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5870 or 5970?

Twiggy1995

Hello.

So I have a bit older of a gaming system which currently has a Radeon 4870 in it, and it is pretty good. Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 run great with every graphical setting on max, Far Cry 2 plays great on "high", and even Crysis is playable on "medium".

The weakest link, I think is the RAM, being only ddr2 400mhz, so I just ordered 4GB (2X2GB) of Partiot G Series 1066mhz ddr2.

The processor is a core 2 duo 3.0ghz.

I think the much faster RAM should be a great step towards making this machine even more powerful, but I am also thinking that down the road maybe I should upgrade the GPU yet again?

However I am not sure if It'd work, I mean if I got something like a 5870 or 5970 could the processor possibly be a bottle neck and should I upgrade it?

Then I am not quite sure if I could physically fit a 5970 in the case, because it appears it is a pretty long card, and the 4870 already was hard to install in that sense.

From my research the 5970 seems to be the better one, but the 5870 is still pretty damn good, for the time, and both would be a big upgrade over the 4870.

So would a better GPU be worth it, and if so, which one of these would make the most sense, it seems 5970s from my research are going for higher prices than 5870s, would it be worth the higher price?

Last but not least the PCI-E slot on the board is a 1.1 x16 slot, I saw somewhere that the 5870 doesn't max out a PCI-E 2.0 x8 slot, so it should be fine in the 1.1 x16 slot, but I have no idea about the 5970, could it's performance in my system be limited by the 1.1 x16 slot?

Thanks.

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Honestly I would not spend money on obsolete hardware that is going to give little to no benefit to your system. Saving up for an entire platform switch in a year or so is a better option than getting a couple more frames out of your current pc. The only thing I could recommend as a long-term investment is buying an SSD with dram cache such as a MX500. This will improve general system responsiveness and isn't a waste of money, as it can be carried over to your next computer.

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14 minutes ago, Twiggy1995 said:

Hello.

So I have a bit older of a gaming system which currently has a Radeon 4870 in it, and it is pretty good. Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 run great with every graphical setting on max, Far Cry 2 plays great on "high", and even Crysis is playable on "medium".

The weakest link, I think is the RAM, being only ddr2 400mhz, so I just ordered 4GB (2X2GB) of Partiot G Series 1066mhz ddr2.

The processor is a core 2 duo 3.0ghz.

I think the much faster RAM should be a great step towards making this machine even more powerful, but I am also thinking that down the road maybe I should upgrade the GPU yet again?

However I am not sure if It'd work, I mean if I got something like a 5870 or 5970 could the processor possibly be a bottle neck and should I upgrade it?

Then I am not quite sure if I could physically fit a 5970 in the case, because it appears it is a pretty long card, and the 4870 already was hard to install in that sense.

From my research the 5970 seems to be the better one, but the 5870 is still pretty damn good, for the time, and both would be a big upgrade over the 4870.

So would a better GPU be worth it, and if so, which one of these would make the most sense, it seems 5970s from my research are going for higher prices than 5870s, would it be worth the higher price?

Last but not least the PCI-E slot on the board is a 1.1 x16 slot, I saw somewhere that the 5870 doesn't max out a PCI-E 2.0 x8 slot, so it should be fine in the 1.1 x16 slot, but I have no idea about the 5970, could it's performance in my system be limited by the 1.1 x16 slot?

Thanks.

I would not invest in this system. You can easily get a used i5 system for under 100 and put like a 1050ti in there and it will be so much better than your current system.

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I think the core 2 duo will bottleneck even th 5870...

The 5970 isn't worth it, it will consume more power and it's just two 5870 in one gpu, if a game doesn't support crossfire it will perform like a 5870.

And performance wise, the 5870 is amazing, i was running it last year in my main pc, then I upgraded to a gtx 1660.

The HD 5870 performs a bit better that a GT 1030, and it is fast enough to play meny games in a cometitive manner, gs:go runs perfectly fine and fortite is ok too, also the 5970 is huge

Main PC [The Rig of Theseus]:

CPU: i5-8600K @ 5.0 GHz | GPU: GTX 1660 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000 MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480 GB |  HDD: 2x 6 TB WD Red| Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 11 Pro for Workstations

 

Secondary PC [Why did I bother]:

CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000 MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS 650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX | OS: Windows 11 Pro for Workstations

 

Server [Solution in search of a problem]:

Model: HP DL360e Gen8 | CPU: 1x Xeon E5-2430L v1 | RAM: 12 GB DDR3 1066 MHz | SSD: Kingston A400 120 GB | OS: VMware ESXi 7

 

Server 2 electric boogaloo [A waste of electricity]:

Model: intel NUC NUC5CPYH | CPU: Celeron N3050 | RAM: 2GB DDR3L 1600 MHz | SSD: Kingston UV400 120 GB | OS: Debian Bullseye

 

Laptop:

Model: ThinkBook 14 Gen 2 AMD | CPU: Ryzen 7 4700U | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200 MHz | OS: Windows 11 Pro

 

Photography:

 

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Full Frame digital: Sony α7

APS-C digital: Sony α100

Medium Format Film: Kodak Junior SIX-20

35mm Film:

 

Lenses:

Sony SAL-1870 18-70mm ƒ/3.5-5.6 

Sony SAL-75300 75-300mm ƒ/4.5-5.6

Meike MK-50mm ƒ/1.7

 

PSA: No, I didn't waste all that money on computers, (except the main one) my server cost $40, the intel NUC was my old PC (although then it had 8GB of ram, I gave the bigger stick of ram to a person who really needed it), my laptop is used and the second PC is really cheap.

I like tinkering with computers and have a personal hatred towards phones and everything they represent (I daily drive an iPhone 7, or a 6, depends on which one works that day)

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So it seems 5870, it is. And maybe a better processor down the road too.

I do feel the need to state that this is not my main computer, this is one of my older one's, which I am just trying to "max out" for the fun of it.

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