need help to control case fan

[klein77]

hello guys,

my first topic here, nice to share with you.

i come too ask some help today, i just buy stuff and encounter a problem, this is the list of new things that bother me actually.

new case: antec p120 crystal

new cpu: amd ryzen r9 3900x

fans: 3x be quiet silent wings 3 140mm

fan controller: nzxt rgb and fan controller

 

first i buy a case because with gpu change 3 month ago my old one was not big enough, so i finally buy a new one. And discover a new problem with the r9 3900x.

In a case it REALLY HOT, like it reach 92° in there with heavy game. part of the problem is my gpu was 1cm away from the cpu radiator, so i just buy a rizer a put the card vertically.

With that i tried to put some fan and it make a good difference, i only take 3 actually because in the case they are 7 fan "slot".

3x 120mm in front i keep for 360mm aio (later) 3x140mm on bottom(actually 2 are take by the fan told up there) and 1x 140mm behind with the final fan installed.

The nzxt controller has for purpose to control fans but CAM software is a pure mess and cant control other fan than nzxt one, confirm by the support ticket i made.

 

it's here i need your help, i searched a good fan controller who can control the fan i have actually and another one that will come in the futur.

 

sorry for the really bad english. ask if you need more explanation, thank.

[Entropy.]

3 minutes ago, klein77 said:

 

 

IDK how to help you, besides inform you that you have no priorities whatsoever. I can see a crappy ITX motherboard in a ATX case with trash power delivery, and atx case, horribly routed cables, and overall a shitty build considering it packs a 3900x. 

 

[Metallus97]

10 minutes ago, InnerBeast Gaming said:

IDK how to help you, besides inform you that you have no priorities whatsoever. I can see a crappy ITX motherboard in a ATX case with trash power delivery, and atx case, horribly routed cables, and overall a shitty build considering it packs a 3900x. 

 

chill bro. no need to be offensive.... I cant even see the PSU how you knwo that it is trash?

Besides that cable management is ok but could be a bit better.

 

The mobo: yeha... 

[Metallus97]

17 minutes ago, klein77 said:

 

Did you try to connect the fans to the mobo and control them from there?

Also it looks like the back fan is done as a intake?

That should be exhaust so it can blow away the heat from the CPU. 

Idd recommend putting the fans you have in the bottom now in the front as intakes. 

 

Besides that a vertical mounted GPU looks cool but in most cases isn’t the best option for airflow and GPU cooling.

 

Also a 3900x is pretty hot. I strongly recommend getting a good aftermarket cooler for it. Noctua or beQuiet would be something premium 

 

 

About the mobo: wich motherboard model is that? This looks way underpowered for a 3900x and could also be a source of heat because the VRM on it wont be verry efficiaent and run on the edge of melting (ok it is not that bad but not reccoemded for a 3900x)

[LogicalDrm]

I don't quite understand what you are asking here? Sounds like you did already do something, before asking on what you should do. So only thing I will comment is that back of GPU doesn't radiate enough heat to have major effect on CPU cooling. The problem with CPU cooling is that you have powerful CPU, possibly with auto-OC going on and using stock cooling. The 3rd gen Ryzen has some issues with stock cooling on the higher end of lineup.

[klein77]

i will try to answer to everyone with one post, forgive me if i skip one question.

 

the crappy ITX motherboard is a asus a320m-k i bought with my previous r5 2600x. upgrade is planned but not priority, because i want to take a pci-e 4.0 motherboard for my rx 5700xt you see here. i don't do it now because 200 € for a BAD card who is 50% KO out of the box is expensive or at least it is what i see in commentary of ldlc.

 

 

the psu is a corsair TX650M GOLD 650 WATTS semi-modular so i don't see any problem here and its brand new. I don't care having a 100€ cable because i don't see the benefits other than look cool wich is not my priorities now.

sorry for the cable management i do my best but as you can see i'm not that good. i don't knom how to do it another way for the 2x  8 pci-e of the gpu wich is the best cable i got with the PSU.

 Thanks for any recommendation about that.

 

 

actually the three fan is connect on the fan chan 1 of the motherboard and work properly. the fan next to the cpu is an "outtake"  for the heat generate by the cpu, the other two on bottom is intake.

(i know outtake its not the right term, i don't know how to say it)

 

 

the vertical GPU is like that because my CRAPPY motherboard have the pci-e really close from the cpu. when the GPU is on it normally there is only 5mm between the cpu cooler and the backplate, and in game cpu and gpu reach 90 °, i do that because now that never exceeds 68 °. i agree it's not the best for the airflow but i can't do anything better now with my CRAPPY motherboard.

 

 

ASUS says the motherboard can take the 3900x and no problem actually happen with it, so if it work...

YES, the cpu run with the factory overclock thing from ryzen , i don't touch anything and i'm not planning to overclock now or in the futur.

 

 

For the cpu like i said the aio is planned but i just spend like 1200 € in that computer in 2 month, the rest will come probably in two or three month.

the aio i'm looking for is the Deepcool Gamer Storm Castle 360RGB V2 : https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00278249.html

i'm gonna look for a be quiet if that one is not that good.

i know ldlc is not the best website for price.

 

 

My first question was i bought that: https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00305624.html

after connect my 3 fan on it, they just go between 0 to 300 rpm and it's impossible to do something about the speed.

i contact nzxt support and they told me that:

 

I do apologize that you are experiencing an issue. We cannot guarantee other brand fans would work properly with the CAM software as the CAM software was made specifically with NZXT products. I do apologize for any issues this may cause.

 

I send a mail to ldlc to return that thing because i can't use it.

And Now i want your help to found another "FAN HUB" who will work with my fan.

i don't let my fan on my mobo because I can't put more than three fan on it and its actually easier to control it with a hub.

at the end it should be 7 fan: 1 140mm on the left of the cpu as outtake, 3 140mm on the bottom as intake and the 3 120mm of the aio on the right as outtake.

 

Brok3n But who cares? i take note of your commentary even if its a little over negative for no reason. maybe your computer is outstanding, very expensive, your sickened looking at our broke computer and i'm dumb as fuck.

 

i put another picture where i arranged my mobo alimentation cable (to save your beautifull eyes guys ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) )

 

Thank for you reply guys, it's good to know some people want to help for free in this world.

[LogicalDrm]

21 hours ago, klein77 said:

the vertical GPU is like that because my CRAPPY motherboard have the pci-e really close from the cpu. when the GPU is on it normally there is only 5mm between the cpu cooler and the backplate, and in game cpu and gpu reach 90 °, i do that because now that never exceeds 68 °. i agree it's not the best for the airflow but i can't do anything better now with my CRAPPY motherboard.

 

Thats odd. GPU is getting full on fresh air from bottom fans.

 

21 hours ago, klein77 said:

ASUS says the motherboard can take the 3900x and no problem actually happen with it, so if it work...

YES, the cpu run with the factory overclock thing from ryzen , i don't touch anything and i'm not planning to overclock now or in the futur.

 

I would advice that you turn that off. It will bring temps down and you probably won't notice difference in performance.

 

21 hours ago, klein77 said:

I send a mail to ldlc to return that thing because i can't use it.

And Now i want your help to found another "FAN HUB" who will work with my fan.

i don't let my fan on my mobo because I can't put more than three fan on it and its actually easier to control it with a hub.

at the end it should be 7 fan: 1 140mm on the left of the cpu as outtake, 3 140mm on the bottom as intake and the 3 120mm of the aio on the right as outtake.

 

Pretty much any hub with 6-8 headers and SATA connector. The fans will follow one curve which they get from the header connected to motherboard. Though NZXTs hub should have worked too. They have something wrong with it, and are too lazy to fix it.

[klein77]

i'm gonna try the commander pro from corsair then. hope this one will work.

thanks for the help guys.

[dipanjanforever]

 

 

 

hey bro 
i have the same case & its great.

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ASUS says the motherboard can take the 3900x and no problem actually happen with it, so if it work...

YES, the cpu run with the factory overclock thing from ryzen , i don't touch anything and i'm not planning to overclock now or in the futur.

 

3900x is compatible with a320m-k but it cant handle a 12core  105 watts processor.Because it does not have that kind of a vrm or power delivery.Which means more voltage & more heat. That mobo is designed for 45w cpus mayb a 65w cpu & then if that cpu is running AUTO or PBO or AUTO OVERCLOCK your cpu is gonna throttle for sure with that stock cooler & in auto settings Ryzen cpu pulls more voltage. What i can suggest you is to under-volt the cpu & lower your clock speed a bit to 3.6ghz // 3.7ghz. If you use your setup for gaming you won't see any difference. But it will lower your temp drastically.

 

2nd thing is move your 2 fans from bottom to side intake . your gpu is getting all the fresh air & your cpu is getting all the hot air which is exhausting from the gpu.  Even without a dedicated fan your gpu will run fine but your 3900x will throttle for sure.    

About the fan controller dont spend extra money on corsair commander pro. Get a cheap DEEPCOOL FH-10 it will cost you $17 a corsair commander pro costs around $67.

i personally use a ryzen 3800x with asus b350-f strix  undervolt to 1.275v was stable at 4.3Ghz 

 

And i use deepcool fan hub with 4 pwm  connector & i've a corsair h115i & 2 140mm intake at bottom & every thing is connected to that fan hub which i then plug into the pwm of h115i & control everything from corsair link. Rear fan is 140mm fan which is connected to mobo.