upgrade Upgrade Plan: Gaming and Productivity

[XandersWithS]

First thing what i must do is, 

RAM Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 3200MHz 8x2

(Ryzen needs a fast ram)

For a processor, can you help me?

Go for intel i5 9600K, i7 9700k (This is only my second plan)

or Ryzen 5 3600, 7 3700X (This is my plan)

 

Ryzen best at multitasking (Multicore and thread score is good)

But intel good at single core itself.

 

Im only do gaming most than productivity.

 

Both plan must change a motherboard. So i think for amd i use B450 or X470 (If not overpriced) 

For intel, i dont know which one is best for this upgrade plan.

 

First thing why i ask this, my current had a little cpu impact to graphic card itself. 

Maybe from the game doesnt support many core or thread. I don't understand too.

 

*Already asked this problem about bottleneck or what else) but i still want to know what best can i do rn.

*Cant do overclock bcause heat is kinda high. 70-80c non oc

 

 

[boggy77]

your current build is well balanced. what is the reason you want to upgrade? are you getting stuttering in games? not enough fps? if yes, in which games and what fps are you currently having and what do you want to achieve?

[Chrizl1990]

Don't really see any point in upgrading unless you are getting low fps or experiencing performance issues.

[XandersWithS]

7 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

your current build is well balanced. what is the reason you want to upgrade? are you getting stuttering in games? not enough fps? if yes, in which games and what fps are you currently having and what do you want to achieve?

I think we met again, csgo and r6s and other games. 

CSGO - Random spikes like it can go to 180 fps for no reason. Its normal if someone throw smoke or other effect. 

R6s - Big fps jump but no stutter. Only random fps jump for no reason. 

I see from youtube there is no 'problem' like that. Stable gameplay, already close any frametime counter to enjoy the game. But it feels like chuggy. 

And some games there is no improvement than my 1060. I think ram speed affect ryzen but idk.. 

[XandersWithS]

Just now, Chrizl1990 said:

Don't really see any point in upgrading unless you are getting low fps or experiencing performance issues.

Some random spike. like big fps jump and at monitor it can seen this fps dropped. 

[Chrizl1990]

1 minute ago, XandersWithS said:

Some random spike. like big fps jump and at monitor it can seen this fps dropped. 

I would recommend downloading MSI afterburner, then trying playing a game. You can then take a screenshot when you get the fps dip.

[boggy77]

1 minute ago, XandersWithS said:

I think we met again, csgo and r6s and other games. 

CSGO - Random spikes like it can go to 180 fps for no reason. Its normal if someone throw smoke or other effect. 

R6s - Big fps jump but no stutter. Only random fps jump for no reason. 

I see from youtube there is no 'problem' like that. Stable gameplay, already close any frametime counter to enjoy the game. But it feels like chuggy. 

And some games there is no improvement than my 1060. I think ram speed affect ryzen but idk.. 

i would try to troubleshoot these problems, as they are not "normal" and you might find them again even if you upgrade cpu/gpu.

make sure you have ram in the right slots (2 and 4), xmp profile enabled.

make sure you have gpu drivers and chipset drivers up to date. try to update bios as well. check that your case is well ventialated. monitor temperatures and cpu and gpu utilisations during gaming.

i'd do all this first, before thinking of upgrading any component and you might manage to solve your problems for free.

[XandersWithS]

4 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

i would try to troubleshoot these problems, as they are not "normal" and you might find them again even if you upgrade cpu/gpu.

make sure you have ram in the right slots (2 and 4), xmp profile enabled.

make sure you have gpu drivers and chipset drivers up to date. try to update bios as well. check that your case is well ventialated. monitor temperatures and cpu and gpu utilisations during gaming.

i'd do all this first, before thinking of upgrading any component and you might manage to solve your problems for free.

Wait i must download amd chipset driver or no from motherboard support? 

[XandersWithS]

5 minutes ago, Chrizl1990 said:

I would recommend downloading MSI afterburner, then trying playing a game. You can then take a screenshot when you get the fps dip.

Okay i will try. Thanks. Btw i cant do windows printscreen at ingame while uskng afterburner. Does ingame screenshot can capture it too? 

[boggy77]

2 minutes ago, XandersWithS said:

Wait i must download amd chipset driver or no from motherboard support? 

chipset driver from amd, bios from motherboard support

[XandersWithS]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

chipset driver from amd, bios from motherboard support

[boggy77]

1 minute ago, XandersWithS said:

yes get it

[XandersWithS]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

yes get it

"Include amd smbus driver...." Thats okay?

[boggy77]

Just now, XandersWithS said:

"Include amd smbus driver...." Thats okay?

yes

[XandersWithS]

Just now, boggy77 said:

yes

Oh i will try to download that

[XandersWithS]

5 minutes ago, XandersWithS said:

Oh i will try to download that

Just go and setup right? dont need to open that folder?

[XandersWithS]

6 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

yes

Setup then go?

[boey]

1 minute ago, XandersWithS said:

Setup then go?

double click setup.exe

[XandersWithS]

Just now, _d0nut said:

double click setup.exe

I see but thats radeon software. is it okay (thats a cpu driver right? not a graphic )?

[XandersWithS]

49 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

i would try to troubleshoot these problems, as they are not "normal" and you might find them again even if you upgrade cpu/gpu.

make sure you have ram in the right slots (2 and 4), xmp profile enabled.

make sure you have gpu drivers and chipset drivers up to date. try to update bios as well. check that your case is well ventialated. monitor temperatures and cpu and gpu utilisations during gaming.

i'd do all this first, before thinking of upgrading any component and you might manage to solve your problems for free.

Thats strange. Now my game is good. But csgo is bad. And other games. 

[boggy77]

9 minutes ago, XandersWithS said:

Thats strange. Now my game is good. But csgo is bad. And other games. 

try all the other things I suggested as well

[XandersWithS]

1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

i would try to troubleshoot these problems, as they are not "normal" and you might find them again even if you upgrade cpu/gpu.

make sure you have ram in the right slots (2 and 4), xmp profile enabled.

make sure you have gpu drivers and chipset drivers up to date. try to update bios as well. check that your case is well ventialated. monitor temperatures and cpu and gpu utilisations during gaming.

i'd do all this first, before thinking of upgrading any component and you might manage to solve your problems for free.

But that depends at the game? Csgo using dx9. But last time i check it only 30/30 cpu gpu usage

[XandersWithS]

30 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

try all the other things I suggested as well

Wait gonna give you this latest game info.

FPS hit around 200 when one of them reachs 80%

normally. 110-130 but thats not what i expected from 2060

Normally is 50% cpu usage and 50% gpu it make like 130 around like that. 

 

But sometimes cpu hit 70% or 70/70 cpu gpu usage that make a fps higher.

I dont know why only 50% utilization

[boggy77]

2 minutes ago, XandersWithS said:

Wait gonna give you this latest game info.

FPS hit around 200 when one of them reachs 80%

normally. 110-130 but thats not what i expected from 2060

Normally is 50% cpu usage and 50% gpu it make like 130 around like that. 

 

But sometimes cpu hit 70% or 70/70 cpu gpu usage that make a fps higher.

I dont know why only 50% utilization

in cs:go, with 2600 and 2060, you should hit between 250 and 300 fps. seeing the utilisations being low, you definitely don't need o upgrade your cpu. you just need to troubleshoot the problem, take the steps I recommended, see what power plan you're on (should be windows balanced or ryzen balanced)

[XandersWithS]

Just now, boggy77 said:

in cs:go, with 2600 and 2060, you should hit between 250 and 300 fps. seeing the utilisations being low, you definitely don't need o upgrade your cpu. you just need to troubleshoot the problem, take the steps I recommended, see what power plan you're on (should be windows balanced or ryzen balanced)

Hmm but fps at csgo hit 190-300 basically around 220fps. It better with my gtx 1060 3gb.Kinda regret it