What camera to get?

[VestiaryFlea867]

I was wondering whether to get the Canon EOS M50 or the Rebel T6i. Can anyone recommend a camera near the $500-900 range? (Please use the North American names for the cameras

[DailyProcrastinator]

Go mirror-less

 

Edit: Something like the Sony a6000 is a very good entry camera. 

[VestiaryFlea867]

Just now, JM21 said:

Go mirror-less

is the m50 the best $600 body?

[DailyProcrastinator]

1 minute ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

is the m50 the best $600 body?

Yeah I think the M50 is one of the better mirror-less bodies in that price range.

[YellowJersey]

I'm a bit concerned about the future of the Canon M-mount as Canon seems more interested in the R mount. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see the M mount replaced by APS-C R-mount lenses.

In that price range I'd probably try to track down a used Fujifilm X-T2 or X-T30.

 

What do you like to shoot? That would help narrow things down.

[VestiaryFlea867]

18 hours ago, YellowJersey said:

I'm a bit concerned about the future of the Canon M-mount as Canon seems more interested in the R mount. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see the M mount replaced by APS-C R-mount lenses.

In that price range I'd probably try to track down a used Fujifilm X-T2 or X-T30.

 

What do you like to shoot? That would help narrow things down.

I hate being so broad, but, anything that a "normal person" would shoot? I guess vacation photos, landscapes, cities, friends, and the odd video or two. I also forgot about the used market.

[VestiaryFlea867]

I found these listings on Ebay. Are they any good as cameras for under $300? (I know 2 are DSLRs, but they seemed cheap?)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-M6-24-2MP-Digital-Camera-Silver-Kit-w-EF-M-18-55mm-Lens/324090865597?epid=233933237&hash=item4b755227bd:g:6cMAAOSwu1BeXYyt

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-Rebel-T6-18MP-Digital-Camera-6084/293494941589?epid=11034756836&hash=item4455a96795:g:o-wAAOSw1nVeIbd3

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-D5500-24-2MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-Black-Body-Only/124104573716?hash=item1ce5358314:g:1-0AAOSwoGdeXZpc

[YellowJersey]

3 hours ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

I hate being so broad, but, anything that a "normal person" would shoot? I guess vacation photos, landscapes, cities, friends, and the odd video or two. I also forgot about the used market.

Ok, so a little bit of everything. I think a Fuji would suit you quite well, particularly as they have a much wider variety of lenses compared to the Canon M-mount.

Also, I'd probably stay away from the DSLR if you're just starting out as the future is definitely mirrorless and it's always nice not having to switch systems if you can avoid it as you can keep your lenses.

[VestiaryFlea867]

14 hours ago, YellowJersey said:

Ok, so a little bit of everything. I think a Fuji would suit you quite well, particularly as they have a much wider variety of lenses compared to the Canon M-mount.

Also, I'd probably stay away from the DSLR if you're just starting out as the future is definitely mirrorless and it's always nice not having to switch systems if you can avoid it as you can keep your lenses.

Should I go for the X-T2 or X-T30? I looked at specs and prices (used) and they seemed roughly the same? Also, since I might have to get the body only, what are some good "beginner" lenses? Does the camera have good upgradability?

[YellowJersey]

5 hours ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

Should I go for the X-T2 or X-T30? I looked at specs and prices (used) and they seemed roughly the same? Also, since I might have to get the body only, what are some good "beginner" lenses? Does the camera have good upgradability?

Tough call. The X-T30 has a much broader autofocus system so you can focus pretty much anywhere on the frame as well as a newer sensor and touch screen functionality whereas the XT-2 has weather sealing and a bit better EVF. If you don't plan on shooting out in extreme weather, then I'd go for the X-T30. 

 So far as upgradeability, you're primarily looking at lenses. Fortunately, Fuji has a very well fleshed out lens lineup. If you're looking for one lens to cover you in most situations, 18-135mm 3.5-5.6 R LM OIS lens might be one to look out for. I shot with a 24-105mm Canon as my only lens for years. Alternatively, the 18-55mm 2.8-4 OIS lens comes bundled with the X-T30 and I hear good things about it, so you might be able to pick up the combo used for a good price.

[GDRRiley]

m6 mk2

a6500

X-T30

 

I still love the forgotten canon SL2 and SL3.

SL3 body only are around 550$, grab a few spare batteries and then some decent used lenses.

75-300 III (USM can be nice)

50mm (yongnuo's clone is 40-50$ and does fine)

24mm canon pancake lens

[YellowJersey]

On 3/3/2020 at 8:23 PM, GDRRiley said:

m6 mk2

a6500

X-T30

 

I still love the forgotten canon SL2 and SL3.

SL3 body only are around 550$, grab a few spare batteries and then some decent used lenses.

75-300 III (USM can be nice)

50mm (yongnuo's clone is 40-50$ and does fine)

24mm canon pancake lens

The SL2 and SL3 are great value and great cameras right now. I hesitate to recommend them, however, as I don't see a clear upgrade path without going into full frame and the price tags that come with it. I'd hate to see someone get into a system without much of a future, which DSLR APS-Cs are certainly facing. Having switched systems (Canon to Sony), it's a real pain in the ass and rather expensive, so I feel more comfortable recommending something like Fuji that is clearly committed to its APS-C system.

 

[GDRRiley]

6 minutes ago, YellowJersey said:

The SL2 and SL3 are great value and great cameras right now. I hesitate to recommend them, however, as I don't see a clear upgrade path without going into full frame and the price tags that come with it. I'd hate to see someone get into a system without much of a future, which DSLR APS-Cs are certainly facing. Having switched systems (Canon to Sony), it's a real pain in the ass and rather expensive, so I feel more comfortable recommending something like Fuji that is clearly committed to its APS-C system.

 

well you can mount both EF and EF-S on RF cameras with a 100$ adapter.

90d would be an upgrade. I'd expect another one of those unless cannon drops the eos RP even lower.

[VestiaryFlea867]

How big of a switch is it going from an optical viewfinder to an electronic viewfinder? I always prefer to use a viewfinder rather than the touchscreen.

[YellowJersey]

4 hours ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

How big of a switch is it going from an optical viewfinder to an electronic viewfinder? I always prefer to use a viewfinder rather than the touchscreen.

EVFs these days are pretty good. I prefer them over OFVs as you can see your exposure in-viewfinder. If you're on the fence, try going to into a camera shop and having a bit of hands-on time with them?

[GDRRiley]

9 hours ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

How big of a switch is it going from an optical viewfinder to an electronic viewfinder? I always prefer to use a viewfinder rather than the touchscreen.

I've only used optical or screens, so I can't comment.

as @YellowJersey said go try it

[ThePointblank]

7 hours ago, YellowJersey said:

EVFs these days are pretty good. I prefer them over OFVs as you can see your exposure in-viewfinder. If you're on the fence, try going to into a camera shop and having a bit of hands-on time with them?

It really depends on the exact camera, as some EVF's are terrible, with low resolution and refresh rates. The only way to know is to test one in realistic conditions, and to check the reviews on a good website to see if they mention anything about the EVF.

[YellowJersey]

Timely video is timely.

(DPReview comparison of Canon M50, Sony A6100, Fuji X-T200)

 

[GDRRiley]

4 hours ago, YellowJersey said:

Timely video is timely.

(DPReview comparison of Canon M50, Sony A6100, Fuji X-T200)

 

DPR also has this https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-cameras-under-1000

[VestiaryFlea867]

13 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

DPR also has this https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-cameras-under-1000

After watching the reviews and doing my own research, I think I will get a Fuji, but i'm unsure whether to get the X-T2, X-T30, or X-T200. Should I just see, if I get used, which has the lowest price and lowest wear?

[GDRRiley]

man that is a confusing product stack I don't fully understand it nor am I awake enough to

[YellowJersey]

4 hours ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

After watching the reviews and doing my own research, I think I will get a Fuji, but i'm unsure whether to get the X-T2, X-T30, or X-T200. Should I just see, if I get used, which has the lowest price and lowest wear?

For your consideration:

 

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/4687361201/which-is-best-for-you-the-fujifilm-x-t200-or-x-t30