Budget Editing PC

[Akira Shimazu]

so i start to throttle over my laptop ; i7 3610QM, 16 DDR3. 1TB HDD 5200RPM. GT650M idk if i should SSD or buy pc.

if im gonna buy pc i need maximum 450-500USD around that price. i found AMD build with 2600 but since i use Adobe Premiere and ADobe After Effect should i go with intel?i create animation. i only game once a while so productivity is number one. my monitor is 1080P.

 

Requirement;

at least 4Core. 6 core better.

16gb ram obviously

low profile SSD. i will put HDD later

Gpu? idk if i need one since gaming isnt priority

i have case around 30$ it's good tbh.

[Bombastinator]

prices can change from nation to nation.  USD would mean ordering from the US. If you’re located in a different country there are a lot of nation options at www.pcpartpicker.com that might be useful.  Editing video can be helped a lot by the right GPU.

[Akira Shimazu]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

prices can change from nation to nation.  USD would mean ordering from the US. If you’re located in a different country there are a lot of nation options at www.pcpartpicker.com that might be useful.

i already look at currency IDR to USD. the price is similar tho.

[DailyProcrastinator]

Look for used 4 or 6 core i7's, better bang for the buck at your price range, something like an i7-6700k.

[Bombastinator]

What ports does your monitor have in back?

[Oalei]

get a used ryzen 5 2600 and GTX 1660 1070 for cheap if you can

Edited December 16, 2019 by Oalei

[Akira Shimazu]

2 hours ago, Oalei said:

get a used ryzen 5 2600 and GTX 1660 1070 for cheap if you can

 

2 hours ago, JM21 said:

Look for used 4 or 6 core i7's, better bang for the buck at your price range, something like an i7-6700k.

 Used isnt good option here. I want new tho.

 

2 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

What ports does your monitor have in back?

Hdmi

[Bombastinator]

17 minutes ago, Wolfycapt said:

 

 Used isnt good option here. I want new tho.

 

Hdmi

So no problem then.  If it was say vga only or vga/dvi only there would be issues.  Hdmi is fine though.
Idr googles as indonesian rupeh.  Yeah I can’t do much with that

 I’ll see what I can build you in USD with new parts...

[Oalei]

get a gtx 1070 its literally 2M-2.7M, ryzen 5 2600 is like 1.9M new, B450m Pro-VDH, ripjaws 2x8gb something is 950k? U9 400W, 500gb nvme ssd, venom rx guardian/fury

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, Oalei said:

get a gtx 1070 its literally 2M-2.7M, ryzen 5 2600 is like 1.9M new, B450m Pro-VDH, ripjaws 2x8gb something is 950k? U9 400W, 500gb nvme ssd, venom rx guardian/fury

This person is doing better than me.  I’m trying really hard to dig a 2700 and an nvme drive out of this because while that extra 2/4 for the 2700 doesn’t do much of anything for gaming it will make your work a good bit faster.  nvme is barely more expensive than a sata6 ssd (.08/gb vs .11/gb), and your work is one of the few kinds of things where nvme can really show what it can do.  I was having to go with a 1650 4gb with a PSU that can’t really handle power for a video card to save cash.  A 1070 may work better and possibly be cheaper.  I can’t get it under $600 though.  Gotta have a b450 to get nvme and power that 8core.

 

lets go with broad strokes:

-AMD multicore cpu and  an aftermarket cooler.  You don’t need Uber speed, but lots of threads will make things go fast.  The aftermarket cooler is solely because you live in a tropical country and things get hot.  I’ve seen issues with stock coolers having problems in hot places like Egypt.

-b450 motherboard. Partially to power a larger cpu but also So you can get an nvme drive.  They’re ridiculously quick.  So quick the extra speed doesn’t even help for games because game aren’t fast enough.  Your work would benefit though.

-An nvme m.2 drive large enough to hold the OS and one big project.  Everything else can live on a mechanical drive.

-Nvidia graphics. Not because they’re cheap (they aren’t) but because they have cuda cores and studio drivers. AMD GPUs dont, and you can use both.

-3000mhz ram.  Could go slower but the savings taper off fast.  It seemed like a sweet spot. 2666 would work though.

-as cheap as I can go on literally everything else.

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 hours ago, Wolfycapt said:

i already look at currency IDR to USD. the price is similar tho.

if things were as easy as that, PCPP would never have had to make different pages for different countries. prices and availability differs between countries to the point that any list we send you is useless unless it's from indonesia.

[Oalei]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

This person is doing better than me.

because i live there

[SavageNeo]

Try something like this. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$119.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.89 @ Amazon
Memory	OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$49.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card	$159.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$68.99 @ SuperBiiz
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$558.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-16 04:41 EST-0500

 

 

You could find 1070 used for less than rx 580 8gb price

You could go with 60dollar mobo, but not good idea.

 

[Akira Shimazu]

2 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

Try something like this. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$119.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.89 @ Amazon
Memory	OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$49.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card	$159.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$68.99 @ SuperBiiz
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$558.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-16 04:41 EST-0500

 

 

You could find 1070 used for less than rx 580 8gb price

You could go with 60dollar mobo, but not good idea.

 

iwhat about intel? i mean i use Adobe

[Oalei]

16 hours ago, Wolfycapt said:

iwhat about intel? i mean i use Adobe

well why dont you compare i5 9400f with 5 2600? if you think intel is better just swap it. because i dont actually know which is better

[Queen Chrysalis]

Try an SSD first.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4CzFf7/mushkin-enhanced-raw-960-gb-25-solid-state-drive-mknssdrw960gb

 

$78 for a TB is unbeatable.  Even with a lower end SSD like this one, it will be a night and day improvement over using a HDD for both windows and your editing software.  Premeir is designed to favor intel, so your i7 is what you want to probably stick with.  Look at it this way, you can try this, and if it works, you keep most of your money, and if it doesn't, at least your laptop will be faster for mobile editing, and you're only out $70.  You could even move the SSD you bought into a new system you would build later. 

[Queen Chrysalis]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TBQ637W?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&pldnSite=1

 

This is slightly higher end SSD for about $15 more. 

[Queen Chrysalis]

Also, don;t buy a new 580 (or 480, same exact GPU die) if you go the desktop route.  Craigslist and eBay are flooded with 580s right now for a significantly lower price and eBa cards are totally fine.  If it arrives and it doesn't work, eBay will get you your money back.  

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-Radeon-RX-480-Windforce-Gaming-8GB-Graphics-Card/193260263536?hash=item2cff359870%3Ag%3AyJ8AAOSwhJtd-Fq1&LH_BIN=1

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-RX-480-8GB-GDRR4-Gaming-X-PCIe-3-0/263986753111?hash=item3d76d62e57%3Ag%3AnooAAOSwD~FbwLXF&LH_BIN=1

[Queen Chrysalis]

And if you go the desktop route, this configuration would be my highest recommendation for a performance per dollar premier build.

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($144.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B365M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($64.98 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Adorama) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($44.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC P12 PWM PST(5-pack) 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans  ($27.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $492.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-17 00:04 EST-0500

 

 

 

These parts with a 480 from ebay.

[GoldenLag]

19 hours ago, Wolfycapt said:

iwhat about intel? i mean i use Adobe

If you are going intel and doing adobe. The iGPU is more or less required. 

 

The biggest advantage dissappears if you go with a CPU without it. 

2 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

performance per dollar premier build.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($144.99 @ B&H) 

But it doesnt have an iGPU. Which would be one of the main reasons to go Intel..........

[Queen Chrysalis]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

If you are going intel and doing adobe. The iGPU is more or less required. 

 

The biggest advantage dissappears if you go with a CPU without it. 

But it doesnt have an iGPU. Which would be one of the main reasons to go Intel..........

Oh shit thats right.  Yeah might as well go with the 9600k at that point.  Microcenter sells it for like $179, and you can bundle it with a MoBo for a $20 discount.  Would be a faster machine anyway.  OP could probably make it work in their budget by going with DIYPC F2 case, and cutting out the 5 pack of fans I suggested, as that case comes with fans and is a little cheaper than the one I originally suggested.

[Akira Shimazu]

4 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

Try an SSD first.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4CzFf7/mushkin-enhanced-raw-960-gb-25-solid-state-drive-mknssdrw960gb

 

$78 for a TB is unbeatable.  Even with a lower end SSD like this one, it will be a night and day improvement over using a HDD for both windows and your editing software.  Premeir is designed to favor intel, so your i7 is what you want to probably stick with.  Look at it this way, you can try this, and if it works, you keep most of your money, and if it doesn't, at least your laptop will be faster for mobile editing, and you're only out $70.  You could even move the SSD you bought into a new system you would build later. 

yeah but dont you think 3610QM is little bit weak? like 4c/8t 3.2ghz

 

2 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

If you are going intel and doing adobe. The iGPU is more or less required. 

 

The biggest advantage dissappears if you go with a CPU without it. 

But it doesnt have an iGPU. Which would be one of the main reasons to go Intel..........

i just saw benchmark between 9400 vs 2600. and its similiar unless i choose 9600K which is 60$ more.

[Queen Chrysalis]

29 minutes ago, Wolfycapt said:

yeah but dont you think 3610QM is little bit weak? like 4c/8t 3.2ghz

All things considered, not really, especially for a mobile i7.  People having been making huge projects with less for years.  The only real difference upgrading will make for premier will be your render times.  Any issues you are having with the software itself running slowly is primarily going to be due to running it off of a hard drive, as well as pulling clips into your timelime from said hard drive.  I would highly recommend trying the SSD swap before plundering your wallet on a desktop.  The laptop is also nice because you can bring your work with you to a filming site, library, or production meeting.

 

 

[GoldenLag]

33 minutes ago, Wolfycapt said:

i just saw benchmark between 9400 vs 2600. and its similiar unless i choose 9600K which is 60$ more.

which benchmarks?

 

rendering or a more comprehensive test?

[Akira Shimazu]

4 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

which benchmarks?

 

rendering or a more comprehensive test?

rendering 4K file. but the detail idk?

 

5 hours ago, Queen Chrysalis said:

All things considered, not really, especially for a mobile i7.  People having been making huge projects with less for years.  The only real difference upgrading will make for premier will be your render times.  Any issues you are having with the software itself running slowly is primarily going to be due to running it off of a hard drive, as well as pulling clips into your timelime from said hard drive.  I would highly recommend trying the SSD swap before plundering your wallet on a desktop.  The laptop is also nice because you can bring your work with you to a filming site, library, or production meeting.

 

 

yeah i forgot that it has 60-70c idle. yes already change thermal paste.  but i can use it for Desktop