Memory overclock not working

[RsfZOMBIE]

Hi! I want to start this off by saying i'm a total beginner. Now to the problem, i just put in some new ram ddr4 3200 in to my prime b350 plus motherboard. I also got a ryzen 1600x cpu if relevant. I proceeded to bios to turn up the ram speed but got 4 tryes for reebot and then "overclocking failed".. What am i doing wrong? Thank you for your help! 

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2 minutes ago, RsfZOMBIE said:

Hi! I want to start this off by saying i'm a total beginner. Now to the problem, i just put in some new ram ddr4 3200 in to my prime b350 plus motherboard. I also got a ryzen 1600x cpu if relevant. I proceeded to bios to turn up the ram speed but got 4 tryes for reebot and then "overclocking failed".. What am i doing wrong? Thank you for your help! 

I am not sure exactly what you're saying, is the RAM set to 3200mhz and want to push it even further, or is at base 2400mhz and wanna enable the high performance profile (XMP/DOCP).

If its the first then you can't just overclock any RAM stick, sometimes you'll need to tune the timing, the voltage and other settings to get it stable, so its no surprise is crashing.
If its the second one, look for the DOCP/XMP or whatever the name for the high speed profile, you can enable it within the BIOS and it will automatically adjust the frequency and the voltage according to the manufacture's specification .

[RsfZOMBIE]

I think its originally set to 2133 or something like that and i want to use the 3200 mhz, ive went in to bios and manually set it to 3200 but then get over lock failure

[RsfZOMBIE]

[Jurrunio]

Then the memory isnt stable at 3200MHz. Maybe because the memory controller in the CPU doesn't like that (they often don't, 1st gen more often tops at 2933MHz with DOCP), maybe because the board isn't the best from the beginning so it does little to help the weak memory controller.

[RsfZOMBIE]

10 minutes ago, RsfZOMBIE said:

I cant set it to the max speed whitout getting overclock failure. I can choose a higher speed then iam currently using but not the max.. I think both my cpu and motherboard supports up to 3200 tho? 

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I am not sure exactly as I never had an AMD system before, especially not Ryzen (willing to). Reset your BIOS and enable DOCP profile, but don't set the frequency manually, save restart and check.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Then the memory isnt stable at 3200MHz. Maybe because the memory controller in the CPU doesn't like that (they often do, 1st gen more often tops at 2933MHz with DOCP), maybe because the board isn't the best from the beginning so it does little to help the weak memory controller.

Id vote for the CPU limit.

[RsfZOMBIE]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Then the memory isnt stable at 3200MHz. Maybe because the memory controller in the CPU doesn't like that (they often do, 1st gen more often tops at 2933MHz with DOCP), maybe because the board isn't the best from the beginning so it does little to help the weak memory controller.

So if i order a new 3900x cpu it should have no problem running that speed of the ram? 

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1 minute ago, RsfZOMBIE said:

So if i order a new 3900x cpu it should have no problem running that speed of the ram? 

Yeaaa, but I would never pair a 3900x with a b350, not sure if it'll even work to be honest.

Also, at least for the 1st gen Ryzen 2933Mhz vs 3200Mhz won't yield that much of a difference anyway, so if its stable at that frequency then it should be enough.

If you're going to upgrade the CPU to a 3900x, if you need that much power in the first place and can afford it, you might just wanna upgrade the whole thing and insure compatibility and best performance out of it.

[RsfZOMBIE]

The motherboard says it would support a 3900x but should i order a new motherboard to then? 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, RsfZOMBIE said:

The motherboard says it would support a 3900x but should i order a new motherboard to then? 

The board you have will just fall over under 3900x's power draw, so definitely a new board in that case

 

but do you even need a Ryzen 9 for gaming? 3700X is going to feel the same in 99% of games.

[RsfZOMBIE]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

The board you have will just fall over under 3900x's power draw, so definitely a new board in that case

 

but do you even need a Ryzen 9 for gaming? 3700X is going to feel the same in 99% of games.

Hm i guess i wouldnt need it, im just in competition whit my brother so thats the only reason haha, would a ASUS ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING be enough for the new proccessor? Thx alot

[Jurrunio]

25 minutes ago, RsfZOMBIE said:

Hm i guess i wouldnt need it, im just in competition whit my brother so thats the only reason haha, would a ASUS ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING be enough for the new proccessor? Thx alot

Yes, both 3700x and 3900x

[papajo]

What motherboard do you have like brand and model name? and also give us brand and model name of your RAM (if you cant remember or find a receipt then check the sticker on the ram stick) 

[RsfZOMBIE]

2 hours ago, papajo said:

What motherboard do you have like brand and model name? and also give us brand and model name of your RAM (if you cant remember or find a receipt then check the sticker on the ram stick) 

asus B350PLUS, Corsair 16x2 gb ram ddr4 CL 16 vengance

[papajo]

well your mobo supports 3200 under OC mode only, the sticks are not listed in the QVL list (quality vendor list) https://www.asus.com/gr/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/HelpDesk_QVL/ and you have a first gen ryzen which were very picky on what memory they would like to use

 

Try updating your bios maybe with added 3000 series support they fixt some memory issues 

[RsfZOMBIE]

6 hours ago, papajo said:

well your mobo supports 3200 under OC mode only, the sticks are not listed in the QVL list (quality vendor list) https://www.asus.com/gr/Motherboards/PRIME-B350-PLUS/HelpDesk_QVL/ and you have a first gen ryzen which were very picky on what memory they would like to use

 

Try updating your bios maybe with added 3000 series support they fixt some memory issues 

thanks, will def do, i finally got into bios were i instead put them att 2666 mhz and the pc booted, but when i check the memory speed thry windows it shows 1333 hz but shows the right compacity (32 gb)..

[papajo]

3 minutes ago, RsfZOMBIE said:

thanks, will def do, i finally got into bios were i instead put them att 2666 mhz and the pc booted, but when i check the memory speed thry windows it shows 1333 hz but shows the right compacity (32 gb)..

The memory frequency is shown as half what you see on the sticker that is normal if you manage to get it to 3200 it will show 1600 for example