Jedi Fallen order performance

[Carz728]

I have a vega 56 and an i5 8400. I just got jedi fallen order and it has massive fps drops in certain areas. Is anyone else having this problem?

[Zando_]

So far I've only played it on my 5820K (6c/12t at 4.2Ghz, similar IPC to an R5 2600) rig with a 1660 Ti. So similar-ish specs, I haven't had any massive fps drops. Do you have a low amount of RAM or something? Or a bunch of stuff running in the background?

[Carz728]

9 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

So far I've only played it on my 5820K (6c/12t at 4.2Ghz, similar IPC to an R5 2600) rig with a 1660 Ti. So similar-ish specs, I haven't had any massive fps drops. Do you have a low amount of RAM or something? Or a bunch of stuff running in the background?

No, it's not really massive it just drops from like 75 to 49 when sliding down a slide or entering an area close to an enemy

[Carz728]

Just now, Carz728 said:

No, it's not really massive it just drops from like 75 to 49 when sliding down a slide or entering an area close to an enemy

I have 16gb 2100mhz

[Carz728]

3 hours ago, c00face said:

amd products is garbo.

What do you mean?

[viceice]

On 12/28/2019 at 12:55 AM, Zando Bob said:

So far I've only played it on my 5820K (6c/12t at 4.2Ghz, similar IPC to an R5 2600) rig with a 1660 Ti. So similar-ish specs, I haven't had any massive fps drops. Do you have a low amount of RAM or something? Or a bunch of stuff running in the background?

its not similar. you have 12 threads. he/she has 6 threads. big difference

 

this game is an another console port that wants at least 8 threads. even a antique fx 8350 runs it with better frametimes than an i5 8400

 

sorry but this cpu is big bust for gaming endustry. even new i5s will feature HT which will be 6/12 cpus.

 

i think its the end of the line for hexa core CPUs

 

i gave up playing fallen order and detroit become human due to stutters. i managed to play ac odyssey, and i regarded it as an anomaly but this is going out of hand...

 

 

[Zando_]

1 hour ago, viceice said:

its not similar. you have 12 threads. he/she has 6 threads. big difference

 

this game is an another console port that wants at least 8 threads. even a antique fx 8350 runs it with better frametimes than an i5 8400

 

sorry but this cpu is big bust for gaming endustry. even new i5s will feature HT which will be 6/12 cpus.

 

i think its the end of the line for hexa core CPUs

 

i gave up playing fallen order and detroit become human due to stutters. i managed to play ac odyssey, and i regarded it as an anomaly but this is going out of hand...

Highly, highly doubt the FX is doing any better than an i5 8400. I ran mine with my RVII, noticed virtually no difference between that and my OCed 5820K. And I was running a higher OC at the time. To be fair I didn't run Fallen Order on that config, mostly Destiny 2 and IIRC some Tomb Raider and such. So it could be this specific title that doesn't like pure hexacores.  

[viceice]

38 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Highly, highly doubt the FX is doing any better than an i5 8400. I ran mine with my RVII, noticed virtually no difference between that and my OCed 5820K. And I was running a higher OC at the time. To be fair I didn't run Fallen Order on that config, mostly Destiny 2 and IIRC some Tomb Raider and such. So it could be this specific title that doesn't like pure hexacores.  

 

 

 

stable fps. barely any hiccups. no apparent freezing.

 

 

constant stuttering. not so stable fps. many hiccups. APPARENT freezing in some scenes.

 

and yes, game doesn't like pure hexa cores. that's the thing i'm dreading. game developers may not care about 6 threads from this point on. don't know. its not a good sign for this cpu in my view. i own this cpu too and im broke and no means to replace it and here I am, getting worse stutters than a antique fx 8350. its only natural that im angry. and theres no guarantee this trend will not continue... and it probably will

 

 

[HD1 star wars]

On 12/29/2019 at 4:49 PM, viceice said:

 

 

 

stable fps. barely any hiccups. no apparent freezing.

 

 

constant stuttering. not so stable fps. many hiccups. APPARENT freezing in some scenes.

 

and yes, game doesn't like pure hexa cores. that's the thing i'm dreading. game developers may not care about 6 threads from this point on. don't know. its not a good sign for this cpu in my view. i own this cpu too and im broke and no means to replace it and here I am, getting worse stutters than a antique fx 8350. its only natural that im angry. and theres no guarantee this trend will not continue... and it probably will

 

 

sorry for replaying 1 year later lol, but that's very interesting I never knew that game developers were actually heavily optimization their games for 8 threaded cpus like the fx 8350 rather that 6 cores 6 thread. I guess being in the consoles really does help the performance of that old cpu. I would be curious to see which one would win (7700k vs 8600k)  if tested, but with your data probalby the 7700k. 

[AldiPrayogi]

I played it on my Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660 Ti and it does suffer from stuttering when exploring new areas. I suppose the fact that I installed it on my HDD has something to do with it. 

[viceice]

On 7/29/2020 at 8:51 PM, HD1 star wars said:

sorry for replaying 1 year later lol, but that's very interesting I never knew that game developers were actually heavily optimization their games for 8 threaded cpus like the fx 8350 rather that 6 cores 6 thread. I guess being in the consoles really does help the performance of that old cpu. I would be curious to see which one would win (7700k vs 8600k)  if tested, but with your data probalby the 7700k. 

well it turned out to be very bad optimization, they fixed it 5 months later (a bit late). now even 4 core/4 thread cpus run the game fine (occasional stutters still happens)

 

i simply had enough of the i5 8400 and swapped it with a 2700x (this cost me 30 dollars, which is crazy). frankly, by pure average fps they are practically same, but the stutters i experienced in some games are simply gone. i'll admit, i'm not the type to backdown on background applications, i like to keep discord, spotify and browser open and ready to be use anytime i want to, additionally some other stuff such as dualshock4 emulator (yeah i like to use my ds4 in windows environment because that's my go to gamepad. sadly even that emulation program uses cpu resources), lightshot (quick screenshot taker), and some more. i can accept that so much program is asking too much from a 6 core processor. but i'll honest, when i first bought this cpu back in 2017, when it was released new, games didn't even properly utilized 6 cores. i was like, "yeah games will use like, 3-4 cores, and 2-3 cores will be free to use for background services). i was wrong though, lots of games brutalized 6 core chips in the past 2 years. of course, using a gtx 1080 at 1080p didn't help with this cpu either. a gpu like gtx 1060 or rx 580 would probably saw lesser cpu usage in general, but gtx 1080 can still push alot of frames and easily fills the i5 8400

 

with 2700x though, all is well. for 30 dollars, i practically added +2 cores and +10 threads to my system, which is great for me, and i never experience slowdowns because of my background programs

 

performance wise, only game where 2700x outperforms the i5 8400 is ac odyssey (in specific regions, i might add, the benchmark tables you will see on the internet doesn't tell the story). there's particular regions in ac:o (athens and spart in particular), where i5 8400 dropped to 45-50 fps and saw heavy %100 usage. 2700x managed to stay above 60 fps in those regions to my surprise, and it turned out it even beats the coveted ryzen 3600 in that region (i specifically emphasize on the region, otherwise people throw benchmarks at me showing 3600 is better than 2700x in that game). 

 

i'm really glad amd made so many viable cpus. 

 

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btw, this still doesn't change the fact, for 5 months, it run like shit on 6/6 chips. for some weird reason, the pc release of this game wasn't anticipated much on technology channels (no idea why). so it stayed under the radar for a long time. if it had the exposure, it would've gotten fixed earlier probably.

 

brutal honesty, this was the last game i played with my i5. the video below is my own and you can see the horrible freezes i experienced. around that time, my friend with a locked i7 7700 also played the game and although he also got occasional stutters, it was never this bad. mind you, below video was taken under completely free of background programs to ensure that it plays stably.

 

 

did I finish the game like that? well, i just put the 30 fps lock and continued on. found some special nvinspector hacks to reduce the stutters actually. even shared them over forums and some  other people also saw success, some didn't. 

 

 

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and after this incident, i saw how 4/4 chips really struggle with some titles, and they never get fixed. because developers started to "move on". the cheapest r3 and i3 is now 4/8 and even i5s are 6/12.

 

it got me worrying honestly. i wanted to use that chip for lots of years to come and it already started to fail on me. 

 

i can count a number of games such as monster hunter world that will run bad ona 4/4 chip whatever you do. same can very well applied to these 6/6 chips. because even the intel moved on, they made their own i5s 6/12.

 

since these 6/6 chips remain small fish in a big pond (4/8 i7s, 4/8 i3s, 6/12 i5s, 6/12 r5s, all that bluster), they might very well be overlooked when developing games. we'll see how that will turn out but i didn't want to risk it so while it had some value, i sold it and had a relief of my own.

 

i would advise even the 9600k owners to do same. sell it, get a 10400f, 10600kf or whatever you want to. 

 

[Ebony Falcon]

On 12/27/2019 at 10:06 PM, Carz728 said:

No, it's not really massive it just drops from like 75 to 49 when sliding down a slide or entering an area close to an enemy

Probly ur hdd or ssd as it’s loading in new areas of the game on the fly mate 

common with big open world games/ big maps