motherboard** | [MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard]
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory]
**Storage** | [Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive]
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive]
**Video Card** | [MSI GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card]
**Case** | [Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case]
**Power Supply** | [Cooler Master MWE Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply]

 
 

[WambleCropped]

@GazzaMate Yes you will need to update bios, for the keyboard depends on what kind of feel you want for the keyboard. I would go for a non stock cooler for a 3rd gen cpu, it would be "enough" but it would get a little toasty. I would say the extra 50 isn't really worth it, it's a marginal FPS increase. Most coolers come with thermal paste these days, your GPU quailty is good i use MSI for my cards as well.

[Mateyyy]

1) Yes.

2) The Ventus isn't really a great pick, as it might run louder than other cards because of its fairly small heatsink.

3) The 2070 offers an unnoticeable performance advantage over the 2060S, so no. Also, why don't you want to consider AMD?

4) MSI's "MAX" boards are ready for Ryzen 3000 out of the box, so no.

5) It's alright for stock speeds.

6) No, assuming you already have a display cable for your monitor.

 

Also, the 970 Pro isn't worth it unless you're using it as a scratch disk. Get a 970 Evo, Sabrent Rocket, Adata SX8200 Pro or HP EX950, you could get a 1TB version for either drive for that money.

[SavageNeo]

this is around what you are looking at: 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$328.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$204.70 @ Device Deal
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$141.00 @ Amazon Australia
Storage	Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$165.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card	$1278.00 @ Shopping Express
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	$94.60 @ Newegg Australia
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$169.00 @ Austin Computers
Case Fan	ARCTIC P12 PWM PST(5-pack) 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans	$49.54 @ Amazon Australia
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2429.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-22 02:33 AEST+1000

 

 

[GazzaMate]

1 minute ago, WambleCropped said:

@GazzaMate Yes you will need to update bios, for the keyboard depends on what kind of feel you want for the keyboard. I would go for a non stock cooler for a 3rd gen cpu, it would be "enough" but it would get a little toasty. I would say the extra 50 isn't really worth it, it's a marginal FPS increase. Most coolers come with thermal paste these days, your GPU quailty is good i use MSI for my cards as well.

When updating BIOS do I just take the PC to my local computer guy and get them to do it or is there an easier way of doing it?

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, GazzaMate said:

When updating BIOS do I just take the PC to my local computer guy and get them to do it or is there an easier way of doing it?

that build what i posted has already been bios updated to support the ryzen 5 3600

[Shrekpad]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$328.00 @ Shopping Express
Motherboard	MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$202.30 @ Device Deal
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$134.20 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$110.00 @ Amazon Australia
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$94.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card	$945.00 @ Shopping Express
Case	Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$179.00 @ Skycomp Technology
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2091.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-22 02:34 AEST+1000

All MSI MAX boards come with the updated bios out of the box, like the one I chose. A rx 5700xt would be your best option, it is the same price as a 2060 super yet better.

[WambleCropped]

1 minute ago, GazzaMate said:

When updating BIOS do I just take the PC to my local computer guy and get them to do it or is there an easier way of doing it?

you can do it yourself. But there is no need MAX boards are ready out of the box my mistake

[GazzaMate]

2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

that build what i posted has already been bios updated to support the ryzen 5 3600

So do you think it would be better getting the 3600 instead of the 3600x?

[GazzaMate]

1 minute ago, WambleCropped said:

you can do it yourself. But there is no need MAX boards are ready out of the box my mistake

ok thanks

[WambleCropped]

1 minute ago, GazzaMate said:

So do you think it would be better getting the 3600 instead of the 3600x?

the perfomrnace increase is marginal for an 18% increase in price

[Shrekpad]

1 minute ago, GazzaMate said:

So do you think it would be better getting the 3600 instead of the 3600x?

Yes, it’s not worth the extra money for slightly higher clock speeds especially when you can just over clock it.

[GazzaMate]

I dont do editing or streaming but I may run CAD and rendering software as I need it for my uni corse. 

[Shrekpad]

Just now, GazzaMate said:

I dont do editing or streaming but I may run CAD and rendering software as I need it for my uni corse. 

Yeah, should be good for that.

[GazzaMate]

Just now, Shrekpad said:

Yeah, should be good for that.

ok well I think thats all, I will submit a final build in about 5 min.

Thx everyone for your help 

[GazzaMate]

I am pretty sure this will be the final build, final question, do I need a CPU cooler? (will not overclock)

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LJ9C9G

[GazzaMate]

@Shrekpad Sorry final thing, I was planning on getting the parts from both umart and MSY but are the prices and websites on pcpartpicker reliable, ie can I just get all the parts from pcpartpicker?

 

[Shrekpad]

3 minutes ago, GazzaMate said:

@Shrekpad Sorry final thing, I was planning on getting the parts from both umart and MSY but are the prices and websites on pcpartpicker reliable, ie can I just get all the parts from pcpartpicker?

 

Not sure in Australia, but here in the US they have reliable retailers.

[Shrekpad]

7 minutes ago, GazzaMate said:

I am pretty sure this will be the final build, final question, do I need a CPU cooler? (will not overclock)

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LJ9C9G

No, you most likely won’t run into temp issues with stock cooling.

[GazzaMate]

2 minutes ago, Shrekpad said:

No, you most likely won’t run into temp issues with stock cooling.

Well I think that raps it up, thanks for your help

[Guest]

I would take either of these psu's over the Corsair RM.

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/zDMTwP/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0650fnfagu-1

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/VbhmP6/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-650f14hg

 

I would also get this SSD if you don't already own the 970 EVO.

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/fsqhP6/team-mp34-512-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4512g0c101