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Upgrade time to AMD. But been out of the loop.

Its that time to upgrade my own PC and move the parts down the line (2 kids). 

Now i had Intel for a long time (my latest AMD was an Athlon XP) so i am completely out of the loop AMD CPU wise and what combinations work best (memory, chipset, ect)

I have of course seen the Ryzens rise :D So going for that now.

 

So my questions are:

- Motherboard wise, last few years used Asrock (previous ASUS) is that a good brand for AMD or do i need to switch?

- Chipsets. I have no clue what is best / optimal

- Memory, from what i hear its important to get the optimal Mhz?

- CPU wise, i usually do not buy the very top end but just a tad lower. So never an i7 but the highest i5 in most cases. What is the equivalent in AMD?

- Any good youtube guides and or articles i can watch/read? 

 

Thanks in advance.

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3 minutes ago, Dujith said:

Its that time to upgrade my own PC and move the parts down the line (2 kids). 

Now i had Intel for a long time (my latest AMD was an Athlon XP) so i am completely out of the loop AMD CPU wise and what combinations work best (memory, chipset, ect)

I have of course seen the Ryzens rise :D So going for that now.

 

So my questions are:

- Motherboard wise, last few years used Asrock (previous ASUS) is that a good brand for AMD or do i need to switch?

- Chipsets. I have no clue what is best / optimal

- Memory, from what i hear its important to get the optimal Mhz?

- CPU wise, i usually do not buy the very top end but just a tad lower. So never an i7 but the highest i5 in most cases. What is the equivalent in AMD?

- Any good youtube guides and or articles i can watch/read? 

 

Thanks in advance.

Budget? Aim?

 

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3 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Budget? Aim?

Flexible atm, like i said not top end but high mid tier.

For reference atm on an i5 6600 with a 1070 (which i will upgrade at a later time)

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I would go for an R5 3600 and a B450 MAX, but I'd wait for Ryzen 4000.

Another thing that could be considered is Intel 10th gen, the performance should be on par with ryzen 3000 but with a bit better clock speeds, the TDP will be huge though

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Secondary PC [Why did I bother]:

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Sony SAL-75300 75-300mm ƒ/4.5-5.6

Meike MK-50mm ƒ/1.7

 

PSA: No, I didn't waste all that money on computers, (except the main one) my server cost $40, the intel NUC was my old PC (although then it had 8GB of ram, I gave the bigger stick of ram to a person who really needed it), my laptop is used and the second PC is really cheap.

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6 minutes ago, Dujith said:

Flexible atm, like i said not top end but high mid tier.

For reference atm on an i5 6600 with a 1070 (which i will upgrade at a later time)

But that is the aim of the build ? Editing or gaming or both? Or just normal use 

 

of you want a ‘lasting’ upgrade perhaps look 3600 or 3800x w/ B450 tomahawk Max or x570 aurus as example. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

But that is the aim of the build ? Editing or gaming or both? Or just normal use 

Gaming and normal use like Office, some light coding (visual studio).

But like i asked in my original post, i'm looking for info on chipsets and cpu's and what memory is best matched.

So looking for some recent guides or youtube channels that tackle these kind of things.

 

10 minutes ago, mbntr said:

I would go for an R5 3600 and a B450 MAX, but I'd wait for Ryzen 4000.

There is always something to wait for :D, as for Intel gen 10: It feels like they just strapped a rocketbooster to their CPU and it will be a power hungry hot beast.

So... no :S 

 

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1 hour ago, Dujith said:

Gaming and normal use like Office, some light coding (visual studio).

But like i asked in my original post, i'm looking for info on chipsets and cpu's and what memory is best matched.

So looking for some recent guides or youtube channels that tackle these kind of things.

 

There is always something to wait for :D, as for Intel gen 10: It feels like they just strapped a rocketbooster to their CPU and it will be a power hungry hot beast.

So... no :S 

 

Chipsts either a B450 tomahawk MAX or grab a X570 board.

 

As for CPU's aything 3600, 3800, 3900

 

ram speed: 3600mhz tight Cl so cl16 3600mhz is fine.

 

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3 hours ago, Dujith said:

Gaming and normal use like Office, some light coding (visual studio).

But like i asked in my original post, i'm looking for info on chipsets and cpu's and what memory is best matched.

So looking for some recent guides or youtube channels that tackle these kind of things.

 

There is always something to wait for :D, as for Intel gen 10: It feels like they just strapped a rocketbooster to their CPU and it will be a power hungry hot beast.

So... no :S 

 

yeah true, it may have similar performance but it will consume more electricity than my oven...

Main PC [The Rig of Theseus]:

CPU: i5-8600K @ 5.0 GHz | GPU: GTX 1660 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000 MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480 GB |  HDD: 2x 6 TB WD Red| Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 11 Pro for Workstations

 

Secondary PC [Why did I bother]:

CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000 MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS 650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX | OS: Windows 11 Pro for Workstations

 

Server [Solution in search of a problem]:

Model: HP DL360e Gen8 | CPU: 1x Xeon E5-2430L v1 | RAM: 12 GB DDR3 1066 MHz | SSD: Kingston A400 120 GB | OS: VMware ESXi 7

 

Server 2 electric boogaloo [A waste of electricity]:

Model: intel NUC NUC5CPYH | CPU: Celeron N3050 | RAM: 2GB DDR3L 1600 MHz | SSD: Kingston UV400 120 GB | OS: Debian Bullseye

 

Laptop:

Model: ThinkBook 14 Gen 2 AMD | CPU: Ryzen 7 4700U | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200 MHz | OS: Windows 11 Pro

 

Photography:

 

Cameras:

Full Frame digital: Sony α7

APS-C digital: Sony α100

Medium Format Film: Kodak Junior SIX-20

35mm Film:

 

Lenses:

Sony SAL-1870 18-70mm ƒ/3.5-5.6 

Sony SAL-75300 75-300mm ƒ/4.5-5.6

Meike MK-50mm ƒ/1.7

 

PSA: No, I didn't waste all that money on computers, (except the main one) my server cost $40, the intel NUC was my old PC (although then it had 8GB of ram, I gave the bigger stick of ram to a person who really needed it), my laptop is used and the second PC is really cheap.

I like tinkering with computers and have a personal hatred towards phones and everything they represent (I daily drive an iPhone 7, or a 6, depends on which one works that day)

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4 hours ago, Dujith said:

Its that time to upgrade my own PC and move the parts down the line (2 kids). 

Now i had Intel for a long time (my latest AMD was an Athlon XP) so i am completely out of the loop AMD CPU wise and what combinations work best (memory, chipset, ect)

I have of course seen the Ryzens rise :D So going for that now.

 

So my questions are:

- Motherboard wise, last few years used Asrock (previous ASUS) is that a good brand for AMD or do i need to switch?

- Chipsets. I have no clue what is best / optimal

- Memory, from what i hear its important to get the optimal Mhz?

- CPU wise, i usually do not buy the very top end but just a tad lower. So never an i7 but the highest i5 in most cases. What is the equivalent in AMD?

- Any good youtube guides and or articles i can watch/read? 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

-Motherboard: All the big names makes great boards, Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte, MSI etc.  I have found that with the latest X570 chipset and BIOS, Gigabyte probably has the most information specifically about their BIOS out there.  

 

-Chipset: If you're going with the latest CPU's then in my opinion, just get an X570 board.  You can use B450, X470 and they technically work, but it seems like every other day a topic comes up about a B450 mobo not working well with a Ryzen 3000 series CPU.  The MSI B450 Tomahawk seems to be the B450 board that everyone recommends, and many youtube folks have used, so if you do want to go B450 just get that one.

 

-Memory: Anything 3200 - 3600 speed is ideal.  It's not necessarily worth it to spend the extra cash on CL15 and lower.  CL16 is more than capable, and the advantages gained by lower CL ratings and timings is negligible by most standards.  

 

-CPU: Go with Zen 2, (AKA: Ryzen 3000) There are R5, R7 and R9 chips to choose from.  R6 = 6 Core, R7 = 8 Core and R9 = 12 -16 core.  For a Vaaaast majority of use cases, the R5 3600x or the R7 3700x will work great.  The 3600x is kind the current king of the "bang for  your buck" performance market right now.  I've done a build for a friend with a 3600x and my personal build has a 3700x, they are both fantastic.  The 3700x is a better choice if you're doing any sort of multi threaded work load, but for strictly gaming, pick whatever one fits your budget.  At $199 the 3600x is hard not to go with though.

 

-There are PLENTY of Youtube guides out there, the problem is that next to none of them have been updated.  Almost all of them are from the product launch time, and it didn't launch very smoothly.  BIOS and chipset drivers were funky, the X570 motherboards have fans over the chipsets that used to make noise, but BIOS updates have turned the fan off.  All that stuff is sorted out now.  Buildzoid at Actual Hardcore Overclocking seems to the only one doing updated videos on the topic.  

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