Need help upgrading

[AlienDin]

Hi everyone,

Before I start, specs:

GTX KFA2 1070 (shitty brand, dont buy)

I5 7600k 4,7 Ghz

16 gb 3000 Mhz ram

1080p ips monitor, 60hz

So, I will (hopefully) graduade high school in the next couple of months and will get some money from my parents. I am 16. I will get about 400 euros and want to upgrade something from my setup but I am really lost to what I should upgrade. My gpu, cpu or my monitor. I posted this a few days back and got told to get some benchmarks and say which games I most like to play.

I mostly play big singleplayer games, a lot of them are open world but I play linear games too. I occasionally play online with some friends, but it is nothing compared to how much I play and love singleplayer story type games.

I will get a budget about 400 euro's. I can get a few things with that: A i7 9700k, a rtx 2070 or new really nice monitor. Can be 1440p and also can be 3440x1440 ultrawide. This next thing is important, after this upgrade I wont be able to upgrade for probably about 3-5 years. So I cant get a thing now and get another one in about a year.

Here are the benchmarks:

NOTE: All these games have vsync off

**Resident Evil 2 Remake ULTRA settings, 1080p**

CPU: 70-85%, 50-53 degrees celcius (I will only say degree from now)

GPU: 98-100%, 80-82 degrees

70-90 fps (which I can ofcourse not see because my monitor doest go that high)

**Red Dead Redemption 2, mix of medium, high and ultra settings. (I can give specifics if it is important)**

This one varied a lot, and so there are a few different bechmarks

When in the wild, so places like the heartlands:

CPU: 60%

GPU: 98-100%

When in small towns like Valentine and Strawberry:

CPU: 80-95%

GPU:98-100%

When in the biggest city, saint denis (lot of buildings and npcs)

GPU: 80-95%

CPU: 90+%

FPS, also varies

Heartlands: 50-60 fps

Smalltowns: 40-50 fps

Saint denis: 40-50fps

The cpu was 60 degrees and gpu was 80-83 degrees.

**Witcher 3: Wild hunt**

In velen, so a open area roaming around:

CPU: 50-65% with random 0,5 seconds spikes to 100% once in a while

GPU: 96-100%

Novigrad (big city, full of buildings and a lot of npc's)

CPU: 100%

GPU: 98-100%

CPU stayed about 60 degrees and the gpu about 80 degrees

 

Now with all that done, which do you guys recommend I get. I dont want to go lower than 60fps, higher isnt a necessity. I also dont really want to drop to low settings. I really want to play at atleast high-ultra with some settings turned to medium. What do you guys recommend me to upgrade?

I appreciate the help btw, thanks in advance. Sorry for spelling mistakes if there are any english isnt my first language.

EDIT: added gpu degrees

[boggy77]

If you can sell your current cpu, mobo and gpu for about 350 euros, you can get this

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	€176.99 @ Mindfactory
Motherboard	MSI B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€86.77 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Dual EVO Video Card	€439.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€702.76
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-29 13:01 CET+0100

 

[merco]

37 minutes ago, AlienDin said:

This next thing is important, after this upgrade I wont be able to upgrade for probably about 3-5 years. So I cant get a thing now and get another one in about a year.

And why would that be, if you don't mind me asking? Remember in 2 years you are 18, which means you can do whatever you want  

 

I would maybe go with an AOC 24G2U (about 180€ in germany) and get a 2060 super (about 400€, 350€ if you have patience) and sell your 1070 (Not sure but I think you might get 150-180€ for it) 

 

Oh yeah, since you plan for the future anyways, maybe wait for the new nvidia 30 series cards to come out, so you can save some money on your new GPU. 

[AlienDin]

1 hour ago, merco said:

And why would that be, if you don't mind me asking? Remember in 2 years you are 18, which means you can do whatever you want  

 

I would maybe go with an AOC 24G2U (about 180€ in germany) and get a 2060 super (about 400€, 350€ if you have patience) and sell your 1070 (Not sure but I think you might get 150-180€ for it) 

 

Oh yeah, since you plan for the future anyways, maybe wait for the new nvidia 30 series cards to come out, so you can save some money on your new GPU. 

Well, I live in the Netherlands but Asian families dont work that way :(.

I know a friend who has the AOC 24G2U and it is just to small for me, I really dont want to go lower than 27 inches. My desk is pretty big so I sit further away then most people.

[merco]

33 minutes ago, AlienDin said:

Asian families dont work that way

Oh well, of course I don't want you to get disowned or something haha, you do what you think is best.

3-5 years is a long long time though, so you will see what happens in the future. I don't see why you wouldn't be able to get your own money though, since in 5 years you're gonna be 21.

Anyways it's really a tough situation with that kind of money for that timeframe. If you want a really nice monitor you can get the LG 27GL850 for example, but it is more like 500€ and then you have the 1070 which is underpowered for a 1440p 144hz display like that. Now if you buy the graphics card and you're stuck with your old monitor, well then imo you are kinda overspending on your graphics card, a 1080p 60hz display can be handled easily by a normal 2060 or even a 1660 super/ti (200-300€). But if you then also upgrade your monitor with the rest of the money, well the GPU should be better again. And if you really can't upgrade in the next 3-5 years, well a GPU is always the most important part in a gaming PC when looking into the future. 

So yeah that's kind of a dilemma I see in your decision, which is why I would wait for new GPU releases and see how prices are then. You could always consider buying used hardware as well.

[MadAnt250]

4 hours ago, AlienDin said:

I will get a budget about 400 euro's. I can get a few things with that: A i7 9700k, a rtx 2070 or new really nice monitor.

You will need a new motherboard for the i7-9700k, but it will be better with new GPUs 3 years from now since you will keeping your setup for awhile. This is a hard one, I would try to make every thing last, but with the way games are changing a 4 core, 4 thread CPU may struggle in the new demanding games 3-5 years from now.

4 hours ago, AlienDin said:

The cpu was 60 degrees and gpu was 80-83 degrees.

Your GPU may be hitting the temp limit and your performance is decreased to prevent your GPU from getting hotter, making a more aggressive fan curve to keep the GPU a little cooler may help a bit, I would try and keep the GPU temps in the 70's or maybe raising the limit a bit(I believe cooler is better).

5 hours ago, AlienDin said:

Red Dead Redemption 2, mix of medium, high and ultra settings.

I would look at a few guides on how to optimize the games performance and while keeping good graphical detail, I believe ultra settings are not necessary unless you are taking screenshots and in some games there are some settings that do not look much different going form medium to ultra.   

5 hours ago, AlienDin said:

1080p ips monitor, 60hz

You can try to overclock it.