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What change would you make for each:
1.       Increase performance
2.       Reduce cost
3.       Prevent bottlenecks
 

1. Budget & Location

$US - USA $800 - $1,200

2. Aim

Casual gaming

little video editing

little bit of TV recording

Picture storage (may do 2 drive mirrored)

 

I don't like tempered glass/ clear cases. I LOVE MY ANTEC ONE-but it is not for sale

Prefer extra drive bays

Preference to Intel because some games (Factorio) have weird issues with AMD.

Current system has 24 GB ram- don't really want to decrease.

 

3. Monitors

Start with 2 and add 3 soon

4. Peripherals

I have a keyboard

want to add a mouse

5. Why are you upgrading?

Current computer (i7 990X) is great except for drive space. I will cycle mine to my son, his is really slow.

Since i am buying a drive I want to 'do it right' and go NVME not slow Sata

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $229.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $36.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $125.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $109.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $169.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $79.99 @ Adorama
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $79.99 @ Adorama
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3 GB SC GAMING Video Card $173.98 @ Newegg
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $74.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $81.98 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $144.99 @ B&H
Mouse MSI INTERCEPTOR DS200 Wired Laser Mouse $34.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1383.85
  Mail-in rebates -$40.00
  Total $1343.85
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 21:15 EST-0500  

 

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1. I play factorio just fine with an AMD processor. Plus intel is incomparable to AMD in a performance per dollar benchmark.

2. Why do you NEED 24+ GB of memory? Is a little bit of video editing a lot?

3. NVMe isn't utilized in most cases. Plan on moving big files around? No? Sata drives are fine.

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $234.37 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard $119.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $67.98 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $169.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate 4 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive $137.99 @ Newegg
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Video Card $439.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $129.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1390.20
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-08 01:32 EST-0500  

 

Edited by SavageNeo
Removed case and rgb things

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Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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Make sure to bios update

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Main PC:

Spoiler

|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

Spoiler

| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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Assuming these are all needs, here's a much cheaper and better system.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $102.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $63.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $413.98 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $84.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $74.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1139.91
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-08 01:51 EST-0500  

 

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36 minutes ago, Slottr said:

1. I play factorio just fine with an AMD processor. Plus intel is incomparable to AMD in a performance per dollar benchmark.

2. Why do you NEED 24+ GB of memory? Is a little bit of video editing a lot?

3. NVMe isn't utilized in most cases. Plan on moving big files around? No? SATA drives are fine.

Your reply is amazing!  

my current computer system I7-990X with 24 gigs of RAM and works well. and I feel like I have to get a better performing system if I'm going to be spending money.

Ie. the NVME drive and staying with 24 gigs of RAM

 

This is the fifth or sixth build I've done for this project. And the first couple were AMD builds because of the performance per dollar advantage. I had a co-worker tell me that there's driver hiccup some game inconsistencies with AMD. I don't want to be rushing around trying to troubleshoot weird issues.

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21 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Assuming these are all needs, here's a much cheaper and better system.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $102.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $63.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card $413.98 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $84.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $74.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1139.91
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-08 01:51 EST-0500  

 

Thank you for building that out.

 

My current OS Drive is 500 gigs and feels small so I'm inclined to go with a 1 terabyte nvme.

 

I Have  more confidence in Samsung ssds but maybe unwarranted and I should just go with the HP

 

I was avoiding the meshify because of the tempered glass side panel #3 kids under 6 years old

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7 minutes ago, DNA3e8 said:

I had a co-worker tell me that there's driver hiccup some game inconsistencies with AMD.

CPUs dont use drivers.....

 

also, i suggest going with @Slottr build, its more or less as good as you will get outside of some tweaks that will make it different, but not really better. 

 

 

edit: also i dont know why people kept the G3 PSU in there, as its fairly wellknown on this forum that the PSU has issues. 

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3 minutes ago, DNA3e8 said:

Thank you for building that out.

 

My current OS Drive is 500 gigs and feels small so I'm inclined to go with a 1 terabyte nvme.

 

Haven't been more confidence in Samsung ssds but maybe unwarranted and I should just go with the HP

 

I was avoiding the meshify because of the tempered glass side panel #3 kids under 6 years old

pretty sure the meshify C has one without a glass panel, if not the define C has one without it.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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4 minutes ago, DNA3e8 said:

Thank you for building that out.

 

My current OS Drive is 500 gigs and feels small so I'm inclined to go with a 1 terabyte nvme.

 

Haven't been more confidence in Samsung ssds but maybe unwarranted and I should just go with the HP

 

I was avoiding the meshify because of the tempered glass side panel #3 kids under 6 years old

Fair for the SSD size. The 920 has a cheap 1TB version as well.

 

The meshify C has many options, this one does not have a glass panel.

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9 minutes ago, DNA3e8 said:

Your reply is amazing!  

my current computer system I7-990X with 24 gigs of RAM and works well. and I feel like I have to get a better performing system if I'm going to be spending money.

Ie. the NVME drive and staying with 24 gigs of RAM

 

This is the fifth or sixth build I've done for this project. And the first couple were AMD builds because of the performance per dollar advantage. I had a co-worker tell me that there's driver hiccup some game inconsistencies with AMD. I don't want to be rushing around trying to troubleshoot weird issues.

for the last 7 years having 2 generations of AMD CPU, i haven't had any problems with gaming.

Just look at troubleshooting forum, Intel has equal problems. It doesnt have anything to do with the platfrom, but mostly with the complete system.

 

Updating from a 1st gen intel to current gen Intel/AMD would massively boost the game performance.

Ryzen 5700g @ 4.4ghz all cores | Asrock B550M Steel Legend | 3060 | 2x 16gb Micron E 2666 @ 4200mhz cl16 | 500gb WD SN750 | 12 TB HDD | Deepcool Gammax 400 w/ 2 delta 4000rpm push pull | Antec Neo Eco Zen 500w

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How can i verify this board will not need a BIOS update:

 

Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

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7 minutes ago, DNA3e8 said:

How can i verify this board will not need a BIOS update:

 

Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

ignore the warning on MSI MAX boards.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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Sleeping on a few tweeks:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $194.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $102.99 @ Newegg
Storage HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $114.97 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $79.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $79.99 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3 GB SC GAMING Video Card $173.98 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $84.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $74.98 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $144.99 @ B&H
Mouse MSI INTERCEPTOR DS200 Wired Laser Mouse $34.99 @ Amazon
Speakers Logitech S-150 1.2 W 2.0 Channel Speakers $11.95 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1232.81
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1212.81
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-09 02:01 EST-0500  

 

Thank you for all your help!

 

** Video card choice is because I already have it.

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What are your thoughts on DDR4 3000 vs. PC 3200 RAM?

 

Would there be a noticeable performance difference? Or just better benchmarks?

 

 

Factorio, Davinci resolve missed Minecraft

 

 

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8 minutes ago, DNA3e8 said:

What are your thoughts on DDR4 3000 vs. PC 3200 RAM?

 

Would there be a noticeable performance difference? Or just better benchmarks?

 

 

Factorio, Davinci resolve missed Minecraft

 

 

3000 vs 3200 ram in gaming is no noticeable different. In productivity is a tiny bit different. I would go with 3200mhz if price between 3000mhz and 3200mhz no huge different just because Ryzen loves fast ram.

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