The Paycheck Build?

[MrAxe]

Any thoughts on my new build? Had to replace my old one after an exploding psu. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	£91.97 @ CCL Computers
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£60.93 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	£62.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital Green 240 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£34.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£35.48 @ Aria PC
Video Card	Asus Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card	£139.99 @ AWD-IT
Case	Cougar MG130-G MicroATX Mini Tower Case	£32.97 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	£45.98 @ Currys PC World Business
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£505.30
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-02 16:52 GMT+0000

 

[Fasauceome]

It's a pretty solid build, but some faster ram doesn't hurt. DDR4 3000 isn't all that expensive.

[MrAxe]

4 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

It's a pretty solid build, but some faster ram doesn't hurt. DDR4 3000 isn't all that expensive.

Yeah. I think it's like 2-10 fps in most games? Is around £10 more than 2666 atm. Did consider, I'll see if I can find it cheaper. 

[Jurrunio]

Also, combining SSD and HDD money into a better SSD. You can add HDD(s) in easily as future upgrade. WD Green is really slow among SATA SSDs and does not have DRAM.

[MrAxe]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Also, combining SSD and HDD money into a better SSD. You can add HDD(s) in easily as future upgrade. WD Green is really slow among SATA SSDs and does not have DRAM.

I have a salvage wd blue so that isn't actually costing me anything, also what ssd would you reccomend in that range? 

[ShinRamen]

7 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

Yeah. I think it's like 2-10 fps in most games? Is around £10 more than 2666 atm. Did consider, I'll see if I can find it cheaper. 

3200MHz, CAS16 for £8 more

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/z3VD4D/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tlzgd416g3200hc16cdc01

[dizmo]

• Faster RAM
• These days anything less than a 1TB SSD disgusts me

[MrAxe]

3 minutes ago, dizmo said:

• Faster RAM
• These days anything less than a 1TB SSD disgusts 

I don't mind slower speeds. 

[dizmo]

3 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

I don't mind slower speeds. 

Hurray for lost performance for a little amount of money.

[ShinRamen]

3 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

I don't mind slower speeds. 

Your CPU does though.

[Dedayog]

7 minutes ago, dizmo said:

• Faster RAM
• These days anything less than a 1TB SSD disgusts me

Lol, well said!  Tho I still use a 500GB boot SSD, forgive me?

 

OP, I concur with what folks said above.  Faster RAM and a better SSD.

[MrAxe]

12 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Lol, well said!  Tho I still use a 500GB boot SSD, forgive me?

 

OP, I concur with what folks said above.  Faster RAM and a better SSD.

I know. But prices are rising and a ssd upgrade could be expensive for me since I make minimum wage as a chef. Gonna maybe gets some Patriot viper ram since its alittle cheaper! 

 

Welcoming suggestions for SSDs that are around the same price. But can't splash out on a much bigger one. 

[Retrodex Gaming]

100% swap that SSD for something better than the WD green! You'll thank yourself later during use. 

[Jurrunio]

33 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

I have a salvage wd blue so that isn't actually costing me anything, also what ssd would you reccomend in that range? 

WD Blue SSD 500GB, 1TB one is better value but imo the board could see an upgrade as well

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/LRkj4D/western-digital-blue-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds500g2b0a

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kRTzK8/msi-b450m-pro-vdh-max-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro-vdh-max

[MrAxe]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

WD Blue SSD 500GB, 1TB one is better value but imo the board could see an upgrade as well

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/LRkj4D/western-digital-blue-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds500g2b0a

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kRTzK8/msi-b450m-pro-vdh-max-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-pro-vdh-max

Already own my board and hard drive and the ssd is twice the price or more. I have a budget of £500-£525.

 

Price to performance only matters when you don't have a strict budget. What about a 240gb adata su630? Thats around the same price. 

[Jurrunio]

8 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

Already own my board and hard drive and the ssd is twice the price or more. I have a budget of £500-£525.

You could mark all the parts you have as "already purchased" in the part list

 

8 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

What about a 240gb adata su630? Thats around the same price. 

It's also no better than the WD Green. Both dont have DRAM, WD Green has 2D TLC NAND while SU630 has 3D QLC NAND.

 

For a bit less then you can get the Adata SU650 (no DRAM but at least it has 3D TLC NAND), a bit more the Kingston KC600 (has DRAM).

[MrAxe]

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

You could mark all the parts you have as "already purchased" in the part list

 

It's also no better than the WD Green. Both dont have DRAM, WD Green has 2D TLC NAND while SU630 has 3D QLC NAND.

 

For a bit less then you can get the Adata SU650 (no DRAM but at least it has 3D TLC NAND), a bit more the Kingston KC600 (has DRAM).

Crucial BX550 2.5inch? Has 3d NAND and seems fast enough. I don't need a blazing fast experience, I don't game with alot of tabs or play anything more intensive than Feed the beast and civ 6.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, MrAxe said:

Crucial BX550 2.5inch? Has 3d NAND and seems fast enough. I don't need a blazing fast experience, I don't game with alot of tabs or play anything more intensive than Feed the beast and civ 6.

Crucial seems to be mixing QLC in there, so no.

[MrAxe]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Crucial seems to be mixing QLC in there, so no.

What exactly am i missing out on with a wd Green? 

[MrAxe]

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

Hurray for lost performance for a little amount of money.

50 is not alittle amount of money. Also am I really losing much performance from not spending 10-15 extra on slightly faster ram and a slightly larger ssd? 

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, jstudrawa said:

Lol, well said!  Tho I still use a 500GB boot SSD, forgive me?

 

OP, I concur with what folks said above.  Faster RAM and a better SSD.

Haha, if you already had it, there's no need for forgiveness my child

25 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

50 is not alittle amount of money. Also am I really losing much performance from not spending 10-15 extra on slightly faster ram and a slightly larger ssd? 

Math must not be your strong point, not sure how you got 50 when it's only 8 to upgrade to faster RAM.

And yes, Ryzen needs faster RAM because of how the architecture is designed.

[Jurrunio]

37 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

50 is not alittle amount of money. Also am I really losing much performance from not spending 10-15 extra on slightly faster ram and a slightly larger ssd? 

That would stick around for years? More responsive storage is why you get an SSD as boot drive instead of an HDD, while DRAM boosts its strength further. As for memory, that helps with frame rate stability.

 

If you havent got the PSU, you could also cut cost with the be quiet System Power 9 400w

[MrAxe]

29 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Haha, if you already had it, there's no need for forgiveness my child

Math must not be your strong point, not sure how you got 50 when it's only 8 to upgrade to faster RAM.

And yes, Ryzen needs faster RAM because of how the architecture is designed.

Maybe you aren't good with math either. Laptop direct charges atleast 5 for delivery to me above the 8 and its not a trusted site for me and the 50 was for the larger ssd. You don't have to be rude as well.  3000 isn't 10% better than than 2666 for the price and you are just comparing MHz and not factors like timings between models and companies. 

[MrAxe]

18 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That would stick around for years? More responsive storage is why you get an SSD as boot drive instead of an HDD, while DRAM boosts its strength further. As for memory, that helps with frame rate stability.

 

If you havent got the PSU, you could also cut cost with the be quiet System Power 9 400w

 I don't want to go 400w. That's abit like cutting a pizza with a chainsaw, too risky for me. 

 

The WD Green is an m.2 ssd. I believe that western digital has low failure rates among all their SSDs don't they? 

[Jurrunio]

24 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

 I don't want to go 400w. That's abit like cutting a pizza with a chainsaw, too risky for me

200w for RX 580, 100w for the CPU (no OC of course), dont see why 400w is risky but 450w isn't

 

24 minutes ago, MrAxe said:

The WD Green is an m.2 ssd. I believe that western digital has low failure rates among all their SSDs don't they? 

M.2 is just a form factor, means nothing about performance.

 

Failure rates? No good source from this since not all failures are recorded, but WD Green has 3 year limited warranty. In contrast the SU630 has 2 years originally extended to 3 later, SU650 and BX500 has the same 3 year as Green, KC600 has 5.