Coming Back To PC Gaming (Build Advice) For $1200

[DustinShelley]

TLDR: I want/need a new gaming rig, gifted my old one to brother. Have the peripherals, but no components yet. Plan to stream 1080p60fps, price at $1200 USD. I play Escape From Tarkov and Ghost Recon: Breakpoint mostly.

 

The Full Version: I sold my old gaming rig (Ryzen 1700, GTX 1060, 16GB DDR4) to my brother and went on a quest to find a suitable cloud based service to replace my physical box. That was six months ago and I regret getting rid of my pc. Rather than buying it back, I figured I could make a new one, with more recent and better components tailored to what I'm trying to do. Stream, game at 1080p 60fps with details cranked, and maybe edit my Nvidia Highlights in Premeire (if Nvidia ends up being my GPU lol). So, with a slightly flexible budget of $1200 USD (no OS, monitor, or peripherals needed) to get the entire PC, what would get me the best performance for my money? Prefer AMD but not married to the idea

[DVAShun]

ryzen 2200g

msi x370 pro gaming carbon

gtx 1080 ti/rx 580

16gb ddr4 ram

 

[LienusLateTips]

3 minutes ago, DVAShun said:

ryzen 2200g

msi x370 pro gaming carbon

gtx 1080 ti/rx 580

16gb ddr4 ram

 

Some really bad advice...

 

2200G??? Why when the 1600 exists

X370 boards are all OOS

 

1080 Ti????

 

 

 

OP, PCPP list coming in a couple minutes.

[DVAShun]

i use a 1600 for my own with a 1070 sc but ive had others tell me to use a 2200 which i figured must be better

 

my setup is

b450 max tomahawk

1070 sc

ryzen 5 1600

2x8gb vengeance lpx

i only stream wow classic but everything runs at the best fps. so if thats something you think would work, id go with it

 

i just figured mine runs well on everything but people keep saying to get a ryzen 2200 and 1080ti. just some advice im passing on.

[LienusLateTips]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($298.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($147.00 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  ($369.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ B&H) 
Total: $1195.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 03:37 EDT-0400

 

-R7 3700X for optimal x264 streaming.

-RX5700XT for optimal value for money (better than 2060S, 2070S)

-Excellent airflow and good looks with P300A Mesh

-Excellent and quiet PSU

-1TB SSD and 2TB HDD

 

3 minutes ago, DVAShun said:

i use a 1600 for my own with a 1070 sc but ive had others tell me to use a 2200 which i figured must be better

 

my setup is

b450 max tomahawk

1070 sc

ryzen 5 1600

2x8gb vengeance lpx

i only stream wow classic but everything runs at the best fps. so if thats something you think would work, id go with it

 

i just figured mine runs well on everything but people keep saying to get a ryzen 2200 and 1080ti. just some advice im passing on.

That's really bad advice. Might be somewhat decent for a really old game like WOW classic, but will absolutely STRUGGLE in modern games. Especially in streaming or recording X264. Outdated too, with the advent of Navi and Turing.

[DustinShelley]

4 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

He streams, 4 cores won't be enough. Also, he has USD$1200 to work with, he can get more than a Ryzen 3. You also don't need an X*70 Motherboard for Ryzen 3, that's overkill. And the 1080Ti and RX580 are not comparable.

 

Here's what I recommend:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card  ($499.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($124.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1224.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-07 03:35 EDT-0400

Do you think a 6 core would be enough to get the job done? I was running the 1700 8 core previously, and while I'm not sure if my settings were causing the issue, I did see stuttering on stream.

[DustinShelley]

2 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

RX5700XT for optimal value for money (better than 2060S, 2070S)

Do we have evidence for this? That seems like a bold claim from Team Red lol

[DustinShelley]

1 minute ago, NZgamer said:

Yes, it's recommended now that you have a minimum of 6 cores for streaming so that the game and stream play nicely. Maybe you might want to optimise your stream settings and game settings for streaming

I assume the 2070's built on encoding chip won't take up resources for streaming, should I use that part of the GPU then? Apologies for the questions, just want to build it the best I can.

[DVAShun]

That 3700x seems like a good option for you.

@DustinShelleyask away. nobody minds. i am learning myself and am building my second build currently so this is helping me too.

[DustinShelley]

1 minute ago, DVAShun said:

That 3700x seems like a good option for you.

@DustinShelleyask away. nobody minds. i am learning myself and am building my second build currently so this is helping me too.

here's a crazy idea: would splitting the budget in half and building two rigs (gaming and streaming rigs) make sense?

[DustinShelley]

1 minute ago, NZgamer said:

Yes, since you want to stream, I recommend that you get an Nvidia card for the Nvenc encoder.

Awesome, thanks man

[DVAShun]

i would say no. i would say this, be sure you want to stream as investing money into it will ensure a ROI. i built a computer that will run anything I want but I only use one game and that is WoW classic.

 

if you want to stream, buy the best gear you can without budgeting yourself. thats my opinion. if you stream and get 100 viewers constantly, you dont want to risk a stutter issue or risk a budget built.

[LienusLateTips]

18 minutes ago, DustinShelley said:

Do we have evidence for this? That seems like a bold claim from Team Red lol

 

And that's considering the 5700XT at $400. It's like $360-370 now.

17 minutes ago, DustinShelley said:

I assume the 2070's built on encoding chip won't take up resources for streaming, should I use that part of the GPU then? Apologies for the questions, just want to build it the best I can.

The quality will be a bit worse than the x264 encoder. If you're going that route, the 6 core will be enough.

 

[DustinShelley]

1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

 

And that's considering the 5700XT at $400. It's like $360-370 now.

The quality will be a bit worse than the x264 encoder. If you're going that route, the 6 core will be enough.

 

Color me surprised, it actually does match up. I think the 2070 sold me with it's streaming chip though. Thanks anyway!

[LienusLateTips]

1 hour ago, DustinShelley said:

Color me surprised, it actually does match up. I think the 2070 sold me with it's streaming chip though. Thanks anyway!

If you go with the 2070, go for a 6 Core Ryzen chip instead. Perfectly fine for gaming alone.