h80i or h90

[Shaneration]

title says it all currently the H80i and H90 are the exact same price

i am going to get the 8 core amd 3.5ghz (8320) and im looking to overclock to 4ghz

 

so which would be better for the system im building h80i or h90

 

any adive would be greatly appreciated thanks

 

 

[Swegly]

h80i

[kuzimins]

h80i

[ericlee30]

You need to ask your self, do you need LED lighting for the logo? Do you need Corsair link? or do you want just a 140 rad?

[ForsakenLive]

H80i,  the 140mm surface area of the H90 is worthless, the radiator is too thin, the same happens with the NZXT X40

[airdeano]

title says it all currently the H80i and H90 are the exact same price

i am going to get the 8 core amd 3.5ghz (8320) and im looking to overclock to 4ghz

 

so which would be better for the system im building h80i or h90

 

any adive would be greatly appreciated thanks

 

having to choose from those two options i'd have to give it to the H80i.

but for a 4.0 overclock, simple use of a cooler master 212 air cooler can do the

trick as well for less money. only when moving the voltage past 1.4vCore, then

a liquid cooler could be a choice or a higher-ended air cooler.

 

honestly, the single fan liquid solutions are viable solutions, but leaving so much

gains on the table from the 2x 120 (240) AIO kits. Linus found 24° difference

from the H80i to the H100i and these kits are not that much more in cost. only

factor to not have a 240 is case/hardware limitations, overclocking skills, knowledge.

 

[KamiKatze]

H80i for Corsair link, a better fit and finish, and because the market for 120mm fans that are pressure optimized is much larger than for 140mm fans.

[Shaneration]

H80i,  the 140mm surface area of the H90 is worthless, the radiator is too thin, the same happens with the NZXT X40

i was looking purely at performance and tempratures for longer life span. dont really care about the size of the fans, whichever gets the job done more effienciently

 

thanks everyone for your help i think its a given that i should get the h80i

when it comes to the h100 i have the corsair 200r and with everything i plan to get into that case a h100i would not fit without modding the case and im not prepared to do that. also im pushing the budget a little bit to upgrade form a h60 to h80i so  a h100 or h100i is not an option at this point in time.

 

thanks for all ur helps guys means alot to me

[airdeano]

i was looking purely at performance and tempratures for longer life span. dont really care about the size of the fans, whichever gets the job done more effienciently

 

thanks everyone for your help i think its a given that i should get the h80i

when it comes to the h100 i have the corsair 200r and with everything i plan to get into that case a h100i would not fit without modding the case and im not prepared to do that. also im pushing the budget a little bit to upgrade form a h60 to h80i so  a h100 or h100i is not an option at this point in time.

 

thanks for all ur helps guys means alot to me

 

then with that said, i'd go with the CM212 and not press the case/cooling. save the cash

from the cooler purchase and look for a better case platform if you plan to run bigger

overclocks.

 

the 200R is an entry level case for some reasons..

 

[Godsmack]

having to choose from those two options i'd have to give it to the H80i.

but for a 4.0 overclock, simple use of a cooler master 212 air cooler can do the

trick as well for less money. only when moving the voltage past 1.4vCore, then

a liquid cooler could be a choice or a higher-ended air cooler.

 

honestly, the single fan liquid solutions are viable solutions, but leaving so much

gains on the table from the 2x 120 (240) AIO kits. Linus found 24° difference

from the H80i to the H100i and these kits are not that much more in cost. only

factor to not have a 240 is case/hardware limitations, overclocking skills, knowledge.

 

your chart is fine except comparing a single rad aio unit to dual rads is kinda stacking the odds against the H80i, but you chart says with one fan in pull config, that's even worse for stacking against the H80i.  If you do a push/pull config for the H80i (from what i've seen) you get something like 10C difference give or take.

 

i was looking purely at performance and tempratures for longer life span. dont really care about the size of the fans, whichever gets the job done more effienciently

 

thanks everyone for your help i think its a given that i should get the h80i

when it comes to the h100 i have the corsair 200r and with everything i plan to get into that case a h100i would not fit without modding the case and im not prepared to do that. also im pushing the budget a little bit to upgrade form a h60 to h80i so  a h100 or h100i is not an option at this point in time.

 

thanks for all ur helps guys means alot to me

 

pretty much always take the H100i over the H80i (ofc) when you can, I am using the H80i for the same reason... no room

[airdeano]

your chart is fine except comparing a single rad aio unit to dual rads is kinda stacking the odds against the H80i, but you chart says with one fan in pull config, that's even worse for stacking against the H80i.  If you do a push/pull config for the H80i (from what i've seen) you get something like 10C difference give or take.

 

you will not get anywhere close to 10° decrease in temperatures with one more

fan addition for push/pull on H80/i. on my test bench using a H80i there might

be a 4° drop. so the real difference might be 20° from the H100i to H80i (p/p).

still a large enough difference that high-end air-coolers seem to be closer in

thermal control than any single fan radiator AIO and usually same or less cost.

[Godsmack]

you will not get anywhere close to 10° decrease in temperatures with one more

fan addition for push/pull on H80/i. on my test bench using a H80i there might

be a 4° drop. so the real difference might be 20° from the H100i to H80i (p/p).

still a large enough difference that high-end air-coolers seem to be closer in

thermal control than any single fan radiator AIO and usually same or less cost.

I agree with you, I'm basing what I said off my limited info because of things like: 

Best Type of CPU Cooler Final Answer Linus Tech Tips - http://youtu.be/u8HsjgtMzEg?t=12m11s

 

The link should start towards the end, but his readings show:

 

Cooler                            || Idle Amb || Load Amb ||   Idle   ||   Load   || Idle @20C || Load @20C

 

H100i                                    9.2              10            23          61             33.8              71.8

H80i                                    10.2              10            29          85             38.8              94.8

H80i push/pull                     10.5             10.8          26          75             35.5              84.5

Silver Arrow Extreme           11.1             11.1          26          67             34.9              75.9

 

Im not trying to claim any kind of extensive knowledge on the subject (and i don't benchmark), but this was his results.

Maybe i'm misreading it or he's doing something I don't understand, which could be the case i don't know.

 

Anyways, the main reason why I and many other people would and or did buy an H80i over an air cooler is because of space (and if you look carefully at the Linus video at 09:45, the Silver Arrow Extreme would not fit in that build if he tried to put the case wall on.)

I did not buy an air cooler because my RAM would not fit with one, but furthermore if you go with LP (Low Profile) RAM and an air cooler you are kinda screwed if a RAM card fails on you (I have had 2 fail on me in two different machines and that would suck if they were buried by an air rad).

 

I hope this isn't too "argue-y", i'm just goin off of stuff like this and would really like to know more, please correct me on anything I missed.

 

*EDIT: If you meant regular operation then yea his results show exactly what you're saying (which I agreed with you on), I'm sorry but I was thinking of under max load etc.

[airdeano]

I hope this isn't too "argue-y", i'm just goin off of stuff like this and would really like to know more, please correct me on anything I missed.

 

good info, and his info was removed form the H220 redux, but i have never got

anywhere 10° drop in temperatures with any push/pull, usually 3°-5° at best.

but i can attest to the excessively high temperature reports on single fan and that

is not excusable for that cost v performance. is which why i do not recommend

single fan AIO.

[Godsmack]

but i can attest to the excessively high temperature reports on single fan and that

is not excusable for that cost v performance. is which why i do not recommend

single fan AIO.

that's fair, but again it comes down to a space issue, those air coolers are just too large for many motherboards (RAM slots), and a few cases.  I wanted to put a Noctua NH-D14 on my new build, but I was not gonna sacrifice 1-2 of my ram slots for a "cost efficient air cooler", i don't benchmark or anything and the H80i does a good job.

 

The way I view AIO coolers is that they are simply a way of moving your cooling unit away from the motherboard either for space, or for aesthetics.

[Godsmack]

 

after watching that vid.... I want a H220

[airdeano]

after watching that vid.... I want a H220

 

do your review research here on the forums and let us know then.

[Shaneration]

well taking into consideration id like to OC at least a little and i dont know how far im pushing the voltage until i have the system built and tested with tempratures. and that fact the corsair 200r is not that big of a case i was thinking of getting water cooling specifially the corsair H series of some kind at this point in time i can only afford a H80i but im not buying that cooling solution till i have everything else for my build and fomr what you guys have said the h100i is alot better option however i dont think with the set up i have in mind id be able to fit the h100i so h80i is the only choice unless i modded the case whihc im not prepared to do or mounted it outside the case which wold look ugly and frankly would annoy me .

 

so h80i look like the best solution for now until i can upgrade to a larger case which i may do in the future. since im getting an amd cpu i herd alot of bad stuff about the noise and poor perfomance of there stock fans so i didnt even consider air.

but if someone knows of some benchmarks on a nice air solution that isnt Loud as hell then let me know ill defo consider it.

 

i was guna get the 8350 (4ghz) amd but i deicded to cut the price and the get the 8320 (3.5ghz) so i could spent alittle more and get a 760 instead of a 660. so OC would be nice so i could get a little higher clock out of the cpu.

[Godsmack]

well taking into consideration id like to OC at least a little and i dont know how far im pushing the voltage until i have the system built and tested with tempratures. and that fact the corsair 200r is not that big of a case i was thinking of getting water cooling specifially the corsair H series of some kind at this point in time i can only afford a H80i but im not buying that cooling solution till i have everything else for my build and fomr what you guys have said the h100i is alot better option however i dont think with the set up i have in mind id be able to fit the h100i so h80i is the only choice unless i modded the case whihc im not prepared to do or mounted it outside the case which wold look ugly and frankly would annoy me .

 

so h80i look like the best solution for now until i can upgrade to a larger case which i may do in the future. since im getting an amd cpu i herd alot of bad stuff about the noise and poor perfomance of there stock fans so i didnt even consider air.

but if someone knows of some benchmarks on a nice air solution that isnt Loud as hell then let me know ill defo consider it.

 

i was guna get the 8350 (4ghz) amd but i deicded to cut the price and the get the 8320 (3.5ghz) so i could spent alittle more and get a 760 instead of a 660. so OC would be nice so i could get a little higher clock out of the cpu.

*Im not an expert of anything computer related* but from everything i've read (and i spent some time reading this stuff) the H80i sounds like it will be fine for you, because you sound like you use your pc the same way i use mine and our specs are fairly similar.  if you weren't OC'ing at all the stock cooler might be enough, if you are mild'ly OC'ing and then just playing a game on it the H80i should be fine.  Just check your temps and you'll be good.

 

*please correct me if i said something incorrect here*

[Shaneration]

thanks for all you rinput everyone, ill go with the h80i