Rush hours

[hellfirofdoom]

I'm aware of the slower internet speed during the night because of the large number of online users, but is it normal for my Internet to suddenly spike at a specific time? My current internet provider is CIK telecom, a Canadian Internet provider, and the reviews are pretty bad. I don't know the exact time my wifi gets worse because it changed (it was exactly 5:30 PM before), but it's probably around noon. It's currently 12:18 PM, and my ping is around 100. 30 min. ago it was constant 47. My friend uses the same internet provider and his internet gets significantly worse at the same time as it does for me. I'm not sure if this is normal, but if it is, what would be the reason for that? Very frustrated and confused about it.

 

 

[berberries]

usually your whole block or couple of blocks share a single connection to something like a "sub-station" If more people hitting it at the same time, you are sharing the same bandwidth with more people resulting in slower internet connection.

[Windows7ge]

From your client to the Router should be unaffected but it can be the case that communication to sites on the WAN can be slowed due to others in the area using all the bandwidth.

 

When a particular ISP has a large number of clients in an isolated area the backbone can feel the stress because ISP's will popularly do the equivalent of thin provisioning where you hand out more to individuals that the infrastructure can actually support. The logic behind this is that not everyone will be using the Internet all at once so they claim they can afford to do it. It allows them to make more money by having more clients without having to upgrade their infrastructure.

 

This can be quite consequental when there are the cases where an area does saturate the pipe supplying all the homes. This results in reduced throughput for everyone and increased ping.

 

For it to happen at a very specific time it sounds like there's probably someone with a automated server or very strict regimen doing some downloading or uploading at this specific time of day each day.

[hellfirofdoom]

@Windows7ge But is that legal? My parents paid for a plan that they expected to be decent, but the Internet they provide makes it so it's completely unplayable. They're paying for a wifi that is at a decent state for hours we're not even awake (wifi gets better at around midnight), so we basically get bad wifi for over 12 hours and decent wifi for 3 hours (considering the average wake up hour).

[Windows7ge]

8 minutes ago, hellfirofdoom said:

@Windows7ge But is that legal? My parents paid for a plan that they expected to be decent, but the Internet they provide makes it so it's completely unplayable. They're paying for a wifi that is at a decent state for hours we're not even awake (wifi gets better at around midnight), so we basically get bad wifi for over 12 hours and decent wifi for 3 hours (considering the average wake up hour).

Laws vary country to country. It sounds like a grey area depending on where you live but in the U.S. it could be considered illegal in court if the ISP promised to deliver certain speeds but their infrastructure couldn't deliver over a majority of the day. It'd basically be false advertising and the ISP would be forced to upgrade or pay compensation but issuing the suit could get expensive for you.

[hellfirofdoom]

@Windows7ge That sure sucks. I'll call the company in question, doubt that'll do anything tho. Thank you for the explanation.

[Kilrah]

Pretty much anywhere I know the advertised speeds are "200Mbps * " with " * up to, best effort" specified in a corner in tiny font.

[Donut417]

2 hours ago, hellfirofdoom said:

I'm aware of the slower internet speed during the night because of the large number of online users, but is it normal for my Internet to suddenly spike at a specific time? My current internet provider is CIK telecom, a Canadian Internet provider, and the reviews are pretty bad. I don't know the exact time my wifi gets worse because it changed (it was exactly 5:30 PM before), but it's probably around noon. It's currently 12:18 PM, and my ping is around 100. 30 min. ago it was constant 47. My friend uses the same internet provider and his internet gets significantly worse at the same time as it does for me. I'm not sure if this is normal, but if it is, what would be the reason for that? Very frustrated and confused about it.

 

 

You do know that the world is on fucking fire right now? Everything is closed or is closing. So all those people who worked at those places are now sitting at home using the internet. 

[hellfirofdoom]

@Donut417 this issue started before the crisis, so I doubt it's what's causing it.

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, hellfirofdoom said:

@Donut417 this issue started before the crisis, so I doubt it's what's causing it.

If it wasnt then it is now. Like I said, they are shutting everything down. The ISP's networks are going to start getting overloaded. Your better off waiting for the crisis to be over before trying to figure out what is happening. 

[beersykins]

23 hours ago, hellfirofdoom said:

wifi

 

23 hours ago, hellfirofdoom said:

wifi

 

23 hours ago, hellfirofdoom said:

wifi

What kind of equipment are you using bro?  What band are you using?  Have you done any sort of frequency analysis?  How dense of a wifi area do you live in?  Something like an apartment is going to suck balls if you're stuck on the ISM band.

[hellfirofdoom]

@beersykins Oh hey sorry for the very late answer, I'm currently using this wireless network adapter and this powerline adapter, although I use wireless most of the times (For some reason, when I connect using the powerline adapter, it always chooses the 2.4G one over the 5G, so I use Wireless most of the time, although there isn't much difference while gaming). My pc is in the basement and my router is on the first floor, I don't think that's the problem tho. As I said in previous posts, the wifi suddenly gets worse at 12:00 PM exact, goes from 44 constant ping to spikes of 100+ in League. This was happening before the COVID-19 outbreak, so I don't think it is the main problem here.