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3600MHZ memory on b450 tomahawk and ryzen 3000?

Hi guys, I am currently happy with my system(ryzen 3700x) , but some money has come along and im thinking in upgrading my current RAM (3200MHZ CL16) for a 3600MHz CL16, Im looking into the two models in the links below (both are in portuguese, but the model and name are the same as in english), but my main doubt is: will the b450 tomahawk (non max)+ 3700x run the 3600MHZ ram normally? In MSI`s website it says it only supports up to 3466MHZ (OC), but i think that is due to being a 1st and 2nd gen ryzen board with a BIOS update to 3rd gen, Gskill site says Neo Tridentz are for ryzen 3000 on x570 boards.

 

And if yes, it will work normally, which of them both do i go for???? Crucial Ballistx are cheaper, but since ddr3 i only have experience with G.skill`s memory

 

Thanks!

 

https://www.kabum.com.br/cgi-local/site/produtos/descricao_ofertas.cgi?codigo=104917

https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/110139/mem-ria-crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-rgb-16gb-2x8-3600mhz-ddr4-cl16-vermelha-bl2k8g36c16u4rl

Main rig: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X cooled by a Noctua NH-U14S; Mem: 16 GB(2x8) G.Skill TridentZ White 3200 MHz; GPU: EVGA RTX 2070 XC; MOBO: MSI B450 Tomahawk; Storage: XPG Spectrix S40G M.2 512GB SSD; Kingston A400 480GB SSD; 1TB Western Digital Blue HDD; PSU: Corsair CX750M Semi-modular (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Commander C36.

 

Secondary rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 4790 @3.60GHz(Turbo @4.00GHz) cooled by Corsair H60; Mem: G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 16GB(4x4) OC@2133MHz (11-11-11-30 (1.6V)); GPU: None(for now); MOBO: Gigabyte Z87-HD3; Storage:HyperX 120GB; PSU: Thermaltake SmarT series 750w (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Chaser A41.

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Without checking from memory I believe tomahawk non Max supports 3465mhz ram.

 

dont pin me down on it 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Without checking from memory I believe tomahawk non Max supports 3465mhz ram.

 

dont pin me down on it 

 

 

Yeah, thats what it says on MSI`s website, but as i said in the original post, maybe something due to 1st and 2nd gen ryzens?

Main rig: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X cooled by a Noctua NH-U14S; Mem: 16 GB(2x8) G.Skill TridentZ White 3200 MHz; GPU: EVGA RTX 2070 XC; MOBO: MSI B450 Tomahawk; Storage: XPG Spectrix S40G M.2 512GB SSD; Kingston A400 480GB SSD; 1TB Western Digital Blue HDD; PSU: Corsair CX750M Semi-modular (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Commander C36.

 

Secondary rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 4790 @3.60GHz(Turbo @4.00GHz) cooled by Corsair H60; Mem: G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 16GB(4x4) OC@2133MHz (11-11-11-30 (1.6V)); GPU: None(for now); MOBO: Gigabyte Z87-HD3; Storage:HyperX 120GB; PSU: Thermaltake SmarT series 750w (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Chaser A41.

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19 minutes ago, Mateus Montemor said:

Yeah, thats what it says on MSI`s website, but as i said in the original post, maybe something due to 1st and 2nd gen ryzens?

It would still be the same board. The updated version for zen 2 are the ‘max’ range.

 

i guess the non max remain at 3466. Could also be a B450 chipset thing (wild guess this by the way).

 

MSI B450 Pro Gaming Pro Carbon AC | AMD Ryzen 2700x  | NZXT  Kraken X52  MSI GeForce RTX2070 Armour | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4*8) 3200MhZ | Samsung 970 evo M.2nvme 500GB Boot  / Samsung 860 evo 500GB SSD | Corsair RM550X (2018) | Fractal Design Meshify C white | Logitech G pro WirelessGigabyte Aurus AD27QD 

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1 hour ago, Stormseeker9 said:

It would still be the same board. The updated version for zen 2 are the ‘max’ range.

 

i guess the non max remain at 3466. Could also be a B450 chipset thing (wild guess this by the way).

Well, after giving it a good search in other foruns and MSI`s website I was able to kind of have the solution myself. The memory controller nowadays is on the cpu, so that is gonna decide the memory speed limit, on Zen2 for the b450 tomahawk(non max) compatibility list you can find all the memorys that are compatible, Gskill`s are there, crucial ballistx isnt, i guess im gonna go with that

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Main rig: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X cooled by a Noctua NH-U14S; Mem: 16 GB(2x8) G.Skill TridentZ White 3200 MHz; GPU: EVGA RTX 2070 XC; MOBO: MSI B450 Tomahawk; Storage: XPG Spectrix S40G M.2 512GB SSD; Kingston A400 480GB SSD; 1TB Western Digital Blue HDD; PSU: Corsair CX750M Semi-modular (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Commander C36.

 

Secondary rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 4790 @3.60GHz(Turbo @4.00GHz) cooled by Corsair H60; Mem: G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 16GB(4x4) OC@2133MHz (11-11-11-30 (1.6V)); GPU: None(for now); MOBO: Gigabyte Z87-HD3; Storage:HyperX 120GB; PSU: Thermaltake SmarT series 750w (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Chaser A41.

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