I need help with building my PC.

[bryankasino]

Hello, I am building a PC so that I can play FiveM (aka Gta Rp) and lots of other games and I was wondering if this was a good setup: AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, MSI B450 Tomahawk Max, G.Skill RipJaws V Series 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600Mhz, Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB,  ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2060 Super Advanced Overclocked EVO 8G. Should I change anything ? Also, can anyone help me find a case that is under $100 and can fit everything listed above. Thank you.

[RadiatingLight]

Nearly all cases that are ATX size can fit those parts.

Generally, you should emphasize your GPU above other things. Try get a Ryzen 3600 and RTX 2070 Super

use pcpartpicker.com for making your build -- it'll tell you everything you need. Also don't forget a power supply.

 

If you tell me your region (US, UK, CANADA, etc.) and your budget I can make you a list.

[bryankasino]

4 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Nearly all cases that are ATX size can fit those parts.

Generally, you should emphasize your GPU above other things. Try get a Ryzen 3600 and RTX 2070 Super

use pcpartpicker.com for making your build -- it'll tell you everything you need. Also don't forget a power supply.

 

If you tell me your region (US, UK, CANADA, etc.) and your budget I can make you a list.

Region: US Budget: Around $1300

[bryankasino]

10 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

That Ryzen 7 is kinda overkill for GTA 5, my Ryzen APU could run it. Maybe you could try a 3600 or 1600AF. Also, what's your country and currency code?

If its overkill, would it run it smoother ? Or do you mean overkill in a bad way ? 

[mikestrong88]

I'd say the R7 is a little overkill yes. Unless you'll be doing any productivity work (photo / video editing, music creating etc) then the 3600 is a great CPU. I have one now and it doesn't break a sweat for gaming really 

 

I have a 2060 Super too and it's fantastic but hovers around 75-80% utilisation at all high settings on COD for example. 

 

My biggest "regret" when choosing my parts was storage. I have a 1TB nvme and will need another soon. Some games are huge and quickly eat up storage. For example the latest COD update was 171GB! So 17% gone in a single game (probably more after OS takes it chunk of the 1TB). 

[RadiatingLight]

5 minutes ago, bryankasino said:

Region: US Budget: Around $1300

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$76.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ B&H
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card	$499.99 @ B&H
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$98.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1120.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-31 01:59 EDT-0400

 

You don't even need to spend your full budget.

Get a 3700X if you have money burning a hole in your pocket that you really want to spend.

Get an aftermarket cooler if you want to overclock and/or really like silence.

[mikestrong88]

Just now, bryankasino said:

If its overkill, would it run it smoother ? Or do you mean overkill in a bad way ? 

It's not going to cause any problems. It's just way more than you need, so the money could be better utilisised elsewhere. You'll have a CPU sat there that only uses a fraction of its capabilities and isn't the best investment. 

[RadiatingLight]

2 minutes ago, bryankasino said:

If its overkill, would it run it smoother ? Or do you mean overkill in a bad way ? 

Overkill like buying a Jeep for driving on a gravel road.

Yeah, it'll do it just fine, but so will a plan-old subaru or something.

You'll just have extra power that you're not using.

[bryankasino]

8 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$76.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ B&H
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card	$499.99 @ B&H
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$98.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1120.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-31 01:59 EDT-0400

 

You don't even need to spend your full budget.

Get a 3700X if you have money burning a hole in your pocket that you really want to spend.

Get an aftermarket cooler if you want to overclock and/or really like silence.

do you recommend I buy a 1440p monitor or a 1080p monitor ? Also, that psi won't fry my motherboard would it ?

 

[bryankasino]

10 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

Well it's not overkill in a bad way, if your plan is to play GTA 5, you're just overspending.

Ahhh, ok, I see now 

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, bryankasino said:

do you recommend I buy a 1440p monitor or a 1080p monitor ? Also, that psi won't fry my motherboard would it ?

 

Depends what size you want and how much money you have.

In general, I'd go for a big 1440p monitor if you can. the 2070 Super can definitely handle it.

 

I have a PSU tier list in my signature for future reference, and no that PSU is high quality.

[bryankasino]

10 minutes ago, mikestrong88 said:

It's not going to cause any problems. It's just way more than you need, so the money could be better utilisised elsewhere. You'll have a CPU sat there that only uses a fraction of its capabilities and isn't the best investment. 

Can the Ryzen 5 3600 keep up with a Rtx 2070 super 8g 3x ?

[LienusLateTips]

16 minutes ago, bryankasino said:

Region: US Budget: Around $1300

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB EVOKE OC Video Card  ($367.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ B&H) 
Case Fan: Rosewill RAWP-141411 82 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($13.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $983.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-31 02:09 EDT-0400

 

Honestly, I'd save the money now, and when next gen GPUs come about, sell the GPU and use the $300 spare to get a new one. This is because once you go higher than the 5700XT, the returns seriously diminish.

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, bryankasino said:

do you recommend I buy a 1440p monitor or a 1080p monitor ? Also, that psi won't fry my motherboard would it ?

 

No, you can generally go as high wattage as you want, and it'll only sip the amount you use.

 

I'd recommend a 1440p 144hz monitor at this price range. Perfect middle ground.

2 minutes ago, bryankasino said:

Can the Ryzen 5 3600 keep up with a Rtx 2070 super 8g 3x ?

Yes.

[mikestrong88]

2 minutes ago, bryankasino said:

Can the Ryzen 5 3600 keep up with a Rtx 2070 super 8g 3x ?

Absolutely. 

[bryankasino]

2 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Depends what size you want and how much money you have.

In general, I'd go for a big 1440p monitor if you can. the 2070 Super can definitely handle it.

 

I have a PSU tier list in my signature for future reference, and no that PSU is high quality.

what's the difference between the MSI B450-A PRO MAX and the MSI Tomahawk Max ?

[bryankasino]

1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

No, you can generally go as high wattage as you want, and it'll only sip the amount you use.

 

I'd recommend a 1440p 144hz monitor at this price range. Perfect middle ground.

Yes.

do you think LG is a good brand for a gaming monitor ? I saw good reviews about the LG 32GK650F-B 32 Inch 144hz monitor and was thinking at buying it 

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, bryankasino said:

what's the difference between the MSI B450-A PRO MAX and the MSI Tomahawk Max ?

Aesthetics basically. They both have the same quality of VRM (CPU power delivery) so in terms of overclocking power they are the same.

They might also have slight differences in port placement or other small stuff, but basically it doesn't matter and they're both good boards. The reason we chose the A-PRO is because it's cheaper for the same performance.

[mikestrong88]

4 minutes ago, bryankasino said:

what's the difference between the MSI B450-A PRO MAX and the MSI Tomahawk Max ?

Very little really. One has an extra x1 pci slot and the other supports RAID but that's about it. Other than aesthetics. 

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, bryankasino said:

do you think LG is a good brand for a gaming monitor ? I saw good reviews about the LG 32GK650F-B 32 Inch 144hz monitor and was thinking at buying it 

In general you should look at the product and not the brand. All brands make really good products and also really bad products. (except for maybe luxury brands like apple?, but that's not relevant here)

 

that panel seems like a good option.

[bryankasino]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

Aesthetics basically. They both have the same quality of VRM (CPU power delivery) so in terms of overclocking power they are the same.

They might also have slight differences in port placement or other small stuff, but basically it doesn't matter and they're both good boards. The reason we chose the A-PRO is because it's cheaper for the same performance.

Ahh ok I understand, it won't require an update for the 3rd ten would it ?

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, bryankasino said:

Ahh ok I understand, it won't require an update for the 3rd ten would it ?

Nope.

In general, 400 series boards (B450 and X470) DO require an update, but MSI "MAX" series boards are guaranteed to have been manufactured after the release date of Ryzen 3000 CPUs, and so they do not need a BIOS update.

 

The reason motherboards need BIOS updates is that sometimes the motherboard is manufactured before the CPU, and so the motherboard doesn't 'know' how to talk to a newer CPU.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, bryankasino said:

do you think LG is a good brand for a gaming monitor ? I saw good reviews about the LG 32GK650F-B 32 Inch 144hz monitor and was thinking at buying it 

Get what's a good price and good value. Here's some good options with good reviews:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p4WfrH/msi-optix-mag27cq-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-optix-mag27cq

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bp2bt6/gigabyte-aorus-cv27q-sa-270-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-aorus-cv27q-sa

 

For FPS games generally 32" monitors are considered a little big. 

[bryankasino]

1 minute ago, RadiatingLight said:

Nope.

In general, 400 series boards (B450 and X470) DO require an update, but MSI "MAX" series boards are guaranteed to have been manufactured after the release date of Ryzen 3000 CPUs, and so they do not need a BIOS update.

 

The reason motherboards need BIOS updates is that sometimes the motherboard is manufactured before the CPU, and so the motherboard doesn't 'know' how to talk to a newer CPU.

I have a friend that wants to build a PC with a budget of around $900, can you help me out with that ?

 

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, bryankasino said:

I have a friend that wants to build a PC with a budget of around $900, can you help me out with that ?

 

Sure

 

If he can stretch his budget a bit, this would be a good build:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$76.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ B&H
Video Card	ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB CHALLENGER D OC Video Card	$379.99 @ Newegg
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$43.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$965.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$945.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-31 02:25 EDT-0400

(don't trust mail-in-rebates BTW. They're a pain in the ass and you might not even get the money)

 

If you want to keep it under $900, you could get a cheaper case or cheaper/smaller SSD.

you could downgrade the motherboard to save about $20 to $30 (motherboard tier list in my signature, if you want to pick another board) but that would mean that if you want to buy a beefy CPU in the future (3900X or 3950X in a few years when they get cheap) the motherboard might hold it back.

you COULD also downgrade the GPU to a standard 5700 or 2060 Super, but that would cause a big decrease in gaming performance, so I'd avoid that if possible.