Shadowplay has bad quality?

[Wafaduck]

Why does my shadowplay have bad quality? It's recorded at 1920x1080 60fps, 50mbps. Rendered it at premier pro. edited at AE.

 

Video Link : 

PS The screenshot is already 1920x1080. I have an rtx 2060

 

[Streetguru]

18 minutes ago, Wafaduck said:

 

You're overloading the encoder with that quality settings

 

just change it to more like 12Mbps

 

also limit your fps in game so there's less stress on your GPU.

[APasz]

33 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

You're overloading the encoder with that quality settings

 

just change it to more like 12Mbps

 

also limit your fps in game so there's less stress on your GPU.

It's not overloading the encoder. Even the encoder on the my 980ti can handle 3440x1440@130mps. Which is two gen behind the RTX 2000 series.

 

 

It shouldn't look that bad. Have you reinstalled driver/GFX?

Also youtube has brutal compression so upscaling helps.

 

Edit: What are you recording to? That makes the biggest difference apart from the CPU not being pegged at 100%.

[Mark Kaine]

If your system doesn't have enough headroom for recording at hi quality shadow play will automatically lower the quality of your recordings in order to still let you enjoy fluent gameplay - and also make your videos not lag. 

 

50mbps is way too high unless you have a super duper hi end rig (which you don't,  just checked) 

 

I  have a gtx 1060 and can get by using 30mbps in some games,  20mbps is more on the safe side however,  everything around 15mbps has pretty awful quality tho so I obviously try to avoid going too low. 

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, APasz said:

3440x1440@130mps

In Shadowplay or OBS? Are you sure that isn't 130kbps? That seems like extreme overkill, and I feel like there's a hidden cut off in software preventing you from actually do 130mbps.

My 4K footage looks fine even at 30mbps

[APasz]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

In Shadowplay or OBS? Are you sure that isn't 130kbps? That seems like extreme overkill, and I feel like there's a hidden cut off in software preventing you from actually do 130mbps.

My 4K footage looks fine even at 30mbps

Yes I'm sure. Though it does fluctuate between 100 and 130 on a per video basis.

 

 

[Wafaduck]

My Specs are as follows:

 

RTX 2060

Ryzen 5 3600

16gb of 3200 mhz ddr4

 

I limited my FPS to 144  when I recorded that.

The game i'm playing is called Destiny 2

[Wafaduck]

1 hour ago, APasz said:

It's not overloading the encoder. Even the encoder on the my 980ti can handle 3440x1440@130mps. Which is two gen behind the RTX 2000 series.

 

 

It shouldn't look that bad. Have you reinstalled driver/GFX?

Also youtube has brutal compression so upscaling helps.

 

Edit: What are you recording to? That makes the biggest difference apart from the CPU not being pegged at 100%.

I believe there's a new update for my GPU. Should I update to it and see if it would improve?

[APasz]

Yeah.

[Streetguru]

18 minutes ago, Wafaduck said:

My Specs are as follows:

Are you recording to an SSD or a Hard Drive

 

[Mark Kaine]

Check your GPU usage, if it's 100% it's very unlikely you can record at those extremely high bitrates, no driver update will change that.

 

 

I also don't really understand,  YouTube has very strict restrictions for bitrates and they are much much lower than what you're recording at, so compression would actually make it worse.  Anyway I doubt anyone would actually see a difference between 130 and say 60 mbps. 

 

Either way,  check your GPU usage,  if it's 100% the case is closed simple as that as the encoder will not do it, you will need to lower the bitrates. 

[SkilledRebuilds]

For the OP

Adobe Premiere and AE Export Settings are what? (Details plz)

Datarate used? Video Format used?

Recording to HDD or SSD?

 

 

For the replies..

YT indeed has datarate profiles for each Res/FPS combo. It transcode your video after you upload it, giving it a 100Mbps sample and a 60Mbps sample for 4k60 makes a difference.

But won't translate at 1080p 60fps that well..

Giving YT more to work with has benefits for the transcode they do.

Finding a balance of file size vs quality is on you.

 

 

"Quality drops under GPU LOAD..."

GPU USAGE is ALWAYS (or 99% of the time)

at 100% when I'm recording..

That claim is false without specific proofs.

Spoiler

Its never happened to me (4 PCs) at all in any number of years recording..  My YT channel can show that..  I record at up to 110Mbps 4K (doesn't drop like You say it does When GPU is loaded) with a GTX1070 at full tilt all day..  It varies based on SCENE COMPLEXITY in regards to Datarates needed...not GPU LOAD.   I think whatever settings or drives people used... we're setup wrong, and if you make claims... provide examples of it lowering recording quality from being at 100% GPU LOAD.  Because that'd be widespread COMMON news if that's the case...it wouldn't go unnoticed.

 

[Mark Kaine]

19 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

100Mbps sample and a 60Mbps sample for 4k60 makes a difference.

YouTube restrictions are way lower than that.  Unless for super YouTubers they get of course better compression rates. 

Proof: I have eyes. 

 

 

Hint for the OP, here's the official YouTube settings for uploading videos,  I would recommend to follow them as closely you can,  your current settings are *way* too high. 

 

 

[APasz]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

YouTube restrictions are way lower than that.  Unless for super YouTubers they get of course better compression rates. 

Proof: I have eyes. 

Then you need to get your eyes checked mate.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en

[Wafaduck]

Here are the replies:

 

I'm saving it at my HDD

 

my GPU usage when recording is 30%. Doesnt exceed that.

 

Here are my render settings

[Wafaduck]

 

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

YouTube restrictions are way lower than that.  Unless for super YouTubers they get of course better compression rates. 

Proof: I have eyes. 

 

 

Hint for the OP, here's the official YouTube settings for uploading videos,  I would recommend to follow them as closely you can,  your current settings are *way* too high. 

 

 

 

This guy made a video that it's better if you use 70mbps for the bitrate so that when Youtube compresses it. The quality doesnt really go really low. I can't explain it that much but check it here

[Wafaduck]

Now i'm trying to record after updating my drivers. Here are the results. 

 

GOT WORSE.

[SkilledRebuilds]

OP. I'd be troubleshooting the GPU usages as my priority...not the recording issues yet..

If you have issues and you don't know it..

That could very well be affecting your results.

So nailing that out first. .would be ideal.

In regards to that. 

Do you have full GPU USAGE (not the 30%) in the same scene back to back without recording at all...?

Something is definitely holding your GPU back and curious if you have less than 97-100% GPU usage without recording?

 

 

Replies.

While my recording settings set are overkill for YouTube uploading direct... the 100Mbps quality is useful for editing quality prior to my final export.

That's why I use high datarate capturing.

For Adobe and BaseQuality, not YouTube.

I use 70Mbps for YouTube exports, and noticed the difference easily between that and 50Mbps sources after YT is done.

 

[Wafaduck]

8 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

OP. I'd be troubleshooting GPU usages as my priority...

Do you have full GPU USAGE (not the 30%) in the same scene back to back without recording at all...?

Something is definitely holding your GPU back...

 

 

Replies.

While my recording settings set are overkill for YouTube uploading direct... the 100Mbps quality is useful for editing quality prior to my final export.

That's why I use high datarate capturing.

For Adobe and BaseQuality, not YouTube.

I use 70Mbps for YouTube exports, and noticed the difference easily between that and 50Mbps sources after YT is done.

 

My gpu usage without recording is 3-5 %

[SkilledRebuilds]

2 minutes ago, Wafaduck said:

My gpu usage without recording is 3-5 %

That's where troubleshooting must begin..

The recording is likely affected by whatever issue was there causing this behaviour.

 

[Wafaduck]

4 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

That's where troubleshooting must begin..

The recording is likely affected by whatever issue was there causing this behaviour.

 

So that's probably why my quality is really low? Which is odd

[SkilledRebuilds]

46 minutes ago, Wafaduck said:

So that's probably why my quality is really low? Which is odd

Not in the specific case of your PC seemingly already had issues...

 

(See here)

 

On 7/28/2019 at 2:43 PM, krysta24 said:

Now we can move from there. Do you have latest BIOS? Is your RAM included in support list (you're using uncommon brand, going for something more mainstream would be preferable)? If so, does it pass memtest? Are temperatures OK (meaning have you seated cooler properly)? Can you try different PSU? (Preferably quality one)

This last post in that thread.

I'd be sussing your motherboard back to defaults and start over...

[Wafaduck]

30 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Not in the specific case of your PC seemingly already had issues...

 

(See here)

 

This last post in that thread.

I'd be sussing your motherboard back to defaults and start over...

The reason why it crashed was because I was using a pirated version of windows. (idek why the one who build it installed it) till he told me and I payed for real windows and it got fixed. Mobo isnt the issue