choosing an encoder and streaming with 5mbps upload

[jagomaster74]

In my system, i have a ryzen 5 2600 with a gtx 1660. I've been  hearing that the ryzen 5 2600 is really good for streaming, but i dont know if i should choose x264 encoding or NVENC (explain why please)

 

also, is it possible to stream with 5mbps upload on twitch, if so, what are the best setting in obs for maintaining a good quality stream

 

[SavageNeo]

NVENC is better since it is newer and uses your gpu "better".

3 minutes ago, jagomaster74 said:

In my system, i have a ryzen 5 2600 with a gtx 1660. I've been  hearing that the ryzen 5 2600 is really good for streaming

i mean its decent for streaming but will do the job good.

 

3 minutes ago, jagomaster74 said:

also, is it possible to stream with 5mbps upload on twitch, if so, what are the best setting in obs for maintaining a good quality stream

5 mbps or mb/s. It is possible but with not so good settings.

[WereCatf]

15 minutes ago, jagomaster74 said:

also, is it possible to stream with 5mbps upload on twitch, if so, what are the best setting in obs for maintaining a good quality stream

5Mbps is quite little, considering you'll also need to save some for yourself as well and overhead. In practice, you should target 4Mbps and you'll probably only be able to do 720p@30FPS.

[jagomaster74]

8 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

5Mbps is quite little, considering you'll also need to save some for yourself as well and overhead. In practice, you should target 4Mbps and you'll probably only be able to do 720p@30FPS.

what about the bitrate

[WereCatf]

Just now, jagomaster74 said:

what about the bitrate

I just said, 4Mbps, if your Internet-connection has only 5Mbps up.

[LogicalDrm]

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8 hours ago, jagomaster74 said:

what about the bitrate

8 hours ago, WereCatf said:

I just said, 4Mbps, if your Internet-connection has only 5Mbps up.

4000kbps is way overkill for 720p30. For 720p30 bitrate is 2500-3000kbps. After that the quality gets diminishing returns. For 1080p30 or 720p60 bitrate should be 3000-4500kbps. This is good site to reference to https://stream.twitch.tv/ but I would also recommend testing things out.

[The1Dickens]

10 hours ago, jagomaster74 said:

but i dont know if i should choose x264 encoding or NVENC (explain why please)

x264 is CPU-based, software encoding. NVENC is GPU-based, hardware encoding. There is specific hardware on your GPU to handle the encoding, so it doesn't impact your FPS in any discernible way. The 2600 is deemed good at streaming because it has 6 cores, and typically games utilize 1 'strong' core so the extra cores can be used for encoding while having minimal impact on gameplay, especially while having multiple programs open during a broadcast.

[jagomaster74]

3 hours ago, The1Dickens said:

x264 is CPU-based, software encoding. NVENC is GPU-based, hardware encoding. There is specific hardware on your GPU to handle the encoding, so it doesn't impact your FPS in any discernible way. The 2600 is deemed good at streaming because it has 6 cores, and typically games utilize 1 'strong' core so the extra cores can be used for encoding while having minimal impact on gameplay, especially while having multiple programs open during a broadcast.

so if i use NVENC over x264? the reason im asking is because i have an elgato hd60 pro which connects to the pci-e slot in my computer. I use the capture card for recording my xbox, but i also want to use it to record my pc and want to know if there will be any preformance loss by using the gpu based encoder over the cpu based encoder.

[The1Dickens]

2 minutes ago, jagomaster74 said:

so if i use NVENC over x264? the reason im asking is because i have an elgato hd60 pro which connects to the pci-e slot in my computer. I use the capture card for recording my xbox, but i also want to use it to record my pc and want to know if there will be any preformance loss by using the gpu based encoder over the cpu based encoder.

There should be almost no, if any, performance loss while using NVENC for either set-up. If you'd like to check your streaming performance, you can add something to the end of your stream key (I forgot it, but you can find it on your dashboard) to test stability and performance of your stream. You an also use the r1ch site to probe your stream while streaming to test performance. Just remember to remove the flag from your stream key when you intend to actually stream, if you use that method.

[jagomaster74]

6 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

4000kbps is way overkill for 720p30. For 720p30 bitrate is 2500-3000kbps

Since I have 5mbps upload with an ethernet connection, should i choose to go for 4000kbps, or is it better for me to go below and get 3000kbps

[LogicalDrm]

43 minutes ago, jagomaster74 said:

Since I have 5mbps upload with an ethernet connection, should i choose to go for 4000kbps, or is it better for me to go below and get 3000kbps

It really is best that you test things out by yourself. I have done it multiple times, watching stream on second device and tweaking settings to make it the best looking thing available.

 

Though if you stream to Twitch, its worth noting that unless you are partner or that other upper-tier streamer, your viewers are locked using the "source" encoding. Meaning that if you stream at 4000kbps, they need to match that at download speed to watch without buffering.