Monitors with Full Array Dimming?

[suits]

I swear I've seen Linus review several different monitors with local array dimming. Are the only ones available to the public the Acer x27 and the Asus equivalent? I can't seem to find any other anywhere. Am I just blind?

 

What I really want is a microLED monitor but they don't seem to be very close to release. Lol

[Enderman]

Local dimming sucks why would you want that?

Either go OLED or just don't bother.

[suits]

23 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Local dimming sucks why would you want that?

Either go OLED or just don't bother.

I've thought about that too. Just worried about burn in...

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, suits said:

I've thought about that too. Just worried about burn in...

Yeah that's why I am skipping oled and waiting for microLED, where the individual pixels are LEDs with no burn in.

Get a good IPS or VA monitor instead then, and if it has local dimming just turn it off.

[Doobeedoo]

Yeah FALD is really a bridgegap to MicroLED though. For proper HDR too. It's still better than regular LCD but worse than OLED yet OLED has issues and no monitors with it really. 

So yeah I'd just get a solid IPS now and skip MiniLED monitors which are also very expensive and eventually get amazing MicroLED in the future. 

[SolarNova]

16 hours ago, suits said:

I swear I've seen Linus review several different monitors with local array dimming. Are the only ones available to the public the Acer x27 and the Asus equivalent? I can't seem to find any other anywhere. Am I just blind?

 

What I really want is a microLED monitor but they don't seem to be very close to release. Lol

'Basic' FALD in current monitors tends to have issue, notably haloing and slow response.

 

MicroLED isnt anywhere near consumer use in monitors, it isnt even miniaturized enough for consumer TV sizes that make sense.

 

OLED is ur best bet, and the only option u have will be released this year sometime, likely around April.

The LG CX 48" OLED TV. 

Geared towards gamers it has 120hz capability, 4k native res, VRR, and even BFI which will be great. Being OLED it will look brilliant, absolutely trouncing monitors in quality, responsiveness, and will even compete with gaming monitors on 'input latency' as its been hinted that its going to be around 5ms, though LG wont be advertising the figure we will find out from reviews that test it, like rtings, rather quickly after launch.

 

if u can accommodate a 48" 16:9 display , its the way to go ...ill be finally replacing my 42" Plasma i use for my PC with it as soon as its released.

 

The 2 drawbacks with this 48" OLED however are :

 

1) The so called 'burn-in' ... its not as big a deal as some people make out , but u will have to work around it somewhat and change ur behavior when using the display.

 

You cant just walk away and leave it on without some kind of a screensaver.

You cant play high contrast UI games for 8 hour streaming sessions day in and day out.

Auto hide taskbar should be enabled.

Create a set of 20 or more desktop background and have them alternate every few minutes,

When u use a browser ..dont open it up in full screen all the time, u should open it up in windowed and just move it around in different areas each time.

 

This sounds like a lot but iv been doing this for years with my Plasma, it becomes second nature and you really dont notice it.

 

2) Your going to need a 2020 GPU with HDMI 2.1 on it to use 120hz 4k. Without it ull be limited to 60hz 4k via HDMI 2.0 (but will still be able to use 1080p and 1440p 120hz). This to is something ill be doing as soon as they are available even though iv only had my 1080ti for a year :P

[VIVO-US]

19 hours ago, Enderman said:

Local dimming sucks why would you want that?

Either go OLED or just don't bother.

This depends on the method of dimming.

 

Edge light dimming is the worst since it can only handle large chunks of the screen, but can't be accurately aligned to anything except very large bars (like around a movie).

 

Full array dimming can be much more accurate since the LEDs behind each area can be adjusted individually.  Early versions of this only adjusted large sections and looked as bad as edge dimming, but the newer, much more sophisticated versions have been known to look almost as good as OLED in many cases.  It's still not a mach for OLED of course, but it does a very good job.

 

The new local dimming method by Hisense has a lot of potential since it uses a second LCD behind the main display LCD to control light by pixel size, potentially giving greater accuracy than well controlled local LED dimming.  It'll be interesting to see how this does.

[SolarNova]

6 minutes ago, VIVO-US said:

~SNIP~

 

The new local dimming method by Hisense has a lot of potential since it uses a second LCD behind the main display LCD to control light by pixel size, potentially giving greater accuracy than well controlled local LED dimming.  It'll be interesting to see how this does.

ULED XD / Dual Layer LCD

 

Indeed the 1080p B/W 'lighting' panel effectively gives it 2million zones.

 

Will be interesting to see how it performs response wise. However i doubt we'll see that in monitors, as far as im aware its Unique to Hisense, its their tech, and i dont recall seeing Hisense make any monitors. Also, i may be wrong, but considering the processing required to control it all i suspect it wont be to graceful for gaming.

[Enderman]

59 minutes ago, VIVO-US said:

This depends on the method of dimming.

 

Edge light dimming is the worst since it can only handle large chunks of the screen, but can't be accurately aligned to anything except very large bars (like around a movie).

 

Full array dimming can be much more accurate since the LEDs behind each area can be adjusted individually.  Early versions of this only adjusted large sections and looked as bad as edge dimming, but the newer, much more sophisticated versions have been known to look almost as good as OLED in many cases.  It's still not a mach for OLED of course, but it does a very good job.

 

The new local dimming method by Hisense has a lot of potential since it uses a second LCD behind the main display LCD to control light by pixel size, potentially giving greater accuracy than well controlled local LED dimming.  It'll be interesting to see how this does.

Full array dimming is still crap.

It causes non-uniform black areas and halos around bright objects on dark backgrounds.

When the bright objects move it's even worse, as it causes a trailing light.

Unless you have the same amount of dimming zones as pixels (which is basically having true microLED) then it will never be as good as oled.

I would much rather have 0 local dimming than slightly less dark blacks, especially for any kind of video or photo editing.