upgrade PC Upgrade from 2013 to 2020

[Manivela]

Hi, I'm thinking of building a new system using the gtx980 in my current one and using my old system as a home server (plex ,sonarr, radarr, game dedicated servers...). I want suggestions on the Upgraded build, currently It costs me around 900$ local price (5.377 Turkish Lira) which is also my max budget. I wanna know If I can go cheaper without sacrificing much performance or If there are better options for this price point. I want the final build to be easy to clean and work with, look nice, be silent(at least not louder than the 980 I already have ) and perform well.

 

I plan on doing 1080p gaming and 1080p60fps streaming with this machine.

I'll also be working as a web developer on the same machine If this makes any difference.

 

This is what I have currently:

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4 GB Twin Frozr Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Custom: Dark evo 2 (Purchased)
Custom: Dark force series 500W (Purchased)
Total: $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 13:09 EST-0500

 

 

This my Upgraded build:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Best Buy) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 4 GB Twin Frozr Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa J25 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $749.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 13:10 EST-0500

 

And This is what I'll have left for the server:

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For $0.00) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Custom: Dark evo 2 (Purchased)
Custom: Dark force series 500W (Purchased)
Total: $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 13:10 EST-0500

 

CPU:

I choose ryzen 5 3600 over ryzen 5 3600X because I don't really overclock (still have my 2600k at factory clock)

PSU:

I'm pretty sure the powersupply is overkill but I want a Fully Modular one and they all start at 650W, I heard a lot of good things about Corsair RM series so thats why I went with this one.

RAM:

For ram there is also this kit available for 50$ cheaper but I don't know how much of a difference ram speed makes. Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 

CASE:

For Case I pretty much chose the cheapest one available from a brand I knew. There are also cases available from brands like GAMEBOOSTER or POWERBOOST for much cheaper but I didn't wanna risk it.

GPU:

I'm sticking to the 980 for the time being but I'm thinking of upgrading to a 2070super later.

 

Suggestions on any part is appreciated, It'd be better to have multiple options for parts if possible because not everything is available in Turkey unfortunately I'll check for availability and come back to you as soon as possible.

Thanks in advance!

Yunus.

[PRTI]

I would first look at the prices of those components in your country since there may be a difference in price and maybe you could find better pricing for something that has the same performance so i wouldn't build a pc over pcpartpicker, now as it says in the ppp link you may need another cpu to update the bios which can be time consuming and irritating, as for the ram as far as i know ryzen benefits from faster ram speeds but i don't know if 3200 vs 3600 is a big enough difference to justify a $50 price gap, but as i said look for prices of pc parts in your local stores not ppp since they may differ.

[PRTI]

Now that i look at it for the ram in your ppp link your paying a bonus for RGB, so i don't know if RGB is a must need or you just didn't know, either way if your looking to save some money while getting the same performance don't buy RGB ram and better get faster ram.

[Manivela]

1 minute ago, PRTI said:

I would first look at the prices of those components in your country since there may be a difference in price and maybe you could find better pricing for something that has the same performance so i wouldn't build a pc over pcpartpicker, now as it says in the ppp link you may need another cpu to update the bios which can be time consuming and irritating, as for the ram as far as i know ryzen benefits from faster ram speeds but i don't know if 3200 vs 3600 is a big enough difference to justify a $50 price gap, but as i said look for prices of pc parts in your local stores not ppp since they may differ.

Yea I haven't really used the prices listed on ppp but they are usually like 10-20$ cheaper than my local prices. The total I gave 900$ is from using local prices converted to dollars. I don't really want to mess around with bios would going for a better MB solve this issue?

[AndrewB121]

If you don't plan on overclocking, and depending on budget, the 3600X might actually be a better choice. It's pre-overclocked so you won't have to worry about that,and it comes with a better cooler. 

 

Also do you really need 32GB of RAM for gaming?

 

3 minutes ago, PRTI said:

I would first look at the prices of those components in your country since there may be a difference in price and maybe you could find better pricing for something that has the same performance so i wouldn't build a pc over pcpartpicker, now as it says in the ppp link you may need another cpu to update the bios which can be time consuming and irritating, as for the ram as far as i know ryzen benefits from faster ram speeds but i don't know if 3200 vs 3600 is a big enough difference to justify a $50 price gap, but as i said look for prices of pc parts in your local stores not ppp since they may differ.

Shouldn't have any problems with the bios, the MSI MAX motherboards should already be updated. 3200MHz is fine, especially if it's lower latency than comparable 3600MHz RAM.

 

 

[PRTI]

2 minutes ago, Manivela said:

Yea I haven't really used the prices listed on ppp but they are usually like 10-20$ cheaper than my local prices. The total I gave 900$ is from using local prices converted to dollars. I don't really want to mess around with bios would going for a better MB solve this issue?

Maybe, @AndrewB121 just said that the MSI boards should already have been updated, however i don't about that 100%, i would also look if there is any sale going on for parts in your local stores, maybe you could find something like ram or an ssd for cheaper.

[Manivela]

1 minute ago, AndrewB121 said:

If you don't plan on overclocking, and depending on budget, the 3600X might actually be a better choice. It's pre-overclocked so you won't have to worry about that,and it comes with a better cooler. 

 

Also do you really need 32GB of RAM for gaming?

 

Shouldn't have any problems with the bios, the MSI MAX motherboards should already be updated. 3200MHz is fine, especially if it's lower latency than comparable 3600MHz RAM.

 

 

I currently have 24gb ram and use around 16 of it while gaming/streaming with many background apps so I didn't really wanna go down to 16gb. I could go for 3600x if I downgrade the ram to 3200 tho.

[Manivela]

2 minutes ago, PRTI said:

Maybe, @AndrewB121 just said that the MSI boards should already have been updated, however i don't about that 100%, i would also look if there is any sale going on for parts in your local stores, maybe you could find something like ram or an ssd for cheaper.

I am waiting for sales on these parts I plan on buying them one by one. I just wanna make sure I have a good baseline of parts to look for sales. I don't really have a MB preference so If there are more expensive MBs without this Issue I could go for those.

[AndrewB121]

1 minute ago, Manivela said:

I currently have 24gb ram and use around 16 of it while gaming/streaming with many background apps so I didn't really wanna go down to 16gb. I could go for 3600x if I downgrade the ram to 3200 tho.

Fair enough then. 

 

I think a 3600X is probably worth it over 3600MHz RAM, but only if it's no more than $30 more, and you're sure you won't be overclocking. 

 

Another option would be to get the r5 3600, 3200mhz RAM and then spend that extra on a decent cooler, and then you might be able to do a bit of overclocking. 

[Manivela]

7 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

Fair enough then. 

 

I think a 3600X is probably worth it over 3600MHz RAM, but only if it's no more than $30 more, and you're sure you won't be overclocking. 

 

Another option would be to get the r5 3600, 3200mhz RAM and then spend that extra on a decent cooler, and then you might be able to do a bit of overclocking. 

I'm definitely not overclocking and 3600x is $50 more than 3600 so I can go with 3200mhz memory and ryzen 5 3600x for the same price of 3600mhz memory and ryzen 5 3600

[boggy77]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard	MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$80.88 @ SuperBiiz
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$129.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$114.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	MSI GeForce GTX 980 4 GB Twin Frozr Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	Thermaltake Versa J25 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$700.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 14:21 EST-0500

 

[PRTI]

5 minutes ago, Manivela said:

I am waiting for sales on these parts I plan on buying them one by one. I just wanna make sure I have a good baseline of parts to look for sales. I don't really have a MB preference so If there are more expensive MBs without this Issue I could go for those.

If you want to not worry about that issue at all you will need to go for a X370, X470 or X570 chipset board, which are more expensive than B450 boards, some of the cheapest X470 and X570 boards are these

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RJxbt6/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-phantom-gaming-4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6hF48d/asus-prime-x470-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x470-pro

 

Although i would personally go for the X570 chipset, there are about 3-5 more boards around that price point with different look, don't know if that fits your budget but its a thing to consider.

[AndrewB121]

4 minutes ago, Manivela said:

I'm definitely not overclocking and 3600x is $50 more than 3600 so I can go with 3200mhz memory and ryzen 5 3600x for the same price of 3600mhz memory and ryzen 5 3600

Hmm in that case I guess just stick to the 3600 and 3600. 

[Manivela]

4 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard	MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$80.88 @ SuperBiiz
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$129.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$114.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	MSI GeForce GTX 980 4 GB Twin Frozr Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	Thermaltake Versa J25 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$700.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 14:21 EST-0500

 

RM650 isn't available for me so I have to go 750 or something else

[AndrewB121]

4 minutes ago, PRTI said:

If you want to not worry about that issue at all you will need to go for a X370, X470 or X570 chipset board, which are more expensive than B450 boards, some of the cheapest X470 and X570 boards are these

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RJxbt6/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-phantom-gaming-4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6hF48d/asus-prime-x470-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x470-pro

 

Although i would personally go for the X570 chipset, there are about 3-5 more boards around that price point with different look, don't know if that fits your budget but its a thing to consider.

I think for a r5 3600 a decent b450 motherboard is better value than a budget x570 board.

[Manivela]

12 minutes ago, PRTI said:

If you want to not worry about that issue at all you will need to go for a X370, X470 or X570 chipset board, which are more expensive than B450 boards, some of the cheapest X470 and X570 boards are these

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RJxbt6/asrock-x570-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-phantom-gaming-4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6hF48d/asus-prime-x470-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x470-pro

 

Although i would personally go for the X570 chipset, there are about 3-5 more boards around that price point with different look, don't know if that fits your budget but its a thing to consider.

I was considering x570 chipset for futureproofing and I'm willing to pay extra for a good MB but I'm not sure if x570 is worth it. asus-prime-x470 is also available for very cheap for me

[PRTI]

7 minutes ago, AndrewB121 said:

I think for a r5 3600 a decent b450 motherboard is better value than a budget x570 board.

Depends, id rather spend the extra for a better chipset mb, + as of now there is no guarantee that the MSI boards are updated + he said that he can get the asus one for cheap so i don't see why not.

 

9 minutes ago, Manivela said:

I was definitely considering x570 chipset for futureproofing and I'm willing to pay extra for a good MB asus-prime-x470 is also available for very cheap for me

IMO if your building a pc for gaming/streaming i wouldn't cut corners anywhere, that little extra may be worth it in the long run.

[AndrewB121]

2 minutes ago, PRTI said:

Depends, id rather spend the extra for a better chipset mb, + as of now there is no guarantee that the MSI boards are updated + he said that he can get the asus one for cheap so i don't see why not.

Ah right if he can get it for cheap then yes I agree it's a good investment. 

[Manivela]

 

1 hour ago, AndrewB121 said:

Ah right if he can get it for cheap then yes I agree it's a good investment. 

 

1 hour ago, PRTI said:

Depends, id rather spend the extra for a better chipset mb, + as of now there is no guarantee that the MSI boards are updated + he said that he can get the asus one for cheap so i don't see why not.

 

IMO if your building a pc for gaming/streaming i wouldn't cut corners anywhere, that little extra may be worth it in the long run.

So turns out the cheap asus prime was also b450 and the asus prime x470 is almost the same price as x570 boards, It's not particularly cheap but what do you think about Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite? 

There is also this one available ASUS TUF X470-PLUS GAMING 3466MHz(OC) DDR4 Soket AM4 RGB M.2 DVI HDMI ATX

[Manivela]

I can also get something like this prebuilt for 9.700tl ($1,624) should I just go for this instead of trying to get a mediocre system for now?

- AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8GHz 32MB Önbellek 6 Çekirdek AM4 7nm İşlemci
- GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE 4000MHz(OC) DDR4 Soket AM4 RGB HDMI PCIe 4.0 ATX Anakart
- 4 Adet x GSKILL 8GB Ripjaws V Siyah 3200MHz CL16 DDR4 Single Kit Ram
- ASUS DUAL GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER EVO OC 8GB GDDR6 256 Bit Ekran Kartı
- THERMALTAKE Versa J23 RGB 650W Tempered Glass USB 3.0 Mid Tower Kasa

 

The PSU is included with the case and Ram is 4x8 single kits instead of 1 2x16gb dual kit.

I know I'm bending the budget a lot here but I'm really not sure what to do so sorry 

[Manivela]

2 x CORSAIR 16GB Vengeance LPX Siyah 3000MHz CL16 DDR4 Single Kit Ram

1 x GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE 4000MHz(OC) DDR4 Soket AM4 RGB HDMI PCIe 4.0 ATX Anakart

1 x POWER BOOST VK-G2052S RGB 650W 80+ Tempered Glass USB 3.0 Mid Tower Kasa

1 x AMD Ryzen 7 3800X MPK 3.9GHz 32MB Önbellek 8 Çekirdek AM4 7nm İşlemci

This is also prebuilt without the gpu for 5.781tl ($969)

I really think this is a great deal I can add my 980 to this

@PRTI @AndrewB121?

[Guest]

You want at least 3600mhz memory for your Ryzen build.

 

[Manivela]

1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

You want at least 3600mhz memory for your Ryzen build.

 

Any Ryzen or specifically 3800x or 3600x ? I can get these with 8gb memory and buy 3600mhz seperately to replace.

[Guest]

Yep any Ryzen cpu. 

You want to buy memory with straight timing sets IE: 16-16-16--x-x 1.35v - I recommend G.Skill higher tier kits ( a little more expensive, but worth it)

[Manivela]

So I decided to ditch the prebuilt systems and buy parts seperately (since there wasnt that big of a price difference) and I'm trying to pick a PSU I found some alternatives to the RM750x which one would you go with?

  

these are from this lists A tier except seasonic focus plus which is the only 650W full modular one thats available to me. I feel like it might be worth paying the premium to go for corsair tho. 200tl =~ $33

 

This is the rest of the system:

still gotta pick a case